Is the ST (D) out yet?

[Alfa Pete]

My Golf GTD is up for renewal soon and am wondering when the ST diesel goes on sale?
Spec looks pretty decent and with no news yet on whether there will be a mk8 Golf GTD this might suit my needs.

[zetec]

The mk3 diesel has been out for a few years now. The mk4 I am led to believe will be petrol only.

[Alfa Pete]

According to several websites the The MK4 is going to be available as a 190bhp diesel.
The petrol goes on sale in June but does anyone know when the release date is for the diesel?

https://www.carwow.co.uk/ford/focus/news/3573/ford...

[Lemming Train]

Alfa Pete said:

According to several websites the The MK4 is going to be available as a 190bhp diesel.
The petrol goes on sale in June but does anyone know when the release date is for the diesel?

https://www.carwow.co.uk/ford/focus/news/3573/ford...

Are you intending to hand in your Man card, Pete? No respectable PHer would ever buy the coal powered version of a Ford ST (or RS if they made one).

[Ron240]

Presumably the diesel 5 door goes on sale at the same time as the petrol model.
I have not read anything that says otherwise?
The Carwow link above states from £29,495 June 2019, which is the price of the diesel 5 door.
The petrol model starts at £31,995 which IMO is just way too expensive.
Significant discounts will need to be available if the Mk.4 ST is to sell well.

Edited by Ron240 on Sunday 19th May 17:16

[Alfa Pete]

Lemming Train said:

Alfa Pete said:

According to several websites the The MK4 is going to be available as a 190bhp diesel.
The petrol goes on sale in June but does anyone know when the release date is for the diesel?

https://www.carwow.co.uk/ford/focus/news/3573/ford...

Are you intending to hand in your Man card, Pete? No respectable PHer would ever buy the coal powered version of a Ford ST (or RS if they made one).

30k miles a year in a petrol ST would be ruinous! 😱

[Alfa Pete]

Ron240 said:

Presumably the diesel 5 door goes on sale at the same time as the petrol model.
I have not read anything that says otherwise?
The Carwow link above states from £29,495 June 2019, which is the price of the diesel 5 door.
The petrol model starts at £31,995 which IMO is just way too expensive.
Significant discounts will need to be available if the Mk.4 ST is to sell well.

My GTD was about £29k 2.5 years ago. So is the pricing that out ?

Edited by Ron240 on Sunday 19th May 17:16

[Ron240]

Alfa Pete said:

My GTD was about £29k 2.5 years ago. So is the pricing that out ?

Are you asking me if an equivalent diesel Focus should be priced the same as a Golf? If so then I would say no, it should be cheaper.
Your £29k was presumably for the basic model without any optional extras, which is the only way the figure could have any relevance in this case.
I was only speaking about the price of the petrol Mk4 ST though which is most definitely overpriced, in my humble opinion of course.
P.S. Yes I realise there is only one spec at present which is equivalent to the previous ST3, but the price has risen far too much. £30k+ basic puts it into a different league, so that's why I say there will need to be significant discounts available.

Edited by Ron240 on Monday 20th May 19:36

[Zetec-S]

Ron240 said:

re you asking me if an equivalent diesel Focus should be priced the same as a Golf? If so then I would say no, it should be cheaper.
Your £29k was presumably for the basic model without any optional extras, which is the only way the figure could have any relevance in this case.
I was only speaking about the price of the petrol Mk4 ST though which is most definitely overpriced, in my humble opinion of course.
P.S. Yes I realise there is only one spec at present which is equivalent to the previous ST3, but the price has risen far too much. £30k+ basic puts it into a different league, so that's why I say there will need to be significant discounts available.

Last night I ended up watching an old youtube review of the Mk3 ST when it first came out and they were saying prices started from about £22-23k, which I guess is equivalent to around £26k today. So an entry point of about £30k is a significant hike.

I'm sure there'll be decent discounts available on the Mk4 ST once it's been out a while but I am surprised they've dropped the lower spec versions. Surely it would have been a good marketing tactic to have a "basic" spec version available for significantly less than it's rivals, as I imagine once they'd hooked someone in it would be fairly easy to upsell to an ST2 or ST3 as they seem by far the most popular choices in the Mk3.