New Ginetta website

[jamesG20V6]

Very Professional.
Good to see Nigel behind the wheel of two ginettas.

[dandarez]

I have to agree.
That road G50 looks very tempting. Will it work?
They get the TBA price right (in the old Ginetta tradition) and 'winner' could be the word. Certainly looks right now.

Will Clarkson and co be allowed in it? Strange how it's coming to fruition so soon after the 'what about Ginetta?' bit on TGear.

However, regards the new website, the 'History' section is a little muddled.
quote:
'The G4 model ...aided by the new Ford engines which gave it the necessary performance to firstly beat the MGB’s and TR’s before taking on and winning against such exotica as the Jaguar 3.8’s.'

Uhh? The G4 didn't compete with Bs and TRs ...nor E-types (that was the G10).
The G4 became the adversary of Lotus because it was a Lotus-beater!!

quote:
'Success with the G4 prompted ever more ambitious designs and further success with the Imp powered G15 and the Chrysler 1725 powered G21. Both cars underwent full type approval testing and were available as kits or factory built cars.'
Not correct.
Yes, the G15 was available as kit & factory built, but the G21 was 'never' a kit, it was only ever available fully built.

Edited by dandarez on Saturday 29th November 00:52

[911hillclimber]

I've just gone over to the site.
Just my opinion, and it is brand new but I feel it is missing quite a lot out.

I assume the Ginetta buyer is a petrol head, techie, and wants to know everything about the car on offer.

Based on that broad assumption shouldn't there be pics on chassis, specs, options and the smaller pics be enlarged when clicked on to see greater detail?

The Dare site is a bit limited (by today's standards of web design) but carries a great deal of detail (chassis factory shots and spec sheets with detail.

Over time it will grow I'm sure, but to promote the G50 road car against the opposition you need to make it far more tempting, ie on road/track video clips.

Graham.

[dandarez]

Must confess I was clicking on pics to enlarge!
Still think the tempting thing will be the price.
Price is everything.

[captainsensible]

i love the way it 'de personalises' the whole ginetta history - not one word in the history bit about the talented individuals that shaped the brand i.e. Ivor, Trevers, Mark etc - (the upside to that is no mention of Phaff!). Tomlinson is the only name mentioned in the whole history - funny that - but cleverly put together words that 'greys outs' the Ginetta of the past. Shame.

[911hillclimber]

Question:

Why would you buy a G50 road car?

History
Results
Individualism
Heritage
Engineering proven in the raceing over time
Quality

You can put all those virtues to Porsche, TVR, Lotus etc.

How do you tell/convince the buyer to take a chance, have the adventure, experience the thrill of a unique fast and sharp sports coupe?
esp when it is a long forgotten name?

The site must answer this and in a very convincing way.

The Porsche 'pull' is mighty to say the least, but they are common now. lotus? Beyond the Elise they are a minor player. However, is the Lotus buyer the Ginetta man?
I doubt he is the Porsche guy.

[Broomsticklady]

Here's a question - I saw a Porsche Cayman advertised on PH recently for £21,995, which starts to make a G50 look awful dear to anyone by a die-hard enthusiast of the G-marque.......

[geeeman]

Ginetta will always be for real sports car enthusiasts, whether its a DARE or a G50. Dont think Ginetta would ever appeal much to your average Porsche man, but hopefully can temp Lotus guys away..

[911hillclimber]

Totally agree. The Lotus guy is the market.
The elise is a small nimble car all delicate and light (nothing wrong with that).
The G50 comes across as a 'big brother' to the Elise, more the GT than a rapid a to B car.

I wish Ginetta all the luck it deserves. Must be very tough doing a specialist car today.

[Snapper7]

Well I am one Lotus Guy it would tempt, if only I could find one that was not rusted....

I have started to look at Opel GT's instead because I can't find a G4.

Given the price of Zetec engines these days I could not justify the cost of a new G4. Given the number of not that old G4s I have seen I would be concerned at ordering a new one given the way I have seen rust eating away at the chassis.

hmmm Problems

[911hillclimber]

No excuses for having a rusty chassis nowadays with all the magic potions available.
The Heritage MGB (etc) bodies are dipped and all that for protection. Doubt it adds much weight to the car so why not do it (and sell the fact!)

[nicktowe]

911hillclimber said:

No excuses for having a rusty chassis nowadays with all the magic potions available.
The Heritage MGB (etc) bodies are dipped and all that for protection. Doubt it adds much weight to the car so why not do it (and sell the fact!)

Mind you, a nice holey paper doily of a chassis is a great weight saver

[dandarez]

Bit odd when you think most of all the last Walklett cars, including the kits, were galvanised. Raises the point, is the G50 chassis just painted?

Edited by dandarez on Thursday 4th December 22:03

[geeeman]

not sure but think there may be an issue with chassis distortion when galvanizing? However, Dare can do powder coating of the chassis which offers very good protection over normal painting. The club sport orange car has a powder coated chassis i believe

[jamesG20V6]

My G20 chassis was zinc dipped then powder coated over. Still looks like new.