Mk3 Focus Cornering Lights
Discussion
Does a Mk3 Focus Titanium X have cornering lights? I bought one last year and have never noticed any extra illumination when turning the steering wheel but have read a few threads (not on PH) saying that it should.
I wonder if the bulbs have blown and not been replaced. I need to replace the HID bulbs soon so may well take a look while doing those bulbs. It's supposedly a H1 for cornering so at least I know what to look for in the cluster.
I wonder if the bulbs have blown and not been replaced. I need to replace the HID bulbs soon so may well take a look while doing those bulbs. It's supposedly a H1 for cornering so at least I know what to look for in the cluster.
Its important not to confuse cornering lights with adaptive lights.
Cornering lights on the Focus are static Halogen bulbs(H1 I believe) which illuminate at city speeds on the side which the steering wheel is turned towards, whereas adaptive lighting is where the whole beam moves in the direction of which way the car is turning.
Cornering lights are a standard feature of Bi-Xenons which are standard on all Mk.3 Titanium X
Adaptive Bi-Xenons were introduced with the Mk.3 facelift and are standard on Titanium X.
The adaptive part where the beam moves only operates when the auto light setting is selected.
I have owned both pre and post facelift Mk.3 Focus fitted with Bi-Xenons and as far as I remember the cornering lights operated on both without auto lights being selected.
Cornering lights on the Focus are static Halogen bulbs(H1 I believe) which illuminate at city speeds on the side which the steering wheel is turned towards, whereas adaptive lighting is where the whole beam moves in the direction of which way the car is turning.
Cornering lights are a standard feature of Bi-Xenons which are standard on all Mk.3 Titanium X
Adaptive Bi-Xenons were introduced with the Mk.3 facelift and are standard on Titanium X.
The adaptive part where the beam moves only operates when the auto light setting is selected.
I have owned both pre and post facelift Mk.3 Focus fitted with Bi-Xenons and as far as I remember the cornering lights operated on both without auto lights being selected.
Edited by Ron240 on Thursday 19th December 15:57
Howard- said:
Podie said:
You have to be on "auto lights" mode for the cornering lights to work - turn the wheel and you should notice them (quite clearly!)
That's not the case with the cornering lights on my mk4 Mondeo. I'm struggling to think why it would be necessary for the Focus? In fact the dynamic (lights don't move unless in the "auto" position either.
Podie said:
In fact the dynamic (lights don't move unless in the "auto" position either.
Yes as stated the adaptive lights will not operate unless auto lights have been selected, but don't forget that cornering lights were a feature on the Focus Titanium X and ST3 before adaptive lights were available.I have detailed it best I can in my previous post and although I cannot swear to it, I believe the cornering lights operated without auto lights being active.
I never used auto lights on either of my Focus models.
Thanks for all the replies. I used to have a mk4 Mondeo Tit X with static cornering lights (HID headlights) and the extra illumination was definitely noticeable.
When I change the bulbs I’ll also locate these H1s and do them at the same time. To confirm I do have the HID lights so should have the cornering lights.
When I change the bulbs I’ll also locate these H1s and do them at the same time. To confirm I do have the HID lights so should have the cornering lights.
Looking at the above diagram with the cornering lights I am assuming it is taken from an owners manual for the facelift Mk.3, because I have a pdf of the 2014 model and although the exact same diagram is in it, it makes no mention of auto lamps needing to be turned on.
It doesn't matter though....
One thing seems strange though.....both H1 bulbs blowing at the same time.
I looked to see if there was a specific fuse listed for the cornering lamps but couldn't find one.
Just an idea because I'm wondering if there was any changes made to the headlamp cluster from the early Mk.3's like yours......the H1 bulbs are clearly visible when looking into the front of the headlamps.....so have you looked and confirmed that they are definitely there?
Anyway....hope you get it sorted.
It doesn't matter though....
One thing seems strange though.....both H1 bulbs blowing at the same time.
I looked to see if there was a specific fuse listed for the cornering lamps but couldn't find one.
Just an idea because I'm wondering if there was any changes made to the headlamp cluster from the early Mk.3's like yours......the H1 bulbs are clearly visible when looking into the front of the headlamps.....so have you looked and confirmed that they are definitely there?
Anyway....hope you get it sorted.
Edited by Ron240 on Thursday 19th December 23:06
Hi Ron240, I've not yet looked but that would be a good starting point! Positionally, I'm assuming they'll be inboard based on my last car, fair assumption?
I bought the car last November, it could be that the previous owner couldn't be bothered replacing the bulbs as it was still legal and was a nice to have, rather than a necessity. I also think that both bulbs going together is normal. Bulbs are very repeatable in their manufacture, if the bulbs went in together it's fair to assume they have a very similar life expectancy and therefore go at the same time.
I know it's not like a headlamp when they both operate for the exact same number of hours but I'd have though the number of left and right turns I make (thus turning on the bulb) to be fairly close.
Thanks for all the help so far on this, I just need to make a decision on which (HID) bulbs to get now! Osram Xenarc Nightbreaker Unlimited (£152.99 for a pair
) or a Xenarc Classic for £95.98. Damn, HIDs are expensive!
I bought the car last November, it could be that the previous owner couldn't be bothered replacing the bulbs as it was still legal and was a nice to have, rather than a necessity. I also think that both bulbs going together is normal. Bulbs are very repeatable in their manufacture, if the bulbs went in together it's fair to assume they have a very similar life expectancy and therefore go at the same time.
I know it's not like a headlamp when they both operate for the exact same number of hours but I'd have though the number of left and right turns I make (thus turning on the bulb) to be fairly close.
Thanks for all the help so far on this, I just need to make a decision on which (HID) bulbs to get now! Osram Xenarc Nightbreaker Unlimited (£152.99 for a pair
) or a Xenarc Classic for £95.98. Damn, HIDs are expensive!Ron240 said:
Looking at the above diagram with the cornering lights I am assuming it is taken from an owners manual for the facelift Mk.3, because I have a pdf of the 2014 model and although the exact same diagram is in it, it makes no mention of auto lamps needing to be turned on.
It doesn't matter though....
One thing seems strange though.....both H1 bulbs blowing at the same time.
I looked to see if there was a specific fuse listed for the cornering lamps but couldn't find one.
Just an idea because I'm wondering if there was any changes made to the headlamp cluster from the early Mk.3's like yours......the H1 bulbs are clearly visible when looking into the front of the headlamps.....so have you looked and confirmed that they are definitely there?
Anyway....hope you get it sorted.
Yep Mk3.5 (I have an RS)It doesn't matter though....
One thing seems strange though.....both H1 bulbs blowing at the same time.
I looked to see if there was a specific fuse listed for the cornering lamps but couldn't find one.
Just an idea because I'm wondering if there was any changes made to the headlamp cluster from the early Mk.3's like yours......the H1 bulbs are clearly visible when looking into the front of the headlamps.....so have you looked and confirmed that they are definitely there?
Anyway....hope you get it sorted.
Edited by Ron240 on Thursday 19th December 23:06
I went for Osram nightbreaker laster H1 bulbs and they're brilliant.
Word of warning - they're an absolute sod to get in.
JohnWest said:
Were the standard bulbs no good, Podie? I don't imagine you replaced them because they weren't working in a car that new.
Thanks for the word of warning, any advice or tips to help me stay away from the BFH?
Driver's side had blown when I purchased the car. I always replace bulbs in pairs.Thanks for the word of warning, any advice or tips to help me stay away from the BFH?
Podie said:
Yep Mk3.5 (I have an RS)
I went for Osram nightbreaker laster H1 bulbs and they're brilliant.
Word of warning - they're an absolute sod to get in.
Podie, you were right. They were an absolute pig. So much so that I abandoned them for now, just did the HID bulbs. I went for Osram nightbreaker laster H1 bulbs and they're brilliant.
Word of warning - they're an absolute sod to get in.
Though a close inspection of the filament on the bulb currently installed shows no breaks. Maybe it’s more than a bulb that’s defective. I’ll save that fun for another day.
I am assuming you tried to change the bulb with the headlamp in situ?
Removal is the recommended method so it is designed to come out easily with only 2 screws and a bit of manoeuvring.
When I had a 2012 Focus I removed both headlamps and changed all the bulbs. It locates back in the exact same position so no worries about the aim being off in any way.
Removal is the recommended method so it is designed to come out easily with only 2 screws and a bit of manoeuvring.
When I had a 2012 Focus I removed both headlamps and changed all the bulbs. It locates back in the exact same position so no worries about the aim being off in any way.
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