DRIVING THROUGH SWITZERLAND (Your Tips Please)
DRIVING THROUGH SWITZERLAND (Your Tips Please)
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Chimpafrolic

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9,637 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Hi all,

This year I am considering driving through Switzerland.

My planned leg 2 is: Strasbourg France - to - Bergamo Italy (completed in one day)

The last time I drove a UK car through Switzerland was in 1993 in an old MK111 Cortina and I don't even think I needed a Vignette back then (or if I did I never bought one as I was an impoverished student living on the edge biggrin).

So here are my questions:

1) If I avoid the motorways, do I even need a Vignette?

2) Is driving through Switzerland in one day without using the motorway (Vignette) network a practical proposition? (I seem to remember some big hills with snow on them last time so for all their beauty the A & B roads can be a bit winding and slow wink)

3) I believe there are additional toll charges for the longer tunnels, can these be avoided given my rout?

4) I need to depart from Strasbourg in the morning & arrive in Bergamo in the late afternoon so I will only ever get one day use out of the Vignette, am I better off forgetting the whole Swiss thing & skirting around the clock makers via France?

If I end up spending €30.00 on a Vignette and another €30.00 on a tunnel for just one day's diving it starts to make the Switzerland idea look like an expensive luxury.

Thanks in advance for sharing the benefit of your Swiss driving experiences and answering my questions.

Dave.

Tuscan Wil

422 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Hi Dave

Yes you will need to pay the Vignette as soon as you reach the Swiss border, they will give you a little sticker on your windscreen but I think it lasts from Jan to Dec, so if you need intend to go back again this year it is worth doing.

The Swiss motorways or country routes are very nice with good scenary. Just watch your speed.

Hope that helps

Chimpafrolic

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9,637 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Tuscan Wil said:
Hi Dave

Yes you will need to pay the Vignette as soon as you reach the Swiss border, they will give you a little sticker on your windscreen but I think it lasts from Jan to Dec, so if you need intend to go back again this year it is worth doing.

The Swiss motorways or country routes are very nice with good scenary. Just watch your speed.

Hope that helps
Thanks Wil, but from what I have read the Vignette is not actually a compulsory thing.

If you stay off the motorway network I don't thing you need one?

The question is if staying off the motorway network is a practical proposition, or will it be painfully slow?

I only have one day to traverse the whole country, perhaps it would be cheaper and better just to scoot around it via France?

I was in Interlaken in a hire car last year and while its all very picturesque €60.00 on tolls for one day's driving and lunch stop in the mountains is a bit rich.

Thoughts scratchchin

bomb

3,795 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Hi.
we did that very same journey last week in our Griff. We did stop at the entry into the country and paid the 30 quid ( or so) for the windscreen sticker.

Its valid until next January.

The tunnels were so slow due to maintenance work, we sat in traffic for a few hours. The going was painfully slow.

The route is a very scenic one, and if you buy the 'sticker' its just an excuse to go back later on in the year to get your monies worth !!

Bregamot is a great place to visit. Keep it quiet though, or they'll all be going......

Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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The Vignette costs CHF40 and is only required for the autoroutes. Carry a spare set of key light bulbs (headlamp, stop/tail and indicator should do it) in your car along with a warning triangle, first-aid kit and at least one high-visibility vest and you can't go wrong.

davemac250

4,499 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I have to work down there every three months.

The country routes can be, as you fear painfully slow. Get out of town and off the motorways every village seems to have a roundabout with speedhumps in and out, a camera every 20 yards and parked up patrol cars. Maybe I am just unlucky with where i have to go though?

You don't have to worry about the cameras, just the police.

Personally, I wouldn't bother and pay the toll, as a percentage of your total costs it wikll probably be very small.


Tuscan Wil

422 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Dave
yes you are right, apparently you don't have to pay Vignette if you don't use the motorway. I guess you better practice your French and tell the border control then. Judging you need to get from Strasbourg to Bergamo in one day, I fear that it is hard to get through Switzerland fast enough without using the motorway. Indeed some tunnels or bridges will be additional too. So you may be better off stay in France. Mind you the Vignette last until end of the year and you may need it on your return journy.

Another road trip for you, I am so jealous of you!!

Magic919

14,486 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Keep the warning triangle in reach, not in the boot. Don't use satnav safety camera warnings. Vignette for motorways and similar only. Don't speed!

Chimpafrolic

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9,637 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Thanks everyone, some good tips here.

It's all helping me plan my summer road trip.

I've got to say I'm going a bit cold on the whole Swiss thing.

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Chimpafrolic said:
I've got to say I'm going a bit cold on the whole Swiss thing.
You might be missing a trick here, Switzerland is a lovely place to visit in its own right, I guess it depends on what sort of scenery you like. Some great roads and whilst speed is an issue I have never had a problem, I go there every year.
A Vignette is a must though - not much point in doing a road trip and penny pinching over a few quid IMO. Filling up there will save you a few quid anyway, fuel is always "cheap" in Switzerland and Luxembourg.

Out of interest, what is the attraction of Bergamo?

Chimpafrolic

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208 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Ribol said:
You might be missing a trick here, Switzerland is a lovely place to visit in its own right, I guess it depends on what sort of scenery you like. Some great roads and whilst speed is an issue I have never had a problem, I go there every year.
A Vignette is a must though - not much point in doing a road trip and penny pinching over a few quid IMO. Filling up there will save you a few quid anyway, fuel is always "cheap" in Switzerland and Luxembourg.

Out of interest, what is the attraction of Bergamo?
Thanks Ribol, I have toured Switzerland a couple of times now and have enjoyed it greatly on both occasions.

Actually I lived in Zurich for a short period in the late eighties until they deported me rolleyes

Lots of chat above about speed traps, but I must say when I was there a year or so ago in a hire car I never saw a single one.

Money isn't really an issue, all this is just my way of thrashing out my options.

We have friends in Bergamo if you must know.

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Chimpafrolic said:
We have friends in Bergamo if you must know.
Ok, been there before and it didn't really stand out in a car hoon sort of way, hence the question.

Chimpafrolic

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9,637 posts

208 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Ribol said:
Ok, been there before and it didn't really stand out in a car hoon sort of way, hence the question.
The old medieval town is beautiful mate, it's well worth a visit.

Take the wife for a long weekend, Squeezy jet get you there for next to nothing.

Well worth the Brownie points from SWMBO.

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Chimpafrolic said:
The old medieval town is beautiful mate, it's well worth a visit.
Yes, so is Castell'Arquato if that is your sort of thing and you happen to be in the area.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Gothard tunnel is Fun, well most of the tunnels are fun biggrin

Chimpafrolic

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9,637 posts

208 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Ribol said:
Chimpafrolic said:
The old medieval town is beautiful mate, it's well worth a visit.
Yes, so is Castell'Arquato if that is your sort of thing and you happen to be in the area.
Hmmmmm, Castell'Arquato?

Don't know it.

I will have to look into that one scratchchin

Thanks for the tip.

cwin

961 posts

248 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Magic919 said:
Keep the warning triangle in reach, not in the boot. Don't use satnav safety camera warnings. Vignette for motorways and similar only. Don't speed!
Why do not advise on using sat nav safety camera warnings?

Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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cwin said:
Magic919 said:
Keep the warning triangle in reach, not in the boot. Don't use satnav safety camera warnings. Vignette for motorways and similar only. Don't speed!
Why do not advise on using sat nav safety camera warnings?
IFAIK, It's not necessary to have the warning triangle and hi-viz in the cabin in Switzerland, unlike in France. Equally, unlike in France (or soon-to-be at least) the Swiss won't screw you for having a safety camera DB in your sat-nav unit. They won't take kindly however to RADAR detectors. If you have one, don't bring it, they can stiff you just for having one in the car, even if it's buried somewhere in your luggage in the boot.

Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Forgot to add, the Swiss are hot on the speed camera thing but they are far less hot in Suisse Romande (French Part) compared to the German part. You still get fined the same but there are fewer cameras at this end...

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Roop said:
Forgot to add, the Swiss are hot on the speed camera thing but they are far less hot in Suisse Romande (French Part) compared to the German part. You still get fined the same but there are fewer cameras at this end...
It is also worth remembering that nowadays doing 50kph over the speed limit in France gets you an instant ban and the car impounded, which could somewhat disrupt any well planned trip.