Will Ford be able to see Dreamscience?

Will Ford be able to see Dreamscience?

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kbf1981

Original Poster:

2,287 posts

207 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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I'm thinking of getting the Dreamscience hand flash unit for my Focus ST-3.

It copies the ecu map, and saves it as standard, then you get a choice of new programs to load.

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Race +

Here's the link:

http://performancestars.co.uk/store/product_info.p...

What do people think? Could I flash to stock everytime I get the car serviced and no one would be the wiser for warrenty terms?

Brink

1,505 posts

215 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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There will be a re-flash counter somewhere, so if you're constantly re-mapping, it will show up as a high value.

kbf1981

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2,287 posts

207 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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Should the flash counter ever be greater than 1? If it is...i'm assuming they'll know.

Funk

26,563 posts

216 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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This has been discussed at great length on www.focusstoc.com, with a lot of input from Jared at Dreamscience.

The DS unit resets all the parameters that could be used to show it's ever been there - this is 5-second job while it clears error codes etc. It's stated that the DS map is undetectable when flashed back to stock.

HOWEVER, Ford are running cars with various maps on them so that they know what the symptoms or failure points will be with mapped cars. Even if you have taken the map off the car and it's submitted for warranty work, Ford may be able to show that component failure on your car matches known failure with a remap.

Dreamscience are also the only tuning company who clearly state "More performance = more wear". They're pretty clear about it and I respect that in a firm. To my knowledge, we've not yet had a single remapped car with any issues on the forum though.

Hope this helps.

Marcellus

7,163 posts

226 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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If you are concerned about warranty then I'd suggest you look at either the Superchips (Bluefin) or WOlf (Code:red) offerings.

Both offer a warranty as standard.

As for Dreamscience - no issues Funk?? gues we're forgetting about those who keep getting "limp mode"

Funk

26,563 posts

216 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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Limp mode isn't an 'issue' as such though Marc, it's the car doing what it's supposed to do to protect components and it's worth noting that the only cars hitting 'limp mode' are modified, not standard. The DS map is designed for a car that is otherwise standard, but the custom-tuning is now becoming available.

As Marcellus says, Superchips and Wolf's Code:Red offer warranties of sorts - I'd be more inclined to go with Code:Red if the warranty is a major concern; Gary at Wolf excels at customer service and will genuinely do all he can to help you. Top bloke!

Jon GT2

356 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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We have to submit every diagnostic test to Ford now as part of the warranty so even if the dealer cant tell Ford may be able too.