Repairing flip paint (Cascade Indigo)
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My Tuscan was apparently resprayed a couple of years before I got it in an aftermarket version of Cascade Indigo (it was cascade indigo from the factory, but apparently the original paint was $$$). I don't have any paperwork for the respray - when I bought it, the selling dealer said they would find out the paint code and let me know, but they never did, and I suspect it was because they couldn't find out. I think it is this one - https://www.specialistpaints.com/products/tvr-casc... - the only after market version I can find online, but am not certain.
Anyway, it was immaculate when I got it, but over the last couple of years its picked up a few chips and marks - the worst being a 5mm or stone chip on the left wing (it was a small stone chip that seemed to burst a bit), a couple of dings on the back where the roof caught the car (one was there when I got it, one caused by me, doh), some marks by the passenger door (which my primary passenger ie my better half denies were caused by a trailing handbag...) and some where the roof pins go in.
I'd quite like to get these sorted but the couple of body shops I've spoken to didn't seem keen (probably in the too hard for too little money bucket, understandably).
So questions:
- Can you actually do minor repairs to cascade/flip paints?
- Any suggestions as to someone to speak to preferably in the SE?
- Can they colour match it as normal or do I have to hope that the paint linked above is the right one?
Pics below. Excuse the dirt, blasted hosepipe ban!
Anyway, it was immaculate when I got it, but over the last couple of years its picked up a few chips and marks - the worst being a 5mm or stone chip on the left wing (it was a small stone chip that seemed to burst a bit), a couple of dings on the back where the roof caught the car (one was there when I got it, one caused by me, doh), some marks by the passenger door (which my primary passenger ie my better half denies were caused by a trailing handbag...) and some where the roof pins go in.
I'd quite like to get these sorted but the couple of body shops I've spoken to didn't seem keen (probably in the too hard for too little money bucket, understandably).
So questions:
- Can you actually do minor repairs to cascade/flip paints?
- Any suggestions as to someone to speak to preferably in the SE?
- Can they colour match it as normal or do I have to hope that the paint linked above is the right one?
Pics below. Excuse the dirt, blasted hosepipe ban!
Small repairs are extremely difficult and not to be recommended.
These chameleon colours use an undercoat, yours is black..... therefore need a larger area to blend into than a standard metallic basecoat.
Even with standard colours we blend into adjacent panels to disquise any mismatch.
With repairs on a few panels around the car you'll probably end up up painting most of the car,if not all of it, if you want it to look uniform.
I'd go to a bodyshop that specialises in TVRs,most bodyshops won't touch it
These chameleon colours use an undercoat, yours is black..... therefore need a larger area to blend into than a standard metallic basecoat.
Even with standard colours we blend into adjacent panels to disquise any mismatch.
With repairs on a few panels around the car you'll probably end up up painting most of the car,if not all of it, if you want it to look uniform.
I'd go to a bodyshop that specialises in TVRs,most bodyshops won't touch it
From the company I got a touch-up pencil with Chameleon Green. The color is good, but you won't get an "invisible" finish with it.
I think with these paints, in addition to the undercoat, it also depends on how the individual shades of colour are layered. I assume it's different again with each paint application. The spots will definitely remain visible if you don't have the whole part painted. And it will probably also be visible that a fender or trunk lid is repainted.
I think with these paints, in addition to the undercoat, it also depends on how the individual shades of colour are layered. I assume it's different again with each paint application. The spots will definitely remain visible if you don't have the whole part painted. And it will probably also be visible that a fender or trunk lid is repainted.
The only way to get a flip colour perfect is to repaint the whole car in my opinion. The issue is that the car is several different colours dependent on the angle you view the car from. It will look perfect at some angles but there will always be an angle the repair becomes visible.
ETA - this is from first hand experience of having had a TVR expert bodyshop carry out a local repair on a Cascade car.
ETA - this is from first hand experience of having had a TVR expert bodyshop carry out a local repair on a Cascade car.
I had only the front end of mine done (reflex charcoal), absolutely can’t tell from any angle. They did the wings, bonnet and nose. Admittedly it was done by the ex-factory guys up in Blackpool.
I spoke to a very helpful chap at Custom Paints, he explained that the flip-technology was all in the paint. For best results, they recommend using their base coat, but that it wasn’t critical.
And I too agree, cascade indigo is hands-down the best TVR colour.
I spoke to a very helpful chap at Custom Paints, he explained that the flip-technology was all in the paint. For best results, they recommend using their base coat, but that it wasn’t critical.
And I too agree, cascade indigo is hands-down the best TVR colour.
V8covin said:
Small repairs are extremely difficult and not to be recommended.
These chameleon colours use an undercoat, yours is black..... therefore need a larger area to blend into than a standard metallic basecoat.
Even with standard colours we blend into adjacent panels to disquise any mismatch.
With repairs on a few panels around the car you'll probably end up up painting most of the car,if not all of it, if you want it to look uniform.
I'd go to a bodyshop that specialises in TVRs,most bodyshops won't touch it
I am thinking that a non invisible repair might still look better than the obvious chips? I'm also a bit nervous that the big one on the front wing might get water under it and get worse.These chameleon colours use an undercoat, yours is black..... therefore need a larger area to blend into than a standard metallic basecoat.
Even with standard colours we blend into adjacent panels to disquise any mismatch.
With repairs on a few panels around the car you'll probably end up up painting most of the car,if not all of it, if you want it to look uniform.
I'd go to a bodyshop that specialises in TVRs,most bodyshops won't touch it
Imran999 said:
I had only the front end of mine done (reflex charcoal), absolutely can’t tell from any angle. They did the wings, bonnet and nose. Admittedly it was done by the ex-factory guys up in Blackpool.
I spoke to a very helpful chap at Custom Paints, he explained that the flip-technology was all in the paint. For best results, they recommend using their base coat, but that it wasn’t critical.
And I too agree, cascade indigo is hands-down the best TVR colour.
May I ask who did yours Imran? Looks greatI spoke to a very helpful chap at Custom Paints, he explained that the flip-technology was all in the paint. For best results, they recommend using their base coat, but that it wasn’t critical.
And I too agree, cascade indigo is hands-down the best TVR colour.
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