Ford Ka timing belt

Ford Ka timing belt

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cpas

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247 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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Good evening.

The wife has just potentially purchased a 2009 Ka (2nd generation shape) with the 1.2 engine, but we cannot find any information on the timing belt replacement. It appears that the interval is 48k miles or 4 years, but I cannot find anywhere how much it would cost to get it done, or how easy it is to do.

I know it's not really a PH car (LOL) but does anyone have any experience of this?

Many thanks.

Vince70

1,942 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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Don't know much about the KA2 but couldn't you just look up the cost for a Fiat 500 1.2 as I'm sure it's the same car built in the same factory in a different skin.

cpas

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247 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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I think it is, but I've looked up details on the FIRE engine and can't find anything! I'll try the Ford garage on Monday smile

Rich's Granny

75 posts

178 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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I've just logged into my works 'Autodata' to check this out and it quotes 62500 miles or 60 months for timing belt replacement. It also quotes 2.4 hours to do the job which also includes replacing the water pump as its driven by the timing belt.
Any engine with the water pump driven by the timing belt should have the pump replaced at the same as the belt. Any play in pump bearings or if the pump seizes could be catastrophic otherwise.

cpas

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247 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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Cool. Cheers for that smile

cpas

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Monday 3rd February 2014
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Well, one of my local Ford dealers didn't bother to phone me back with a price, and one dealer wants £300 for the job. The last time I paid somebody to do a timing belt was on a Land Rover Discovery and it's a real pig of a job, and it was only £350, so £300 for a Ka seems a bit steep. I've done several myself and generally can do it in an evening so how difficult a job is it? Ford genuine parts are about £60.

Rich's Granny

75 posts

178 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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cant imagine you'll buy a belt, tensioner and water pump from Fraud for £60.
However if your local one is that cheap let me know. I could do with some bits myself..

cpas

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Rich's Granny said:
cant imagine you'll buy a belt, tensioner and water pump from Fraud for £60.
However if your local one is that cheap let me know. I could do with some bits myself..
According to Ford, I won't need a water pump - they reckon it's driven by the auxiliary belt! I will have a look at the car when we get it and see. £60 was for the belt, tensioner and stretch bolts.

cpas

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Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Two Ford garages have priced £300 and £400 for the job, but neither have said the water pump needs to be replaced! This all seems a bit expensive for a car that's designed to be cheap to run! What's the cost likely to be for a water pump and are any pattern parts worth considering?

shalon

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157 months

Sunday 2nd March 2014
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the fiat punto engine thats in it are easy timing belts to do if youve done them before should manage fine

cpas

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Wednesday 5th March 2014
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shalon said:
the fiat punto engine thats in it are easy timing belts to do if youve done them before should manage fine
Cheers. I'm pretty good at car maintenance so it shouldn't be a problem, but it would be good to know tensioning procedures and torque settings, etc.

cpas

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247 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Good evening. Just a quick catch-up. Now the timing belt is due, we've phoned a few Ford garages and, with the water pump, the price is up to £500!! The Fiat garage wouldn't entertain doing the job!! I can get parts from GSF, including the pump, for around £90. The good news, though, is that Haynes are just about to release a manual - so we have one on order and are going to do the job ourselves smile

Howsthatgarage

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89 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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For those picking up this thread, a few pointers just in case its needed. An honest guy named John suggests that you use FIAT garage because 1.2 engines all built by them. Next point. Partner had a garage do the timing belt. They claimed to have Ford experience. Took them three attempts to get timing right! Two attempts to get the right tools. And after all that, we discover the dash nacel surrounding gear stick coloumn change has been mis-aligned with one lug pointing outwards, not inwards. Cannot say for sure what special tools are needed, but there is reference to a set on eBay. Garage stated that engine configuration has changed slightly and that a "learner" thingy ma jig needed setting. Whatever is required, it doesn't sound particilary easy. If the timing is out, you will know when you get to 70mph because car will then fall back to 50mph from then on. We know because it happened twice. Car was in garage for a total of three weeks and two courtesy cars to help out!