RE: Engine talk

Monday 18th June 2007

Engine talk

Al Melling talks about the TVR engines


Melling will talk about AJP and S6
Melling will talk about AJP and S6
Al Melling, the founder of engine design consultancy 'MCD' and the designer of the TVR AJP8 and Speed Six engines, will be presenting a seminar to TVRCC members and TVR enthusiasts on his work entitled “The AJP and Speed Six Engines”.

The seminar will take place at Rockingham Motor Speedway on Friday 3rd August commencing at 0930. The event precedes the ‘Diamond Rock’ celebrations the club is holding to mark the 60th anniversary of TVR at the venue over the weekend.

Tickets, which include a buffet lunch and all refreshments throughout the day, can be obtained by visiting the TVR Car Club website or going direct to the Seminar page – both of which are given below.

The club is keen to stress that the seminar is open to all TVR enthusiasts, and not just TVR Car Club members.

www.tvrcc.com

http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/future_events_seminar07.asp

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Caddyshack

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

213 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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I wonder if he will explain why so many of them blew up? My Speed six came back from the Factory after the Flywheel fell off with "Piston Slap" written on the rocker cover in black pen...and then blew up!

T5SOR

2,003 posts

232 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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The same as his AutoCraft talk, in Salisbury last year? scratchchin

Steve-B

752 posts

289 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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it's a VeryGoodThing i now live in Oz, i don't think he'd want me at his little love-fest. having had 3 of his SpeedSix engines blow up in 13 months, we lost £ 15K in value "dumping" our beloved Cerbie.

perhaps i'll come to the event, if he's willing to pay me the £15K i lost on his rubbish engine. perhaps he'd be willing to explain the new warranties to protect SpeedSix engines from long-term failure that TVR forecourts were unveiling as well whilst he's at it.

bitter, never!

griffsmith

331 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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I think you guys need to read the interview with him in this months Sprint. Although I know there's always two sides to every story, it sheds some light on the matter for me..

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

249 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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griffsmith said:
I think you guys need to read the interview with him in this months Sprint. Although I know there's always two sides to every story, it sheds some light on the matter for me..
Indeed. Interesting to learn that he had absolutely nothing to do with the Speed Six engine. Delivered a handful of absolutely perfect AJP6s to TVR who then very deviously re-jigged them to change enough of the design to not have to pay AM any royalties.

It was these changes that caused every single problem we have all suffered.

All 100% down to the ruthless incompetance of TVR's engine engineers.

I'm pretty sure that Al Melling is the Second Coming. Surely, we have not seen such greatness since Our Lord Jesus Christ walked the Earth.

Hopefully, we'll get a follow up interview from the dishonest and incompetant TVR engineers who are soley responsible for the collapse of not just TVR but also have been linked to Global Warming and who allegedly held John McCarthey hostage during the 80s in a small box behind the paint oven.

Maybe we could also have an interview with AutoCraft, Power and Austec about how they have strived to overcome the evil engineers and bring AM's vision back to us poor desciples. Although, AutoCraft would probably accuse the others of taking all the Custard Creams.

Trenchtown

147 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Horse_Apple said:
Indeed. Interesting to learn that he had absolutely nothing to do with the Speed Six engine. Delivered a handful of absolutely perfect AJP6s to TVR who then very deviously re-jigged them to change enough of the design to not have to pay AM any royalties.

It was these changes that caused every single problem we have all suffered.

All 100% down to the ruthless incompetance of TVR's engine engineers.

I'm pretty sure that Al Melling is the Second Coming. Surely, we have not seen such greatness since Our Lord Jesus Christ walked the Earth.

Hopefully, we'll get a follow up interview from the dishonest and incompetant TVR engineers who are soley responsible for the collapse of not just TVR but also have been linked to Global Warming and who allegedly held John McCarthey hostage during the 80s in a small box behind the paint oven.

Maybe we could also have an interview with AutoCraft, Power and Austec about how they have strived to overcome the evil engineers and bring AM's vision back to us poor desciples. Although, AutoCraft would probably accuse the others of taking all the Custard Creams.
You forgot the Titanic. The evil engineers sank the Titanic too!

And they killed Kenny...


Marki

15,763 posts

277 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Celebrating 60 years of TVR scratchchin hows that then

SS HSV

9,643 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Al Melling is a God yes

He is the purest form of engineer and knows his onions. Creator of the F1 V10 Lola



Designer of the AJP8



Designer of the engine used in the Hellcat...



With its:

Engine: 6.0 litre v10
Induction: 4 turbos
Intake Cooling: 2 intercoolers
Power: 1175 bhp
Torque: 880 lb•ft

Read if for yourselves.

http://www.mcdeng.co.uk/html/profile.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Melling

trackcar

6,453 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Horse_Apple said:
griffsmith said:
I think you guys need to read the interview with him in this months Sprint. Although I know there's always two sides to every story, it sheds some light on the matter for me..
Indeed. Interesting to learn that he had absolutely nothing to do with the Speed Six engine. Delivered a handful of absolutely perfect AJP6s to TVR who then very deviously re-jigged them to change enough of the design to not have to pay AM any royalties.

It was these changes that caused every single problem we have all suffered.

All 100% down to the ruthless incompetance of TVR's engine engineers.

I'm pretty sure that Al Melling is the Second Coming. Surely, we have not seen such greatness since Our Lord Jesus Christ walked the Earth.

Hopefully, we'll get a follow up interview from the dishonest and incompetant TVR engineers who are soley responsible for the collapse of not just TVR but also have been linked to Global Warming and who allegedly held John McCarthey hostage during the 80s in a small box behind the paint oven.

Maybe we could also have an interview with AutoCraft, Power and Austec about how they have strived to overcome the evil engineers and bring AM's vision back to us poor desciples. Although, AutoCraft would probably accuse the others of taking all the Custard Creams.
This is a bit unfair .. I don't think either side is whiter than white, but there does seem to be an element of "change for change's sake" in the TVR version ...

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

249 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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trackcar said:
Horse_Apple said:
griffsmith said:
I think you guys need to read the interview with him in this months Sprint. Although I know there's always two sides to every story, it sheds some light on the matter for me..
Indeed. Interesting to learn that he had absolutely nothing to do with the Speed Six engine. Delivered a handful of absolutely perfect AJP6s to TVR who then very deviously re-jigged them to change enough of the design to not have to pay AM any royalties.

It was these changes that caused every single problem we have all suffered.

All 100% down to the ruthless incompetance of TVR's engine engineers.

I'm pretty sure that Al Melling is the Second Coming. Surely, we have not seen such greatness since Our Lord Jesus Christ walked the Earth.

Hopefully, we'll get a follow up interview from the dishonest and incompetant TVR engineers who are soley responsible for the collapse of not just TVR but also have been linked to Global Warming and who allegedly held John McCarthey hostage during the 80s in a small box behind the paint oven.

Maybe we could also have an interview with AutoCraft, Power and Austec about how they have strived to overcome the evil engineers and bring AM's vision back to us poor desciples. Although, AutoCraft would probably accuse the others of taking all the Custard Creams.
This is a bit unfair .. I don't think either side is whiter than white,
That's what I was alluding too. The whole saga is basically one big cluster f$ck of arrogance, egos, stupidity, ignorance, incompetance, dishonesty, limp wristedness, and probably inbreeding (lots of Northerners involved biggrin) from every single direction.

Still, put it altogether and it produced some wonderful cars. That's the British for you. wink

JR

12,746 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Horse_Apple said:
The whole saga is basically one big cluster f$ck of arrogance, egos, stupidity, ignorance, incompetance, dishonesty, limp wristedness, and probably inbreeding (lots of Northerners involved biggrin) from every single direction.
And that's from a broker. Glad you're not on the bench.

ro_butler

795 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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SS HSV said:
Al Melling is a God yes

He is the purest form of engineer and knows his onions. Creator of the F1 V10 Lola

This never went anywhere.

SS HSV said:
Designer of the engine used in the Hellcat...

With its:

Engine: 6.0 litre v10
Induction: 4 turbos
Intake Cooling: 2 intercoolers
Power: 1175 bhp
Torque: 880 lb•ft
This hasn't done anything yet, either.....

SS HSV said:
Just lots of garbage self-promotion as far as I can see.

Al Melling may be great but I've yet to see any real evidence on this site.

JR

12,746 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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ro_butler said:
Al Melling may be great but I've yet to see any real evidence on this site.
What about the engine in your car?

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

249 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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JR said:
Horse_Apple said:
The whole saga is basically one big cluster f$ck of arrogance, egos, stupidity, ignorance, incompetance, dishonesty, limp wristedness, and probably inbreeding (lots of Northerners involved biggrin) from every single direction.
And that's from a broker.
rofl

They'd probably all make a fortune over here. wink

donatien

1,113 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Caddyshack said:
I wonder if he will explain why so many of them blew up? My Speed six came back from the Factory after the Flywheel fell off with "Piston Slap" written on the rocker cover in black pen...and then blew up!
Have you got some old Lego lying about? you can use one of the big truck wheels as a new flywheel (take the tyre off if you want to lighten it more)

Whilst you're at it, try some of those 6x1 bricks as new finger followers; they might be made of tougher stuff than the originals.

I am kidding of course wink

bosscerbera

8,188 posts

250 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Horse_Apple said:
The whole saga is basically one big cluster f$ck of arrogance, egos, stupidity, ignorance, incompetance, dishonesty, limp wristedness ... from every single direction.
yes That is absolutely the sum of it. I am however looking forward to Melling taking to the stage to give us another serving of the same.

If you're reading this Mr M, or having it reported to you, the offer/request remains: sell or loan me one of your perfect AJP6s. Cash waiting. I'm afraid until I get to see your claims of AJP6 superiority realised I remain completely and utterly unconvinced. See you in August.

LordGrover

33,703 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Hmmm... 200 seats @ £19/21 each for a discussion ~ £4,000.
Seems a bit steep for tea/coffee & buffet. It's not enough to make anyone rich, so clearly not being done for the money but more than I'm willing to pay. Let's hope the write-up in Sprint is comprehensive.

JR

12,746 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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bosscerbera said:
If you're reading this Mr M, or having it reported to you, the offer/request remains: sell or loan me one of your perfect AJP6s. Cash waiting. I'm afraid until I get to see your claims of AJP6 superiority realised I remain completely and utterly unconvinced. See you in August.
I'm sure that he'd be delighted to do that as long as you sort out the legal issues first. Then you'd have to fund the final development and the production of the engine castings. I hope that you have deep pockets since you're likely to be the only customer. lol

TVRCC PR

127 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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LordGrover said:
Hmmm... 200 seats @ £19/21 each for a discussion ~ £4,000.
Seems a bit steep for tea/coffee & buffet. It's not enough to make anyone rich, so clearly not being done for the money but more than I'm willing to pay. Let's hope the write-up in Sprint is comprehensive.
It's at cost for non-members and subsidised for members. The TVRCC is making no money from this at all.

wedgeman

1,326 posts

250 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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LordGrover said:
Hmmm... 200 seats @ £19/21 each for a discussion ~ £4,000.
Seems a bit steep for tea/coffee & buffet. It's not enough to make anyone rich, so clearly not being done for the money but more than I'm willing to pay. Let's hope the write-up in Sprint is comprehensive.
rolleyes