About the TVR trademark...
About the TVR trademark...
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purpletvr

Original Poster:

201 posts

240 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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http://news.independent.co.uk/busines

Have a look at this.....

Hughesie II

12,790 posts

312 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Good news !!

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Sounds clumsy .. to have lost something so valuable .. so easily.

RichardD

3,608 posts

275 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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What about the actual cars themselves and the SP6 engine (the work Ricardo have been doing) ?

Am not sure about the last paragraph of that article, implies the possibility of having something badged TVR made in the same factory as the Roewoeoeor (Chinese Rover however it spelt hehe) 750 eek

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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I don't fancy a cheap asian built TVR

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

273 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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KirstM said:
I don't fancy a cheap asian built TVR

It won't happen.

5yearstobuyatvr

788 posts

249 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Tata Tvr? Dont think so! However it could be their contibution in reducing the Co2 ,their churning out.


Edited by 5yearstobuyatvr on Monday 5th February 13:04

Crazynick

484 posts

244 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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The first TVR's from Malaysia came back with brake pads the wrong way round etc, and one had the steering column break off while 'SUNBED' (where is He now?) was test driving.

The Chinese however are very good at creating vehicluar contaptions and finding unique ways around things. The problem is they cut corners to save money in their own market.
THE WORLD market is a different ball game, and they NOW want part of it, hence the Rover thing.
With a car produced in Asia with the right management, you could really do it...Competitively.., Don't WRITE OFF this idea.
And, you could assemble the cars in the UK too, so that it is British 'BUILT'.

I think this could really work and save the brand from extinction!

Uh oh, here come the firing squad.

bennno

15,256 posts

299 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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KirstM said:
I don't fancy a cheap asian built TVR


Given some of the best made cars in the world emerge from these markets I dont see the geography as being the issue. If the cost of labour redically reduces the sale price then this might be beneficial also.

Bennno

steve-p

1,448 posts

312 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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BossCerbera said:
KirstM said:
I don't fancy a cheap asian built TVR

It won't happen.

It could. Kia bought the rights to the horrible '90s Lotus Elan and built it for two years.

Crazynick

484 posts

244 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Regarding the ELAN
The problem is that they did not develop the Elan, and they did not understand it as they cannot sell low-volume cars in their market.
IMO, that car was a Lemon anyway!
You do NOT see classic cars in Korea, the culture does not support preserving 'classics'
They think a classic car is a 1980 Hyundaia Pony pick-up....I kid you not!


BossCerbera

8,188 posts

273 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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steve-p said:
BossCerbera said:
KirstM said:
I don't fancy a cheap asian built TVR

It won't happen.
It could. Kia bought the rights to the horrible '90s Lotus Elan and built it for two years.

People should pay more heed to Max Attacker's posts about low volume production legislation and homologation. The 90s, that Lotus and the Koreans were not equivalent I'm afraid.

whatever

2,174 posts

300 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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purpletvr said:
http://news.independent.co.uk/busines

Have a look at this.....

Doesn't really say anything that couldn't be inferred from the advert last week though, unfortunately.

As has been noted elsewhere on PH, the trademark/IP ownership will probably be subject to some sort of litigation - after all, it's the only thing of value left.

The notion of making cars in asia is not unexpected, but hasn't been mentioned in any other sources (has it?), and there's not many details here either.

scotty1

477 posts

246 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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If this is all true then the Russian really has blown the best part of 40 million, ouch, someone has seriously cocked up on the trademark ownership......

I guess in this case "what goes around comes around" seems fitting...

gridgway

1,001 posts

275 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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maybe the trademark thing was deliberate part of a convoluted and devious plan to exit.

Mind you noone will buy the company if there is any hint of dispute over the IPR! As a purchaser you would normally get a warranty (the M&A kind) from the seller that the IPR is his to sell and you have somewhere to go should that not be the case (back to the seller for reparations). With a company in liquidation there would be no such thing.

Has anyone worked out who owns the company that's in liquidation?

Graham

zooooom

1,310 posts

290 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Think I will place my bid with the administrators tomorrow on the presidence that i will bring TVR back to its rightfull home, cant do no worse than the last so called russian millionare business man.
Now were did i put my piggy bank hehe

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

273 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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gridgway said:
maybe the trademark thing was deliberate part of a convoluted and devious plan to exit.

No, it was a fu©k up. Even without mystic powers, I could see what has happened happening back in 2005.

This is what Smolenski SHOULD have done when he bought the company IMHO: separated the IP from the operations and maybe (but not necessarily) further split operations into maybe manufacturing on one hand and development/motorsport on the other. The latter to explore the tax breaks available for R&D and in particular motorsport R&D. Furthermore, an IP/trademark audit to register and schedule these assets should have been done at the beginning. Such a move might have been regarded as "devious" - in actual fact it would have been shrewd and sensible given the obvious need to invest in improving the product, to streamline manufacturing and to exploit the potential licencing opportunities of the TVR brand.

In this day and age, securing ownership of one's intellectual property is essential. Oh well Nikolai, look at this way: "You don't lose money, you buy experience."

zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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rev-erend said:
Sounds clumsy .. to have lost something so valuable .. so easily.


Happened with the BMW/VW/Rolls/Bentley debacle too, don't forget.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

273 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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zumbruk said:
rev-erend said:
Sounds clumsy .. to have lost something so valuable .. so easily.
Happened with the BMW/VW/Rolls/Bentley debacle too, don't forget.

Nik "the Greek" was still at school then.

bennno

15,256 posts

299 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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i think hes probably planning to open a can of whoopass on his detractors on this thread....i think whoopass is russian for polonium

Bennno