Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost PowerShift - Mk7 vs Mk8
Discussion
My missus had a Mk7 17 plate Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost PowerShift Titanium from new until about August last year, when she replaced it with a Mk8 version.
The Mk8 is nicer in almost every way - looks decent in ST-Line spec in Chrome BLue, much improved interior, really good full LED headlights, B&O stereo etc.... but it feels like a completely different car as far as the drive train is concerned.
The engine sounds coarse, it's less keen to rev, and it just feels less torquey and less responsive on the throttle unless you press much further into the pedal travel - I don't know if the latter is just a mapping issue, but it's very noticeable.
The gearbox also behaves differently. It's refuses to let the engine use it's torque and insists on changing down at any hint of pressing the accelerator, when it would be quite capable of pulling away comfortable without changing down. it's bloody annoying. Again, poor mapping...?
Before she bought the car, she asked me if it was the same engine and gearbox as her previous Fiesta, which she really liked driving. I assumed it would be, so I told her more than likely, yes. Now she's a little disappointed in it, and I feel a bit bad for her. The previous car was far nicer to actually drive.
Does anyone know if this anything to do with WLTP changes? Or is it actually a difference in hardware/software etc? Can anything be done about it (dealer software updates, aftermarket mapping etc)?
The Mk8 is nicer in almost every way - looks decent in ST-Line spec in Chrome BLue, much improved interior, really good full LED headlights, B&O stereo etc.... but it feels like a completely different car as far as the drive train is concerned.
The engine sounds coarse, it's less keen to rev, and it just feels less torquey and less responsive on the throttle unless you press much further into the pedal travel - I don't know if the latter is just a mapping issue, but it's very noticeable.
The gearbox also behaves differently. It's refuses to let the engine use it's torque and insists on changing down at any hint of pressing the accelerator, when it would be quite capable of pulling away comfortable without changing down. it's bloody annoying. Again, poor mapping...?
Before she bought the car, she asked me if it was the same engine and gearbox as her previous Fiesta, which she really liked driving. I assumed it would be, so I told her more than likely, yes. Now she's a little disappointed in it, and I feel a bit bad for her. The previous car was far nicer to actually drive.
Does anyone know if this anything to do with WLTP changes? Or is it actually a difference in hardware/software etc? Can anything be done about it (dealer software updates, aftermarket mapping etc)?
Don`t know about these two Fiesta`s but my wife changed from a 15 plate Fiesta powershift to a 68 plate EcoSport powershift and she hated it, like you say it was all to eager to change down and wouldn't`t change from 1st to 2nd until 3000RPM was dialed in - horrible little thing.
We were told by the dealers the EcoSport used a torque converter type clutch and that was to blame, also other owners had complained of the strange behavior.
We were told by the dealers the EcoSport used a torque converter type clutch and that was to blame, also other owners had complained of the strange behavior.
StevecRS said:
Don`t know about these two Fiesta`s but my wife changed from a 15 plate Fiesta powershift to a 68 plate EcoSport powershift and she hated it, like you say it was all to eager to change down and wouldn't`t change from 1st to 2nd until 3000RPM was dialed in - horrible little thing.
We were told by the dealers the EcoSport used a torque converter type clutch and that was to blame, also other owners had complained of the strange behavior.
Thanks for the reply. Interesting that you've been disappointed with the new car also.We were told by the dealers the EcoSport used a torque converter type clutch and that was to blame, also other owners had complained of the strange behavior.
The box in the wife's new Fiesta is definitely still a twin clutch auto (DSG, DCT type thing) and not a torque converter (according to the internet anyway). Her first Fiesta was a 61 plate which had a 4 speed torque converter and it was terrible.
Just seems odd that a car only 2 years apart from the previous one, with the same sized engine, the same power output and supposedly the same gearbox should drive so differently.
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