Focus 2.0 TDCi Remap

[Karlos69]

Had the Focus remapped today by Angel Tuning.

It's early days yet, but a drive around the ring roads of Basingstoke and I can definitely feel it pulling harder in every gear. It seems much more willing to pick up the pace in gear and you get a nice whistle from the turbo too.

I shall wait to see what effect it has on the mpg though.

All done in just over an hour - should keep me amused for a little while anyway!

[Emeye]

Funny I was wondering about remapping Ford diesels the other day. You hear lots about remapped VWs, but not so much about Fords unless they are the Petrol STs or RSs. What sort of figures did you have and what are you supposed to have gained?

Edited by Emeye on Monday 5th July 14:42

[Karlos69]

It was 136bhp as standard with something in the region of 250lb ft of torque (iirc).

The remap is supposed to give around 33 to 35 bhp and 55lb ft of torque, which would seem about right.

Superchips/bluefin quote a few bhp less, and others, like Celtic Tuning were claiming 186bhp or some such nonsensical figure. It would be nice to put it on the rollers one day if I get a chance, just to see what it actually makes.

The guy from Angel Tuning said they do a lot of VAG cars. They also do quite a few Peugeot/Citroen cars, which have the same diesel engines as the Focus (1.6 and 2.0).

Edited by Karlos69 on Monday 5th July 14:50

[HellDiver]

Bluefin doesn't give big final numbers, they seem to concentrate on smooth power delivery and fixing flat spots and the like.

Going by the Bluefin remap on my 1.8 Duratec...

[Karlos69]

HellDiver said:

Bluefin doesn't give big final numbers, they seem to concentrate on smooth power delivery and fixing flat spots and the like.

Going by the Bluefin remap on my 1.8 Duratec...

I think the Angel Tuning philosophy is similar - no massive claims, just improved driveability and smoothness of power delivery.

[HellDiver]

Karlos69 said:

HellDiver said:

Bluefin doesn't give big final numbers, they seem to concentrate on smooth power delivery and fixing flat spots and the like.

Going by the Bluefin remap on my 1.8 Duratec...

I think the Angel Tuning philosophy is similar - no massive claims, just improved driveability and smoothness of power delivery.

Probably, the Bluefinned Duratec is lovely now, nice consistant power delivery, no hiccups, flat spots. It even idles better and doesn't hold the warmup cycle anywhere near as long in the mornings, so I'm saving fuel already on the 1 mile commute. Makes the rubbish old Duratec drive like a 4-pot BMW engine.

[Karlos69]

I did consider a Bluefin as when I had my Skoda, they always got good reviews for those people after a remap who weren't going to be uprating anything else in the future.

However, those on the various Ford forums out there suggested that Blufin wan't very good for the diesel engine due to issues with injectors, which obviously put me off a little.

[S26VE P]

I have a Bluefin waiting for its download that will be going on our 2.0 TDCI Kuga this evening. All its cost me is the carriage to/from Superchips as i removed it from my RS as went a different route. Will report back once tried.

[Karlos69]

S26VE P said:

I have a Bluefin waiting for its download that will be going on our 2.0 TDCI Kuga this evening. All its cost me is the carriage to/from Superchips as i removed it from my RS as went a different route. Will report back once tried.

Is that the revised engine that is 163bhp as standard?

Edited by Karlos69 on Tuesday 6th July 13:30

[S26VE P]

nope this is an 08 Kuga, so the same 136bhp engine

[HellDiver]

So you can reuse the Bluefin box and just pay for a different map if you change car?

[S26VE P]

HellDiver said:

So you can reuse the Bluefin box and just pay for a different map if you change car?

if you change car within the first year you can swap it over for the carriage to/from superchips IF it requires returning to then, its possible that it can be done online so not always a charge. after the year there will be a charge but im not sure what that is.

[mondayo]

Karlos69 said:

It was 136bhp as standard with something in the region of 250lb ft of torque (iirc).

The remap is supposed to give around 33 to 35 bhp and 55lb ft of torque, which would seem about right.

Superchips/bluefin quote a few bhp less, and others, like Celtic Tuning were claiming 186bhp or some such nonsensical figure. It would be nice to put it on the rollers one day if I get a chance, just to see what it actually makes.

The guy from Angel Tuning said they do a lot of VAG cars. They also do quite a few Peugeot/Citroen cars, which have the same diesel engines as the Focus (1.6 and 2.0).

Edited by Karlos69 on Monday 5th July 14:50

I think the 2.0 is loads better chipped. It revs much quicker and all the way round to the red line....or at least mine did.

[Karlos69]

mondayo said:

I think the 2.0 is loads better chipped. It revs much quicker and all the way round to the red line....or at least mine did.

Mine is much better since the remap and having had a few days driving it now, I totally agree with the above.

The car is definitely much quicker and pulls harder in every gear. It's now the car it should have been when it left the Ford factory!

[993pro1972]

I had my connect done by www.advancedtuning.co.uk and it is loads better, it also got rid of the 70mph limiter :-)

[Johnnytheboy]

A guy at work was asking me about this - would mpg gains be significant? He's not interested in extra bhp.

[Karlos69]

Many of the tuners out there will offer an economy remap for those not too fussed about bhp/torque.

My Focus has seen roughly a 5 mpg increase since the remap, but that's when driven conservatively. Using the extra horses obviously increases fuel consumption!

[AAGR]

Have you ever paused to ask yourself why manufacturers like Ford haven't offered the 'chipped' level as standard from the very start ? Is there something they know that the 'chipping' specialists/tuners are missing ?
Or do the 'chipped' engines break all sort of regulations regarding noise and emissions ?

[Karlos69]

AAGR said:

Have you ever paused to ask yourself why manufacturers like Ford haven't offered the 'chipped' level as standard from the very start ? Is there something they know that the 'chipping' specialists/tuners are missing ?
Or do the 'chipped' engines break all sort of regulations regarding noise and emissions ?

I believe it has something to do with the multitude of different environmental conditions and quality of fuel sold around the world in locations where a manufacturer would sell their cars, along with the likelihood that a percentage of owners/drivers will not service their car at the recommended intervals. Emissions may also have something to do with it too, but a remap will not affect the emissions of your car enough to make it fail the MOT.

[stevemiller]

Karlos69 said:

AAGR said:

Have you ever paused to ask yourself why manufacturers like Ford haven't offered the 'chipped' level as standard from the very start ? Is there something they know that the 'chipping' specialists/tuners are missing ?
Or do the 'chipped' engines break all sort of regulations regarding noise and emissions ?

I believe it has something to do with the multitude of different environmental conditions and quality of fuel sold around the world in locations where a manufacturer would sell their cars, along with the likelihood that a percentage of owners/drivers will not service their car at the recommended intervals. Emissions may also have something to do with it too, but a remap will not affect the emissions of your car enough to make it fail the MOT.

I have had Superchip/Bluefin on various cars and when MOT came round they were actually lower on most of the emissions figures. Also ran a MGZT CDTi to 175k before killing it with petrol. That was running a superchip map with a synergy box on top with egr blanked and inlet manifold modded. 114bhp to over 165bhp no problems throughout ownership