Thinking of buying a Sagaris
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Hey there guys. Just looking for some advice.
Got a fiat coupe turbo at the moment which is modded to around 320-340bhp (at the fly) which is 291 at the wheels.
Its fun owning one but want something exclusive and very quick and unique looking and saw the sagaris.
Now i've spent a fortune on my coupe, so need to wait till that dies down a bit, but my question is this.
Is it really expensive to keep a TVR on the road? Been talking to some dealers and TVR engineers and prices of around 2k a year just on services are being thrown up... thats not including tyres or bearings and the likes.
Is it expensive or is it the same with other cars, that there are myths? With the coupe its £1200 to change a cambelt, but a specialist can do it for £400. Is it something similar in the TVR world?
Ross
Got a fiat coupe turbo at the moment which is modded to around 320-340bhp (at the fly) which is 291 at the wheels.
Its fun owning one but want something exclusive and very quick and unique looking and saw the sagaris.
Now i've spent a fortune on my coupe, so need to wait till that dies down a bit, but my question is this.
Is it really expensive to keep a TVR on the road? Been talking to some dealers and TVR engineers and prices of around 2k a year just on services are being thrown up... thats not including tyres or bearings and the likes.
Is it expensive or is it the same with other cars, that there are myths? With the coupe its £1200 to change a cambelt, but a specialist can do it for £400. Is it something similar in the TVR world?
Ross
TVRs can cost between £1K and £6K a year to run. The avg for a cerb is £3K pa via indies. I am only talking servicing and repairs. If you have a warranted Sagaris (albeit there is some doubt about warantees at present whilst factory. TVR etc future is all over the place) and you just want to service it and a warantee pays for everything else then you are looking at £2K a year if you do 12K miles. That is a bare min. You could knock 25% off if you used an indie but then you might have a few issues with the warranty (and I know legally you should be able to use an indie BUT again with all the uncertainty a dealer might be better for claiming). IF you dont have a waranty then I would allow £3K pa. If you half the mileage then you might knock 30% of the cost off. All IMHO.
The sag is the best TVR made for reliability and handling. The only down side is some say the engine, but if you get a 55 plate or newer your getting the best they ever put together. You can check out the speed six forum and see for yourself, but you won't get a problem. If you look at the forum for sag prob's, you won't really see any. As for warranties some are being honoured and some not, who knows the warranties may just come up trumps.
h2ypr said:
Hey there guys. Just looking for some advice.
Got a fiat coupe turbo at the moment which is modded to around 320-340bhp (at the fly) which is 291 at the wheels.
Its fun owning one but want something exclusive and very quick and unique looking and saw the sagaris.
Now i've spent a fortune on my coupe, so need to wait till that dies down a bit, but my question is this.
Is it really expensive to keep a TVR on the road? Been talking to some dealers and TVR engineers and prices of around 2k a year just on services are being thrown up... thats not including tyres or bearings and the likes.
Is it expensive or is it the same with other cars, that there are myths? With the coupe its £1200 to change a cambelt, but a specialist can do it for £400. Is it something similar in the TVR world?
Ross
Got a fiat coupe turbo at the moment which is modded to around 320-340bhp (at the fly) which is 291 at the wheels.
Its fun owning one but want something exclusive and very quick and unique looking and saw the sagaris.
Now i've spent a fortune on my coupe, so need to wait till that dies down a bit, but my question is this.
Is it really expensive to keep a TVR on the road? Been talking to some dealers and TVR engineers and prices of around 2k a year just on services are being thrown up... thats not including tyres or bearings and the likes.
Is it expensive or is it the same with other cars, that there are myths? With the coupe its £1200 to change a cambelt, but a specialist can do it for £400. Is it something similar in the TVR world?
Ross
No its not so bad. 12000 miles should equate to around £2500. Sevicing around £1800, the balance between tyres and brakes.
Disasters dont come cheap with any car so I cant comment, other than to say I wouldn't know what a disaster would cost with a TVR......... never having had any
in my honest experience my sagaris was very inexpensive to run. Only the 6000 mile service was a little pricey at around £800 from memory, from a main dealer. An indie would surely undercut this but there may be factory warranty issues if you go down that route, which is itself another issue.
In 8500 miles the tyres were nowhere near needing changing so that represents good durability given how good the tyre performed. Must be down to the car's light weight. My car also spent a few days at the nurburgring and did a track day at Oulton park by the way. Fuel economy is surprisingly good too, the car is easily capable of returning high 20's mpg. The first service at the main dealer was a few hundred quid but everything else was covered and paid for in full by the factory warranty. So not including petrol my Saggy cost me well under £1500 over two years.
There aren't many cars of its performance that can be run so cheaply. The only issue is the warranty but you can get your own taken out if things don't improve on that front.
In 8500 miles the tyres were nowhere near needing changing so that represents good durability given how good the tyre performed. Must be down to the car's light weight. My car also spent a few days at the nurburgring and did a track day at Oulton park by the way. Fuel economy is surprisingly good too, the car is easily capable of returning high 20's mpg. The first service at the main dealer was a few hundred quid but everything else was covered and paid for in full by the factory warranty. So not including petrol my Saggy cost me well under £1500 over two years.
There aren't many cars of its performance that can be run so cheaply. The only issue is the warranty but you can get your own taken out if things don't improve on that front.
Vesuvius 996 said:
All very well and good but do you not think that's a one off? Plus it's not a sagaris. A sagaris is the best built Tvr they ever made. Yearly running costs should come in at most £3000 but usually way below that!
funky said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
All very well and good but do you not think that's a one off? Plus it's not a sagaris. A sagaris is the best built Tvr they ever made. Yearly running costs should come in at most £3000 but usually way below that!
Try £1250. A Cerb will cost around a £1 per mile if properly looked after - a money pit.
Go on Ross you know you want to....... If the itch is there then scratch it!!
You will not regret it, if it starts to get expensive then sell up. Just imagine walking out to a Sagaris every morning, picture it, one of the best looking and intimidating cars in the world, sat there on your drive just wanting to be driven! Imagine firing up the engine and hearing it bark. Imagine driving it down an open road accelerating through the gears.........
If you're thinking about it and you're a petrolhead then you've just got to do it.......
Jules.
p.s. been there and done it twice, cost a bit but loved every minute and know that there is nothing else out there like a TVR..........there's no doubting I'll be back in one again soon..........
Edited by Cyclone1 on Thursday 1st February 20:56
t keeps track of that? Should imagine it will handle a lot differently to the fiat coupe so if you do get one might be worth thinking about driver training, apparently most accidents in TVR's happen within the first year or 2 of ownership.
Be prepared for the higher figures, if it works out cheaper it's a bonus, I wouldn't want to try and run one on a tight budget though.
Be prepared for the higher figures, if it works out cheaper it's a bonus, I wouldn't want to try and run one on a tight budget though.
H2ypr...of the ppl who have replied on this thread, myself, Dafty, Pits and RPA are all Sagaris owners or recently got out of one. Pits replaced his to enjoy the softop experience and got a T2 droptop and mine is sold today/tomorrow to help fund a Sagaris based business I set up. I dont think any of us have much of a bad word to say about the car and between us we have probably racked up 70,000-100,000 miles in 18-20months or so. My car is being sold with 19-20k miles on the clock and for the new owner I have just replaced the clutch and boot a new set of rear boots on her. The old rears still had some tread left on them even with 20k miles on the clock, the brakes and pads are still fine, but the pads will probably need doing at some pt in the next yr of ownership. Daft has hillclimbed his, Pits and RPA have both done the 'Ring in theirs and mine has been toured extensively round Scotland, Cornwall and France aswell as being my everyday commuter car.
If you do care about fuel, £10 gets you roughly 11.5 ltrs and around town you will get abut 50 miles from that, over a motorway stretch, you can probably make those 11.5ltr get you 60-65 miles. What size of fuel tank you have is, well frankly variable to be honest. Your manual may possibly tell you 56ltrs, but your reading will never show more than 54 and I think 53.5ltr was the most I ever got in a tank! What I can say with absolute certainty is that with your tank absolutely dogs bollox filled to the brim on an easy right foot M-way jaunt if you need to eke the fuel out, your tank will return you 300miles. Been there, done that.
If you do care about fuel, £10 gets you roughly 11.5 ltrs and around town you will get abut 50 miles from that, over a motorway stretch, you can probably make those 11.5ltr get you 60-65 miles. What size of fuel tank you have is, well frankly variable to be honest. Your manual may possibly tell you 56ltrs, but your reading will never show more than 54 and I think 53.5ltr was the most I ever got in a tank! What I can say with absolute certainty is that with your tank absolutely dogs bollox filled to the brim on an easy right foot M-way jaunt if you need to eke the fuel out, your tank will return you 300miles. Been there, done that.
DJC said:
If you do care about fuel, £10 gets you roughly 11.5 ltrs and around town you will get abut 50 miles from that, over a motorway stretch, you can probably make those 11.5ltr get you 60-65 miles. What size of fuel tank you have is, well frankly variable to be honest. Your manual may possibly tell you 56ltrs, but your reading will never show more than 54 and I think 53.5ltr was the most I ever got in a tank! What I can say with absolute certainty is that with your tank absolutely dogs bollox filled to the brim on an easy right foot M-way jaunt if you need to eke the fuel out, your tank will return you 300miles. Been there, done that.
As DJC says, 300 miles is possible. My Sagaris gets about 20mpg on my daily commute. My Golf R32 gets about 14-15mpg on the same journey because you have to drive it 100% flat out the whole time and even then it's not as quick as the Sagaris being driven with 60% effort.
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