ford mondeo diesels
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I have a Mondy TDCI 130 horse, done 140000 from new and is still on the original clutch, good all round car. IMHOHi.
I also own a TDCI 130 Mondeo. Great car with an excellent engine and touch wood, no problems either.
I'm a member on the Mondeo Enthusiasts Group (MEG). www.fordmondeo.org/forum/fusionbb.php?
Great site with masses of info.
I've just done a search and came up with the following.....
Hope it helps.
Things to look out for
There are 2 models you could get - the 115ps and 130ps versions. Sometimes dealers will try and pass off 115's as a 130 so just make sure you know what you are getting. I would go for the 130ps model as there is little or no difference in fuel economy, or insurance costs.
Full service history - make sure you can get this and ask if there have been any issues with the car relating to injector/sensor faults, these can be expensive if they start. Make sure you get a good warranty and that these issues are covered.
Check for rust at bottom of doors. Quite a common issue but Ford will repair or replace the doors under the anti corrosion warranty so long as the car has full history. Not all cars suffer from this - mine is fine.
Rear Wishbone Bushes - common issues with MK3 Saloons and Hatchbacks. Listen for any knocking from the rear of the car when going over bumps. Mine were basically knackered from when I got the car and after some arguments (as I asked them to check before delivery) they replaced the whole subframe under warranty.
Little history on the MK3 Diesels.
2000 - 2002. TDDi (115ps)
I have one of these. Not as economical as the TDCi's and not as refined, although not a tractor as some TDCi owners will say - very quiet on cruising (where it spends most of its time). Very solid cars, very reliable engines with little issues. Same engine as the TDCi but with different fuelling system (Direct Injection). There is also a 90ps version that was sold in Ireland and Europe but not in the UK.
Late 2001 - now TDCi (130ps)
Released in addition to the TDDi as a more powerful, more refined alternative due to its more complex Commonrail Injection fuelling. Excellent engines but you will hear stories on here about injector issues and the dreaded 'limp home mode' (bit like the Blue Screen of Death in Windows). These issues not as common as you would be led to believe but something to be aware of when checking the history of the car.
2002 - now TDCi (115ps)
Brought in to replace the TDDi in the UK (TDDi was still sold in Europe and Ireland after this date). As above but lower power output. Can give more of a kick when the turbo cuts in as its fitted with a Fixed Vane turbo as opposed to the Variable vane thats in the TDCi (and early TDDi's).
Other TDCi's
There are actually 4 TDCi engines available in the Mondeo. The others are a 2.0L 90ps version introduced last year, and the 2.2L 155ps version released in 2004.
I also found this post, which was quite interesting and informative.
Don't be scared of high milers if you are buying.
I have a 51 plate TDCi estate, ex demonstrator. I do 43,000 or so miles a year....90% of that is up and down to Glasgow from Newcastle several times a week for work.
The car now has 173,000 miles on the clock.
Never had to call the RAC. Total cost of failed parts: £70 for injector recoding at about 140,000 miles. Everything else has been consumables, but only on second battery and still on original clutch/cable.
I change the oil every six thousand miles or so, have always had it religiously serviced every 12,000. First at Ford dealer (under warranty), then the minute the warranty expired, at my trusty local backstreet garage. Ford dealers SUCK - they are like Harley-Davidson dealers (I am a biker)....a potential ripoff at every service. Before the orig injectors got recoded, the dealer quoted me £400 for NEW injectors.
If you are buying, a motorway-miler like mine that has had the ultra-regular oil changes can't be beaten and they are now pennies.
Will have a 2.2TDCi estate next. I'm sold on these permanently now...
Never even had the famed starting problems....
Gaz
I also own a TDCI 130 Mondeo. Great car with an excellent engine and touch wood, no problems either.
I'm a member on the Mondeo Enthusiasts Group (MEG). www.fordmondeo.org/forum/fusionbb.php?
Great site with masses of info.
I've just done a search and came up with the following.....
Hope it helps.
Things to look out for
There are 2 models you could get - the 115ps and 130ps versions. Sometimes dealers will try and pass off 115's as a 130 so just make sure you know what you are getting. I would go for the 130ps model as there is little or no difference in fuel economy, or insurance costs.
Full service history - make sure you can get this and ask if there have been any issues with the car relating to injector/sensor faults, these can be expensive if they start. Make sure you get a good warranty and that these issues are covered.
Check for rust at bottom of doors. Quite a common issue but Ford will repair or replace the doors under the anti corrosion warranty so long as the car has full history. Not all cars suffer from this - mine is fine.
Rear Wishbone Bushes - common issues with MK3 Saloons and Hatchbacks. Listen for any knocking from the rear of the car when going over bumps. Mine were basically knackered from when I got the car and after some arguments (as I asked them to check before delivery) they replaced the whole subframe under warranty.
Little history on the MK3 Diesels.
2000 - 2002. TDDi (115ps)
I have one of these. Not as economical as the TDCi's and not as refined, although not a tractor as some TDCi owners will say - very quiet on cruising (where it spends most of its time). Very solid cars, very reliable engines with little issues. Same engine as the TDCi but with different fuelling system (Direct Injection). There is also a 90ps version that was sold in Ireland and Europe but not in the UK.
Late 2001 - now TDCi (130ps)
Released in addition to the TDDi as a more powerful, more refined alternative due to its more complex Commonrail Injection fuelling. Excellent engines but you will hear stories on here about injector issues and the dreaded 'limp home mode' (bit like the Blue Screen of Death in Windows). These issues not as common as you would be led to believe but something to be aware of when checking the history of the car.
2002 - now TDCi (115ps)
Brought in to replace the TDDi in the UK (TDDi was still sold in Europe and Ireland after this date). As above but lower power output. Can give more of a kick when the turbo cuts in as its fitted with a Fixed Vane turbo as opposed to the Variable vane thats in the TDCi (and early TDDi's).
Other TDCi's
There are actually 4 TDCi engines available in the Mondeo. The others are a 2.0L 90ps version introduced last year, and the 2.2L 155ps version released in 2004.
I also found this post, which was quite interesting and informative.
Don't be scared of high milers if you are buying.
I have a 51 plate TDCi estate, ex demonstrator. I do 43,000 or so miles a year....90% of that is up and down to Glasgow from Newcastle several times a week for work.
The car now has 173,000 miles on the clock.
Never had to call the RAC. Total cost of failed parts: £70 for injector recoding at about 140,000 miles. Everything else has been consumables, but only on second battery and still on original clutch/cable.
I change the oil every six thousand miles or so, have always had it religiously serviced every 12,000. First at Ford dealer (under warranty), then the minute the warranty expired, at my trusty local backstreet garage. Ford dealers SUCK - they are like Harley-Davidson dealers (I am a biker)....a potential ripoff at every service. Before the orig injectors got recoded, the dealer quoted me £400 for NEW injectors.
If you are buying, a motorway-miler like mine that has had the ultra-regular oil changes can't be beaten and they are now pennies.
Will have a 2.2TDCi estate next. I'm sold on these permanently now...
Never even had the famed starting problems....
Gaz
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