Puma brakes - rear drum brakes with ABS ????/

[CIS121]

Hi,

My partner is looking for a Puma and we've noticed on the ones we've seen (1.7) that they have drum rear brakes. Do these also have ABS? Drum brakes are pretty dated and I'd be surprised if a car with drum brakes had ABS.

Can anyone please put us right on this?

Thanks

[FWDRacer]

All Puma's have Drum rear brakes and ABS. Tis True....

The cars go through front brake discs and pads, if driven spiritedly. I've not changed the rear shoes in 80K on my 1.7 Puma, the rear brakes do so little work through weight transfer of the vehicle to the front under braking.

Rear disc conversions have been undertaken by people raiding the Ford parts bin if modifying is your thing (see www.pumapeople.com - great site) and the Ford FRP Puma, all Blue wide arched special came with rear discs as standard.

Don't let the fact that it is on rear drums put you off a brilliant car.

The way the car goes round corners means that the brakes ain't needed to often

Edited by FWDRacer on Monday 11th June 13:23

[Jon GT2]

I can vouch for that,I've seen a few on track-days and they always seem to go well.

Edited by Jon GT2 on Monday 11th June 13:59

[plfrench]

Slight aside, but my missuses Zetec-S Fiesta, which I believe shares quite a few under the skin components with the Puma has truely awful brakes. They seem incredibly wooden and honest to god, the car will slow down with just the rear drums using the hand brake quicker than using the footbrake unless you REALLY stand on the pedal. Unless the road is wet, you'd need to be he-man to get the ABS to cut in!

Is this normal, or is something amiss with her car??

[Jon GT2]

That doesnt sound right to me,cant really think of any common faults though.

[plfrench]

Thanks for that Jon, I thought she should get them checked out! It's a shame, as they're spoiling an otherwise fun little car! It's almost as if the pads are too hard and aren't getting a purchase on the discs. Do pads age like rubber???

[Jon GT2]

Not normally though i have seen pads that were too hard in the past,generally that just causes excessive noise.Worth getting it checked out though in case there is some strange hydraulic fault or stiff caliper etc.

[Nighthawk]

I had a ZS in the family back in 01, the brakes were actually quite good.

Sounds like you have a problem on your car, maybe a sticking front caliper as suggested by Jon, or even a seized rear cylinder.

The car has electronic brake force distribution, so it's possible that the brakes might react oddly if the car isn't braking correctly on all wheels.

The EBD is an extra function of the ABS along side the brake traction control, so the retardation speed of the wheels is being looked at constantly not just during ABS events.

[space_cowboy]

FWDRacer said:

All Puma's have Drum rear brakes and ABS. Tis True...

Edited by FWDRacer on Monday 11th June 13:23

No its not the Racing Puma has rear discs too.

[Nighthawk]

space_cowboy said:

FWDRacer said:

All Puma's have Drum rear brakes and ABS. Tis True...

Edited by FWDRacer on Monday 11th June 13:23

No its not the Racing Puma has rear discs too.

quote him fairly m8, he did go on to say that the FRP had discs

[space_cowboy]

Nighthawk said:

space_cowboy said:

FWDRacer said:

All Puma's have Drum rear brakes and ABS. Tis True...

Edited by FWDRacer on Monday 11th June 13:23

No its not the Racing Puma has rear discs too.

quote him fairly m8, he did go on to say that the FRP had discs

ah my bad didnt read all the post, appologies

[southpaw]

space_cowboy said:

FWDRacer said:

All Puma's have Drum rear brakes and ABS. Tis True...

No its not the Racing Puma has rear discs too.

Plus 1.4's and I think 1.6's only had ABS as an option, not standard fit