Ford Focus 2012 - No Sync?

Ford Focus 2012 - No Sync?

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Condi

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Friday 12th August 2022
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I recently bought a 2012 Focus, with the Sony Radio system. On the radio it has a "phone" button and when you go into the settings it has a bluetooth button. I've been struggling to connect my phone to the bluetooth and today did some more investigating. It appears that despite looking like it has bluetooth the car had no Sync software from new. This is incredibly frustrating as it's something I use a lot of.

It is possible to upgrade the Focus from a mk 2 sync, which would be the correct one for my car, to the Mk 3 sync with Android Auto/iPhone connection, but is it possible to install a sync system and bluetooth integration where there wasn't one originally? Even a mk2 would be better than no phone connection at all!

EDIT - Or, as it has the Sony head unit, is it possible that it doesn't have Sync but has some Sony version or something instead?

Edited by Condi on Friday 12th August 11:19

twing

5,138 posts

136 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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What's the reg and I'll check ETIS. The phone button maybe just mute but odd that you have Bluetooth in the menu

ETA don't think Sync was around in 2012

Condi

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Friday 12th August 2022
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Sync was around then I think? Pretty sure it was. Other Mk3 Focus's had v1 sync and then the facelift models had mk2 sync I believe.

Reg is ET12CZF

This is what the radio looks like. Certainly appears as if it should have phone connection!

Thank you.


twing

5,138 posts

136 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Says "Less Sync" and I can't see anything re B/T in the list. If the headunit has B/T in the menu have you checked that it's not full up of old connect devices?


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Accessory Media Hub 1XUSB
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Engine Cover - Under Hood
Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
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Style 1 Tether Anchorage Restraint
Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
Tyre Pressure Monitor Sys-DDS
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7J X 17" Style 5 Alloy Wheel
215/50 17" W Rated BSW Tyre
Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
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Cold Start -15 Deg C
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Standard Electric Starter Motor
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Front Spring Load Class-R
Rear Spring Load Class-W
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Brakes-HLA/ESP/TC/ABS
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Standard Foot Pedal Pad Design
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Thatcham Catergory 1 Alarm System
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BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
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Ice Feature Pack 8
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Electrical Outlet
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Less Power Point Plug
With Power Point Plug - Rear
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With Auto Headlamps
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DTRL Lamp Lit In Pos 0 And Pos
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Condi

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17,735 posts

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Friday 12th August 2022
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I presume this is the offending line;

"Less Telephone Preparation Pack"
or
"Less Cell Phone Interface System"

I wonder if it's possible to add that in somehow?

Thanks for the list. Interesting. Lots of "Less" hehe

twing

5,138 posts

136 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Condi said:
I presume this is the offending line;

"Less Telephone Preparation Pack"
or
"Less Cell Phone Interface System"

I wonder if it's possible to add that in somehow?

Thanks for the list. Interesting. Lots of "Less" hehe
have you got a microphone anywhere? Just checking as ETIS can be a fker when it comes to B/T - they word in in so many different ways and may not mention it at all if it's part of the Sony unit

Dogwatch

6,259 posts

227 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Condi said:
Sync was around then I think? Pretty sure it was. Other Mk3 Focus's had v1 sync and then the facelift models had mk2 sync I believe.

Reg is ET12CZF

This is what the radio looks like. Certainly appears as if it should have phone connection!

Thank you.

That’s the head I have on my ‘11 plate Focus platinum. Actually a basic platinum spec if that makes any sense as it doesn’t have all the goodies such as heated seats. However it does Bluetooth to my phone. I luckily printed off the VIN spec before Mr Ford got all coy about it and that says “ BT/VC phone interface + USB Connect”, the USB socket is in the glove box. Also has voice control which I’ve never tried!
With that spec radio I would have expected Bluetooth functionality as non platinum models had a different radio front.

Condi

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Friday 12th August 2022
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twing said:
have you got a microphone anywhere?
Not sure, where might it be? The car was a Ford demonstrator Titanium X model with lots of extras like heated seats, DAB, auto box etc. I would have expected B/T to be there, but maybe not.

IJWS15

1,913 posts

90 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Wife had 2 bog standard Titaniums between 2009 and 15 with that head unit, both had bluetooth. Only extras we paid for were the spare and the fancy red metallic paint she wanted.

twing

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136 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Stupid question but do you have the option to turn the B/T on in the menu?

Condi

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Friday 12th August 2022
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Not a stupid question, but yes. I have a "bluetooth" box I can tick and untick. There doesn't seem to be any other options though, like a previous list of paired phones or anything like that.

Condi

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Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Just to come back to this, I tried using the aux port on the car yesterday and that didn't work either, just a bog standard cable from the phones audio jack into the cars aux port. Is there any chance a data interface or something has failed? I've had the fuse for the radio out and the handbook says that included Bluetooth module etc, and the fuse was fine. Unless there is a separate one, but I can't see it in the book?

Condi

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Thursday 8th September 2022
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I may as well keep updating this...

The car went into Ford this morning who deduced that the Bluetooth Control Module had failed, and offered to replace it for £550! Very kind of them....

Quick look on eBay and they're available for £35.

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/185539133599?mkcid=16&...

However, can anyone tell me where the module lives on the car and how to access it please?

Condi

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Thursday 22nd September 2022
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And..... finally....

The problem was a failed Bluetooth module, which apparently is not all that uncommon. It lives behind the heater controls, and wasn't a difficult job to do really. Remove radio, remove HVAC which was a bit fiddly and involved lifting up the gear lever surround, then just swap the old one out for the new one, and all good to go. Panels went back easily enough, only thing broken was a little clip on the USB cable, although it should stay where it is without any trouble.

Total cost to fix £30 for a second hand Bluetooth module, and half an hour of time. Quote from Ford, £550!!!

sociopath

3,433 posts

71 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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£30 for the part, £100 Labour, the rest - having access to Ford service info on how to do it without Google or PH