G10 Article in ClassicCars magaizne........
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As he says, cautiously, only four were made but some historians say it was even fewer. You're right, there were only two original ones, the roadster which was raced by Meek, subsequently became a coupe and is now in the USA. The other one, a coupe, went to the USA with its owner in the 60s and has disappeared. Heseltine says 'many survivors (G11s) have been turned into ersatz G10s'. Quite so, although 'many' is a slight exaggeration, as there weren't many G11s in the first place...
Geoff
Geoff
A few spare chassis though, Geoff 
As for G11 being not many either, the 'original' G11 'Coupe' numbers built were the same as the G10, two.
I, as everyone knows (I think!), have No. 2
I'm looking for No. 1 (again) - several of us have tried to find it to no avail over many years, but I am convinced it is out there...
Went hot this weekend when I had a call and thought I'd cracked it but it turned out to be a Scimitar GT Coupe
So if anyone overhears a conversation like 'ole Bert still has that old red plastic sports car - Italian I think? - in his barn, ain't moved for nigh on 40 years' LET ME KNOW!
As for G11 being not many either, the 'original' G11 'Coupe' numbers built were the same as the G10, two.
I, as everyone knows (I think!), have No. 2
I'm looking for No. 1 (again) - several of us have tried to find it to no avail over many years, but I am convinced it is out there...
Went hot this weekend when I had a call and thought I'd cracked it but it turned out to be a Scimitar GT Coupe
So if anyone overhears a conversation like 'ole Bert still has that old red plastic sports car - Italian I think? - in his barn, ain't moved for nigh on 40 years' LET ME KNOW!
Edited by dandarez on Monday 6th July 21:15
dandarez said:
So if anyone overhears a conversation like 'ole Bert still has that old red plastic sports car - Italian I think? - in his barn, ain't moved for nigh on 40 years' LET ME KNOW!
OK, John, that'll be after I've moved it into my barn! Edited by dandarez on Monday 6th July 21:15
Geoff
Hello Don, hope you are ok? Nice to hear from you on here.
No. 6, eh?
Anyone been in contact with Russell M of late? I heard he is living in France.
Didn't he have 4 chassis? I must search out my correspondence with him - he had one left hand drive chassis so I assume that was a G10 one the way he described it. But then my chassis is beefed up at the rear (as original), although it is definitely not a G10 chassis.
And Geoff, if NWA ends up in your barn I might have to put a contract out on you...
ps
I'm after a pair of Frogeye 'rear' over-riders (a-la G10 coupe)- I wanted some years back but prices were stupid. A couple of years back at Stoneleigh one Austin-Healey trader quoted me £50 a newly rechromed pair but I lost the details.
Best quote I've had recently is £120 pair new, so someone is remanufacturing them. Anyone know where I can get some? preferably cheaper of course!
No. 6, eh?
Anyone been in contact with Russell M of late? I heard he is living in France.
Didn't he have 4 chassis? I must search out my correspondence with him - he had one left hand drive chassis so I assume that was a G10 one the way he described it. But then my chassis is beefed up at the rear (as original), although it is definitely not a G10 chassis.
And Geoff, if NWA ends up in your barn I might have to put a contract out on you...
ps
I'm after a pair of Frogeye 'rear' over-riders (a-la G10 coupe)- I wanted some years back but prices were stupid. A couple of years back at Stoneleigh one Austin-Healey trader quoted me £50 a newly rechromed pair but I lost the details.
Best quote I've had recently is £120 pair new, so someone is remanufacturing them. Anyone know where I can get some? preferably cheaper of course!
Yes I know Geoff, incredible!
I can't log on there for some reason?
I hope I can get to NWA before anyone else
There is something a little bit odd about the l/h drive G10 coupe in the USA (which we all assume is JGF - and it has to be that car really), it has the 'slat' alloy-spoke steering wheel of the r/h drive convertible G10, not the original 'hole' alloy-spoke wheel of the l/h drive coupe.
Unless... there were more than the 2 G10s?
Chassis number might help. Surely it would be 001 in either case, coupe and convertible?
I can't log on there for some reason?
I hope I can get to NWA before anyone else
There is something a little bit odd about the l/h drive G10 coupe in the USA (which we all assume is JGF - and it has to be that car really), it has the 'slat' alloy-spoke steering wheel of the r/h drive convertible G10, not the original 'hole' alloy-spoke wheel of the l/h drive coupe.
Unless... there were more than the 2 G10s?
Chassis number might help. Surely it would be 001 in either case, coupe and convertible?
dandarez said:
There is something a little bit odd about the l/h drive G10 coupe in the USA (which we all assume is JGF - and it has to be that car really), it has the 'slat' alloy-spoke steering wheel of the r/h drive convertible G10, not the original 'hole' alloy-spoke wheel of the l/h drive coupe.
Another possibility: guess there is made more than one 'slat' alloy-spoke steering wheel. If the restorer found a photo of the other G10, he would certainly assume that his steering wheel was incorrect and replace it. Bob said he sold JGF to a 'Oil man'. They guy who bought the car was also in the 'oil' business so it's 99 per cent certain this is JGF.
I still find it odd that it has the slat s/wheel, unless it was changed just days before to going to the USA. Why would Ginetta do that?
Also the wheels, which were wires.
Ok, they could have been changed later but not exactly an aftermarket fitment even by Minilite themselves - although Tech-Del did have agents in the US. That slat s/wheel woodrim is a Ginetta one via Motolita I believe, not Mountney, perhaps the original owner got his finger stuck in the 'hole' type wheel and got the slat one!
The magazine road test by Terry Grimwood was just a day or so to the car being shipped out to the US. It definitely had wires fitted then and the round-hole steering wheel etc when tested.
The original buyer could have got the Minilites but there would be another giveaway, apart from chassis number. JGF had the front Frogeye overriders fitted - which were attached by Heath-Robinson (Walklett made) steel brackets.
They are not on this car but surely there would be evidence of the bracket holes or fitting or where the holes were plugged. Also missing is the chrome rad intake surround, again this was fitted into locating holes - is there evidence of them being filled?
What I'm just wondering (hoping) is were there more than 2 G10s? The 'old' story was that there were 4 coupes and 2 convertibles. This was later discounted to the 2 G10s.
It very probably is JGF but we won't know until some of this is checked.
As for the chassis, mine was pretty good except for the floor slats which I had replaced by tubes. Problem is it's bonded!
I still find it odd that it has the slat s/wheel, unless it was changed just days before to going to the USA. Why would Ginetta do that?
Also the wheels, which were wires.
Ok, they could have been changed later but not exactly an aftermarket fitment even by Minilite themselves - although Tech-Del did have agents in the US. That slat s/wheel woodrim is a Ginetta one via Motolita I believe, not Mountney, perhaps the original owner got his finger stuck in the 'hole' type wheel and got the slat one!
The magazine road test by Terry Grimwood was just a day or so to the car being shipped out to the US. It definitely had wires fitted then and the round-hole steering wheel etc when tested.
The original buyer could have got the Minilites but there would be another giveaway, apart from chassis number. JGF had the front Frogeye overriders fitted - which were attached by Heath-Robinson (Walklett made) steel brackets.
They are not on this car but surely there would be evidence of the bracket holes or fitting or where the holes were plugged. Also missing is the chrome rad intake surround, again this was fitted into locating holes - is there evidence of them being filled?
What I'm just wondering (hoping
) is were there more than 2 G10s? The 'old' story was that there were 4 coupes and 2 convertibles. This was later discounted to the 2 G10s.It very probably is JGF but we won't know until some of this is checked.
As for the chassis, mine was pretty good except for the floor slats which I had replaced by tubes. Problem is it's bonded!
Edited by dandarez on Sunday 28th March 15:10
That's gotta be an 'after' mod! Surely?
'Hey, the rear has twin damper/coils, let's do the same on the front!'
In fact, am I getting old, did the G10 actually have dual damper/coilovers at the rear? The 3-litre G21 did, of course. Bill Bennett's cutaway shows single damper coilovers.
Leda coilovers have the adjustable knob type control. Pretty sure the Walkletts never used Leda. Were they around in the 60s? Leda, that is, not the Walkletts.
Just checked, Leda not been going for much more than 20-25 years.
Also, looking again at the rear dual spring/damper set up, the coil springs are different, one looks like it has twice as many coils as the one next to it or one has been 'wound' up. Wonder how that car handled?!!
'Hey, the rear has twin damper/coils, let's do the same on the front!'
In fact, am I getting old, did the G10 actually have dual damper/coilovers at the rear? The 3-litre G21 did, of course. Bill Bennett's cutaway shows single damper coilovers.
Leda coilovers have the adjustable knob type control. Pretty sure the Walkletts never used Leda. Were they around in the 60s? Leda, that is, not the Walkletts.
Just checked, Leda not been going for much more than 20-25 years.
Also, looking again at the rear dual spring/damper set up, the coil springs are different, one looks like it has twice as many coils as the one next to it or one has been 'wound' up. Wonder how that car handled?!!
Edited by dandarez on Saturday 24th April 22:53
Edited by dandarez on Saturday 24th April 23:12
Just been in touch with Trev.
That twin coil set up is ORIGINAL! How amazing is that?
A few knew but thought it was a wind-up.
My G11 had rear lever arms as well as coilovers and I chucked the lever arms over the wall thinking it was mad!
Oh dear.
Still, at least I can get a pair of lever arms easy enough.
Shame on you Walkletts not including a parts manual with each car!
That twin coil set up is ORIGINAL! How amazing is that?
A few knew but thought it was a wind-up.
My G11 had rear lever arms as well as coilovers and I chucked the lever arms over the wall thinking it was mad!
Oh dear.
Still, at least I can get a pair of lever arms easy enough.
Shame on you Walkletts not including a parts manual with each car!
louisee said:
Better get my car properly sorted out before I buy it from you Dan!!!
He he. I'm still waiting on my new windscreen.What other car has ever had a mix of coil shocks and lever arms together on the same axle, eh? I still believe this was an experimental after-mod, but what do I know!
But then it had a laminated one-off Royal Doulton windscreen in the early 60s. How many cars had laminated screens at that time?
And Autocar slagged Ginetta off in 1990 as 'nothing more than a kit-car maker'. Pah!
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