Transducer connector plug
Transducer connector plug
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FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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Anyone know where I can buy the other side of the connector plug (97 Griff) as when I changed the unit there was no plug, just a bodge job.
The plug is grey in colour with 2 pins.
I have phoned Caerbont and am awaiting a response but the chap I spoke to didn't sound confident.
FFG

wildeep

362 posts

278 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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Not seen the connector before but am guessing its some sort of junior timer connector as used for injectors and ecu sensors. If so you can get them from www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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The what connector plug?

wildeep

362 posts

278 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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Its the road speed sensor

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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Just got a call back from Caerbont and they can't supply the other side to the plug. They did tell me it was a Sumitomo connector.
Yes, it is the 3 inch long brass sensor that tells the speedo that the wheels are going around. It sits on a bracket by the diff (basket of a place to work in).
FFG

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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Do you mean this one? (that was the one that fitted the sensor on my GKN at the front - but was originally glued in place!)
www.brisk.cz/en/pro3b.php - which uses a schlemmer connector (have to go to Munich - well I did last year).

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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This is the blighter. Sorry about the poor quality:
http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00419847f00000020.jpg

FFG

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Monday 18th July 2005
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notice mine had been cut of to feed the wires from the sensor through into the engine bay

BB

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Changing the darn thing hasn't worked so I thought I would try testing it last night. Tookl it out againand made sure the end was clean, put it as close as I could see was possible, tuerned the wheel and nothing. I set the voltmeter to 20V setting but no reading whatsoever.
Does this mean I've got a dud un?
Also the sensor does not locate at the highest point on the curve - it sits below this making it difficult to get it that close as the rotating wheel catches on the top of the sensor.
I assume the actaul sensor is just the metal part in the centre?
Getting a bit jacked off with the whole speedo thing now.

Also posted in Griff forum but I guess these are fairly standard across Griff/Chim/Cerb's of that era.
FFG

sparkythecat

8,097 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Changing the darn thing hasn't worked so I thought I would try testing it last night. Tookl it out againand made sure the end was clean, put it as close as I could see was possible, tuerned the wheel and nothing. I set the voltmeter to 20V setting but no reading whatsoever.
Does this mean I've got a dud un?
FFG


Not necessarily. The bible (page249) says the only way to check properly is to use an oscilloscope so you can see the pulses within the waveform. A multimeter may detect the swings but as it averages the voltage reading it may just cancel them out and you'll think the sensor is faulty.

Don't know if you've read my thread www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&h=&t=189131
There's a link in there that describes the sensor theory.

The plug? socket shouldn't be an issue. IIRC there are only 2 wires and plenty of slack so you coud use any sort of weatherpoof connectors.

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Sparky,
Nothing is simple is it. I thought I'd do it myself and hey presto (why did I think that???).
Yes, I know I can connect the wires with anything but it would be nice if I could just plug and play rather than more fannying about. It's not the easiest place to be working.
I am in contact with Sumitomo (who make the connector) and I should have some joy early next week.
FFG

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Just to add to this the 2 lights (orange and red) on the bottom of the speedo unit do not light up at all so maybe I've got a major feed problem.
Also the temp guage has started to drop off and the fans come on at 80 whereas a few days ago the temp sat between 80 and 90 and the fans kicked in at just under 90.
FFG

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Wednesday 27th July 2005
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Anyone know which is the earth is the connector block behind the dash. Assume it is the one that bolts to the rear case of the speedo.
Also, I've menaged to get the other half of the sensor connector (or should have within a day or so) which I know won't make it work but it will make it easier to change in the future.
FFG

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Wednesday 27th July 2005
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FFG, have you not got the meter on the trannie yet ? My Griff has passed the MOT today(not first attempt!!) so i can take a look if it stops bloody raining. By the way, you are making me dizzy having this on two forums.

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th July 2005
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Sorry David - just trying to maximise responses.
trannie (I assume you don't mean transvestite). Any laymans terms help much appreciated.
Having some health issues at present so time not really permitting.
FFG

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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I've finally got the Speedo to work. I got the plug pits fromn Sumitomo and made it up but it didn't work, so I have tried 2 other speedo's (which were working), a seperate earth (which i took form the centre console and can now use for anything behind the dash so all not in vain), adjusted the transducer closer and closer but no joy. Now works - it was the new connector I put ion and the one wire had bnot clicked in and had come out. As I had done the job, taped it all up and placcy tied it out the way I never thought to go back to this as I thought it was job done. Lessen to be learnt here. I have also chipped a piece of veneer out of the dash due to taking it out so many times.
FFG

sparkythecat

8,097 posts

284 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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FlipFlopGriff said:
I've finally got the Speedo to work. I got the plug pits fromn Sumitomo and made it up but it didn't work, so I have tried 2 other speedo's (which were working), a seperate earth (which i took form the centre console and can now use for anything behind the dash so all not in vain), adjusted the transducer closer and closer but no joy. Now works - it was the new connector I put ion and the one wire had bnot clicked in and had come out. As I had done the job, taped it all up and placcy tied it out the way I never thought to go back to this as I thought it was job done. Lessen to be learnt here. I have also chipped a piece of veneer out of the dash due to taking it out so many times.
FFG


Pleased to hear you got it working at long last!!

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Saturday 25th February 2006
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Interesting..........I had a suspect transponder in my Chim and got a replacement from the factory. It came with new pins, connectors, plug and socket - the full kit. Gave it to Leven to fit and it worked perfectly. Speedo was miles out though but that's another story..........

Glad you got it sorted (at last).

Oh - are you translating using Babel Fish, or do you just have fat fingers?