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[the preacher]

Hi guys

dose any one have 16inch wheels on the front of there chimaera
because having trouble getting tyres for the front with 15inch.
If any one has got 16s on the front would you recommend if so have you had any problem


Declan

Edited by the preacher on Thursday 31st January 21:19

Edited by the preacher on Thursday 31st January 22:50

[V8 GRF]

I've got 16" Estorils on my Griff (ie rear ones). Vast improvement in roadholding, much more 'planted' and would recommend some Steve Heath droplinks as well.

Only needed a couple of spacers on the rack to stop the wheels fouling on full lock.

[glow worm]

I thought the offsets were different front & rear????

[rev-erend]

I thought Griffs and Chims without power steering had 15 ich and those with PS have 16 inch.. if so you just need front wheels off a car with PS.

[coetzeeh]

I also have the 16" estorils on the front of my griff, as did the last 100 LE/SE's.

Steering is no heavier than before, tyre choices become a lot easier and simpler, and as V8GRF said small spacer needed to avoid fouling against chassis.

[glow worm]

I had PS on my Chim and 15" fronts 16" rear...I think TVR starting with 16" wheels (in about 2002) on the fronts because of the scarcity/lack of competive prices on 15" tyres..I thought biggest benefit of fitting 16" was to allow you to fit upgrade front brakes (4 pot)

[LordGrover]

rev-erend said:

I thought Griffs and Chims without power steering had 15 ich and those with PS have 16 inch.. if so you just need front wheels off a car with PS.

Nope. Not heard that one before. 15" front, 16" rear was standard on all until very late models, not sure when.

[97octane]

coetzeeh said:

I also have the 16" estorils on the front of my griff, as did the last 100 LE/SE's.

Steering is no heavier than before, tyre choices become a lot easier and simpler, and as V8GRF said small spacer needed to avoid fouling against chassis.

+1

You can actually get matching front and rear tyres AND no problems with the speed rating (Toyo 15" are only V rated)

[V8 GRF]

LordGrover said:

rev-erend said:

I thought Griffs and Chims without power steering had 15 ich and those with PS have 16 inch.. if so you just need front wheels off a car with PS.

Nope. Not heard that one before. 15" front, 16" rear was standard on all until very late models, not sure when.

It was only the last 100 that had 16" fronts as standard.

[rev-erend]

V8 GRF said:

LordGrover said:

rev-erend said:

I thought Griffs and Chims without power steering had 15 ich and those with PS have 16 inch.. if so you just need front wheels off a car with PS.

Nope. Not heard that one before. 15" front, 16" rear was standard on all until very late models, not sure when.

It was only the last 100 that had 16" fronts as standard.

Looks like you are right - as the car has Estorils ..

[The AJP Griff]

glow worm said:

I thought the offsets were different front & rear????

They are.The fronts are ET25 and the rears ET32.I would put a 7mm spacer on with the 16" wheels if fitting to the front,that way you wont need stops on the rack,reducing the turning circle.I'm assuming though that if fitted with a 7mm spacer,there will still be enough thread left(im not sure how much the wheelnut recess in the casting varies from the ET25 to ET32 wheels,if at all.
I fitted 17x8" rims on the front of mine,with the std ET25 offset,and had no clearance probs at all,and no need for stops on the rack.

[Seasider]

3mm spacers are enough on 16" Estorils

[glow worm]

So did TVR send out cars with spacers fitted as standard???.....that's poor
Find it hard to believe.

Edited by glow worm on Friday 1st February 14:03

[Seasider]

glow worm said:

So did TVR send out cars with spacers fitted as standard???.....that's poor
Find it hard to believe.

Edited by glow worm on Friday 1st February 14:03

Think they had rack stops but not sure...

[glow worm]

More inclined to think people are fitting rears wheels instead of 16" fronts (which are probably rare), hence the spacer....Don't know, just a guess.

[dickkark]

did this after bending a 15" wheel and bought two 16" wheels from peninsula tvr and they supplied nylon spacers for the rack making the crappy lock even crappier!
BTW I have a very good 15" wheel going free if anyone wants it.

[the preacher]

(v8 grf)the last 100 what year would that be because we got a 2001 (500)


declan

[LordGrover]

dickkark said:

did this after bending a 15" wheel and bought two 16" wheels from peninsula tvr and they supplied nylon spacers for the rack making the crappy lock even crappier!
BTW I have a very good 15" wheel going free if anyone wants it.

YHM

[Guillotine]

97octane said:

coetzeeh said:

I also have the 16" estorils on the front of my griff, as did the last 100 LE/SE's.

Steering is no heavier than before, tyre choices become a lot easier and simpler, and as V8GRF said small spacer needed to avoid fouling against chassis.

+1

You can actually get matching front and rear tyres AND no problems with the speed rating (Toyo 15" are only V rated)

...which is fine with every Insurer we have delt with so far.
the V rating 149.1mph is twice the legal speed limit and is an actual speed as opposed to a promo listed max speed. Topping 149act in a std Griff/Chim takes some doing.
We have fitted many T1Rs to Griff/Chims with the blessing of their Insurers, but we do insist that you inform them. We have sadly had one Griff written off whilst on these tyres (not a factor) and the claim had no problems.
Andy
tvrmonster.com (Toyo Dealer)

[97octane]

Guillotine said:

97octane said:

coetzeeh said:

I also have the 16" estorils on the front of my griff, as did the last 100 LE/SE's.

Steering is no heavier than before, tyre choices become a lot easier and simpler, and as V8GRF said small spacer needed to avoid fouling against chassis.

+1

You can actually get matching front and rear tyres AND no problems with the speed rating (Toyo 15" are only V rated)

...which is fine with every Insurer we have delt with so far.
the V rating 149.1mph is twice the legal speed limit and is an actual speed as opposed to a promo listed max speed. Topping 149act in a std Griff/Chim takes some doing.
We have fitted many T1Rs to Griff/Chims with the blessing of their Insurers, but we do insist that you inform them. We have sadly had one Griff written off whilst on these tyres (not a factor) and the claim had no problems.
Andy
tvrmonster.com (Toyo Dealer)

Andy,
I am sure this was asked before, but I can't remember if you contributed to the thread on "dangerous Toyos" and the currently running "mixing R888 and T1-Rs" thread on the Griff forum. What is your view on tyre pressures with the Toyos and mixing Toyos with bridgestones and the handling consequences?
For reference;

97octane said:

Toffer said:

Droptheclutch said:

Don't do it, plain and simple.

Two very different tyres with vastly different characteristics. Get a matching set, it is worth it.

It's the same with having Toyo T1S's on one axle and T1R's on another - don't do it. It makes for unpredictable handling, not something that's advised for quick cars.

Well I did do it on my Griff (T1S + T1R) and had to be patient whilst I found the tyre pressures that suited me best. I settled on 25F and 29R. Having spoken at length to TOYO UK, they said I would not have a problem mixing the two tyre types, but suggested that if the tyres were standard TOYO production types, that I should expect to have to run higher tyre pressures that with the original BRIDGESTONE Expedia S02 tyres, because of the softer TOYO sidewalls. The other thing the TOYO guy told me was that the standard production TOYO T1S and T1R tyres had a "single layer sidewall", whereas those TOYO tyres marked with the TVR logo were produced to meet TVR special requirements and were manufactured with a "double layer sidewall", making them stiffer through corners and also requiring lower air pressure than the standard TOYO tyre types. I apologise for the long-winded reply but thought that this information may be interesting for some TVR owners and also account for the dramatic differences you read about drivers' experiences of TOYO tyres?

That is interesting, because when I went to see my tyre guy, he suggested bumping the pressures up in the Toyos - an idea that wasn't popular in the "Dangerous Toyos" thread. I now keep the rears at 27psi and there is a slight improvement, so I might consider going up a bit more. I think that once I have Toyos front and back and at slightly higher pressures than we were used to with SO2/3s, my problems may ease

In essence, will ridding myself of the SO3s at the front, putting on matching Toyos and raising the pressures solve my handling issues?

Edited by 97octane on Saturday 2nd February 18:47