Cancelled bids on ebay
Cancelled bids on ebay
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TV8

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3,524 posts

204 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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for the second time in a couple of weeks, something was pulled on ebay just before the end at a lowish price on a no-reserve auction. The first was Griff 500 and a T5 gearbox this afternoon.

I am not a frequent ebayer - is this sort of thing tollerated or allowed?

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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I know what you mean. no reserve means no reserve, not Oh st I thought I would do better thahn i am doing!!

sellers who want to recoup a minimum price should just set a reserve and be done.

N.



Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

250 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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But eBay charge you to set a reserve...

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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Barry Ashcroft said:
But eBay charge you to set a reserve...
Well don't pull the item when it doesn't meet what you want!!
Too many nobs about on e-bay these days.

its simple. set a reserve or don't set one but let the item sell??

Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

250 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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Join the real world

S6 Devil

3,556 posts

262 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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TV8 said:
a T5 gearbox this afternoon.
I emailed the guy selling the T5, he will rebuild your gearbox for £175 plus whatever parts are needed or sell you a rebuilt one for £500.

lestershaw

1,591 posts

187 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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Barry Ashcroft said:
But eBay charge you to set a reserve...
not if you start the auction at your reserve price

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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Barry Ashcroft said:
Join the real world
yes regretfully the real world seems to be full of aholes who don't have any idea how to conduct themselves these days, or the concept of an auction it seems.

N.

Gazzab

21,633 posts

311 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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heightswitch said:
Barry Ashcroft said:
Join the real world
yes regretfully the real world seems to be full of aholes who don't have any idea how to conduct themselves these days, or the concept of an auction it seems.

N.
+ 1

The significant number of idiots on ebay plus the trading rules are now making it far too easy to ruin the buying / selling experience.


TOV!E

2,016 posts

263 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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Barry Ashcroft said:
Join the real world
Well said Barry

TV8

Original Poster:

3,524 posts

204 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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so more tollerated than allowed then.

Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Yeah

Let's get sensible about this rather than call people nob or ahole after all I just answered a question

If you advertise something and you know it's worth a grand you ain't gonna let it go for £500

So what about a reserve or higher starting price? Well eBay charge you for that fact.
So your option is manipulate the sale, pull the auction or pay eBay more money (on top of the 10% final value fee)

You might not like it but that's what happens (in the real world)

Gazzab

21,633 posts

311 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I disagree that it happens in 'the real world'. That's the wrong description IMHO. It happens in cases where people don't play by the rules. It is questionable ethics/moral compass. When selling on eBay I am more worried about being scammed than I am about the selling price. If you put goods in a real auction you can't run to the front and grab your items if the selling price is too low.
I treat eBay like a true auction OR as a classified advert. If more people played by the rules then eBay would be a much better place. Name calling isn't fair though.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Gazzab said:
I disagree that it happens in 'the real world'. That's the wrong description IMHO. It happens in cases where people don't play by the rules. It is questionable ethics/moral compass. When selling on eBay I am more worried about being scammed than I am about the selling price. If you put goods in a real auction you can't run to the front and grab your items if the selling price is too low.
I treat eBay like a true auction OR as a classified advert. If more people played by the rules then eBay would be a much better place. Name calling isn't fair though.
Yep Thats the point and maybe it reflects some peoples view of the real world!

Others on here seem to have the view that the real world is a world where they can draw up the rules to suit themselves. So not withstanding that you should be happy that you can access a site to give you world advertising coverage, the real issue for some is that they aren't happy paying a company for that advertising access and they wish to corrupt the way they do business by not playing to the rules of the site because they want something for nothing!

Rather than being in the real world I fear that it actually highlights some peoples own morals in the real world. I am happy with mine. others seem to be more take take take. Its a shame that the real world is becoming more like that.

N.

shmooauto

108 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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...but the other trouble with eBay (Amongst the many) - is that after you've sold your item for rock bloody bottom price...that's when the floods of emails come in that say............. "Oh no, I forgot, or oh no I was busy and meant to bid, that looked like a real bargain, if the sale falls through will you let me know?"

That really annoys me I have to say. Often thought that they should offer a longer than 10 day period for auctions as well which might give a extra weekend for those that never seem to have time to drive for an hour to look at a £15k car. I'm ranting...I'll go....

central

16,745 posts

246 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Gazzab said:
heightswitch said:
Barry Ashcroft said:
Join the real world
yes regretfully the real world seems to be full of aholes who don't have any idea how to conduct themselves these days, or the concept of an auction it seems.

N.
+ 1

The significant number of idiots on ebay plus the trading rules are now making it far too easy to ruin the buying / selling experience.
See also the daily ebay thread in the lounge.

Simon says

19,440 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I have just had 2 messers myself one non payer (he's son used the account by mistake) the other person WON my Denon amp then asks if its faulty after I clearly stated it was confused Ebay as become a joke rolleyes what people don't understand is its an auction site not a boot sale.

DonkeyApple

69,693 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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heightswitch said:
Yep Thats the point and maybe it reflects some peoples view of the real world!

Others on here seem to have the view that the real world is a world where they can draw up the rules to suit themselves. So not withstanding that you should be happy that you can access a site to give you world advertising coverage, the real issue for some is that they aren't happy paying a company for that advertising access and they wish to corrupt the way they do business by not playing to the rules of the site because they want something for nothing!

Rather than being in the real world I fear that it actually highlights some peoples own morals in the real world. I am happy with mine. others seem to be more take take take. Its a shame that the real world is becoming more like that.

N.
There does seem to be a whole group of society who simply don't understand that things need to be paid for.

Anyway, at the moment the group who are severly pissing me off on EBay are Yorkshirmen. I've not yet found one who once you've won the auction of their item tries to get you to complete away from Paypal etc so they can avoid the fees and when you say you can't they up the postage by that amount.

It's nice to see them getting back to their roots but they were easier to deal with when they were all bleaching their hair and driving around in RR Sports. biggrin

DonkeyApple

69,693 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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shmooauto said:
...but the other trouble with eBay (Amongst the many) - is that after you've sold your item for rock bloody bottom price...that's when the floods of emails come in that say............. "Oh no, I forgot, or oh no I was busy and meant to bid, that looked like a real bargain, if the sale falls through will you let me know?"

That really annoys me I have to say. Often thought that they should offer a longer than 10 day period for auctions as well which might give a extra weekend for those that never seem to have time to drive for an hour to look at a £15k car. I'm ranting...I'll go....
One of the sides to my business is retail facing and I can tell you that those types of people were never going to bid. There are enormous numbers of weirdos who spend their time genuinely thinking they were up for buying something and not understanding why they never did. These people have some kind of problem but take up so much time pretending to be players it is frightening.

Gazzab

21,633 posts

311 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Oi I am only 3 miles from Yorkshire!