Ginetta 50th Sat 19th July Mallory
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What a shame there isnt much enthusiasm for attending events from most ginetta owners.. Just got back from Lemans Classic, with nearly every possible classic marque represented
The club parking area had a huge selection of classics, for example around 30 marcos from the Uk which is huge for a small marque
On the Ginetta front, i saw only one car, a white G15.
I know Ginetta never raced at Le mans but the event is a celebration of classic cars, and there were many car clubs there without a le mans history. If the old models arent seen at events then they will fall out of populraity in the future. I see the same story at other events i go to.
So for Ginetta owners to not be enthused about the 50th is a real shame...
The club parking area had a huge selection of classics, for example around 30 marcos from the Uk which is huge for a small marque
On the Ginetta front, i saw only one car, a white G15.
I know Ginetta never raced at Le mans but the event is a celebration of classic cars, and there were many car clubs there without a le mans history. If the old models arent seen at events then they will fall out of populraity in the future. I see the same story at other events i go to.
So for Ginetta owners to not be enthused about the 50th is a real shame...
geeeman said:
What a shame there isnt much enthusiasm for attending events from most ginetta owners.. Just got back from Lemans Classic, with nearly every possible classic marque represented
The club parking area had a huge selection of classics, for example around 30 marcos from the Uk which is huge for a small marque
On the Ginetta front, i saw only one car, a white G15.
I know Ginetta never raced at Le mans but the event is a celebration of classic cars, and there were many car clubs there without a le mans history. If the old models arent seen at events then they will fall out of populraity in the future. I see the same story at other events i go to.
So for Ginetta owners to not be enthused about the 50th is a real shame...
I was planning to go to the Classic Le Mans but redundancy has meant that I have to be careful with my cash for the time being. I am enthused about Ginettas 50th and the marque as a whole, but its a shame that the club couldn't arrange track access for us next weekend.The club parking area had a huge selection of classics, for example around 30 marcos from the Uk which is huge for a small marque
On the Ginetta front, i saw only one car, a white G15.
I know Ginetta never raced at Le mans but the event is a celebration of classic cars, and there were many car clubs there without a le mans history. If the old models arent seen at events then they will fall out of populraity in the future. I see the same story at other events i go to.
So for Ginetta owners to not be enthused about the 50th is a real shame...
People won't take their cars to events abroad eg classic le mans unless the club take steps to publicise it. I know its a small club, and that causes problems.
Also i hope it won't be long before Ginetta race at Le Mans, the G50 has potential.
i totally agree that the club have much to do with the poor attendance of Ginettas in events.
It is all down to the club to encourage owners to events and meets, so the cars can be driven and also appreciated by others
Other classic car clubs seem to put more effort into promoting events and meets
It is all down to the club to encourage owners to events and meets, so the cars can be driven and also appreciated by others
Other classic car clubs seem to put more effort into promoting events and meets
geeeman said:
i totally agree that the club have much to do with the poor attendance of Ginettas in events.
It is all down to the club to encourage owners to events and meets, so the cars can be driven and also appreciated by others
Other classic car clubs seem to put more effort into promoting events and meets
The Events Coordinator post is available on the committee, why dont you put your name forward to rectify some of the clubs shortcomings?It is all down to the club to encourage owners to events and meets, so the cars can be driven and also appreciated by others
Other classic car clubs seem to put more effort into promoting events and meets
I'm not trying to have a dig at anyone and I'm sure there are lots of Ginetta owners out there who would like to go to these events. A few problems I can see are that a lot of people don’t have the internet, the club has been without a webmaster for a long time, the Newsmag is now quarterly, lack of an events coordinator, limited regional support and people don’t want to drive the length of the country in their pride and joy. The biggest problem is the website, it needs to have a bolder look, regularly updated, more technical info, important dates advertised with more info, etc, etc. I for one would like to have a go at the Ginetta Owners Club Speed Championships but the lack of info on this puts me off, all I can find are the regulations and entry form. What is needed is a single PDF document with info on the costs, equipment, applying to the MSA for the licences, entry form, regulations, track guides, safety and some FAQ. If the club did this then more people might be willing to have a go.
Spleeble said:
I'm not trying to have a dig at anyone and I'm sure there are lots of Ginetta owners out there who would like to go to these events. A few problems I can see are that a lot of people don’t have the internet, the club has been without a webmaster for a long time, the Newsmag is now quarterly, lack of an events coordinator, limited regional support and people don’t want to drive the length of the country in their pride and joy. The biggest problem is the website, it needs to have a bolder look, regularly updated, more technical info, important dates advertised with more info, etc, etc. I for one would like to have a go at the Ginetta Owners Club Speed Championships but the lack of info on this puts me off, all I can find are the regulations and entry form. What is needed is a single PDF document with info on the costs, equipment, applying to the MSA for the licences, entry form, regulations, track guides, safety and some FAQ. If the club did this then more people might be willing to have a go.
I agree, the website is poor and generally un-interesting, there is a distinct lack of information available to members let alone the general public.What does the evnts coordinator post involve? I have struggled to find out.
I think the current committee are keen and committed, but somethime I think maybe more imageination needs to be applied to the website and the events the club arranges etc. Certainly more could be made of the Ginetta Speed Championship which has events around the country, and could be a focus for meets etc.
I think there are 3 posts available. What they need to do is give a brief job description in the Newsmag as people are a bit scared of taking on too much and want to know what they’re required to do.
The website is the shop front for the Club so it needs to be better.
The Ginetta Speed Championship seems to be the biggest event the owners club runs so they should do more to promote it, there only seems to be a few competitors. I like your idea of using it as a basis for meets, I’m going to try and turn up to the one at Gurston on the 14th September.
The website is the shop front for the Club so it needs to be better.
The Ginetta Speed Championship seems to be the biggest event the owners club runs so they should do more to promote it, there only seems to be a few competitors. I like your idea of using it as a basis for meets, I’m going to try and turn up to the one at Gurston on the 14th September.
So far attendances at the 50th 'do's' have not been good, so I hear. I confess to not attending them but that's due to home and business.
I'm not going to criticise anyone, having been there, however, the problem
as I see it, not just with GOC but a number of clubs, is the political infighting that takes place. And with today's more than ever hectic lifestyles, the last thing anyone who agrees to give up valuable and precious time to take on a voluntary post, is to be given stick and no empathy. A club imo should be run for involvement of like-minded individuals, not run with a stab-in-the-back mindset. I am not implying for one minute the current club is run this way, but memories linger.
Think I could have pulled dozens of knives out of my back - even long after I'd no involvement! But I'm thick skinned. Others may not be. So why would they put their head on the block? Exactly. Life can be bloody hard enough as it is.
That said, perhaps it ought to be added - as I've not seen it anywhere else - apparently over 200 are coming on Saturday. Maybe this can be confirmed. I have been in touch with a number of 'old' (not seen for a long time) Ginetta friends and they're going too so hopefully the turnout will be much better than some are anticipating. No track time but you can't have it all.
I'm not going to criticise anyone, having been there, however, the problem
as I see it, not just with GOC but a number of clubs, is the political infighting that takes place. And with today's more than ever hectic lifestyles, the last thing anyone who agrees to give up valuable and precious time to take on a voluntary post, is to be given stick and no empathy. A club imo should be run for involvement of like-minded individuals, not run with a stab-in-the-back mindset. I am not implying for one minute the current club is run this way, but memories linger.
Think I could have pulled dozens of knives out of my back - even long after I'd no involvement! But I'm thick skinned. Others may not be. So why would they put their head on the block? Exactly. Life can be bloody hard enough as it is.
That said, perhaps it ought to be added - as I've not seen it anywhere else - apparently over 200 are coming on Saturday. Maybe this can be confirmed. I have been in touch with a number of 'old' (not seen for a long time) Ginetta friends and they're going too so hopefully the turnout will be much better than some are anticipating. No track time but you can't have it all.
geeeman said:
how about local area meets for owners to go along to and a club area at general events like the silverstone classic where owners can display their cars.
Ive already organised the ace cafe monthly meets but there hasnt been great attendance as yet. Not many Ginetta owners in london?
I would love to do Ace cafe, but its just too far from Gloucestershire for a couple of hours on an evening.Ive already organised the ace cafe monthly meets but there hasnt been great attendance as yet. Not many Ginetta owners in london?
dandarez said:
So far attendances at the 50th 'do's' have not been good, so I hear. I confess to not attending them but that's due to home and business.
I'm not going to criticise anyone, having been there, however, the problem
as I see it, not just with GOC but a number of clubs, is the political infighting that takes place. And with today's more than ever hectic lifestyles, the last thing anyone who agrees to give up valuable and precious time to take on a voluntary post, is to be given stick and no empathy. A club imo should be run for involvement of like-minded individuals, not run with a stab-in-the-back mindset. I am not implying for one minute the current club is run this way, but memories linger.
Think I could have pulled dozens of knives out of my back - even long after I'd no involvement! But I'm thick skinned. Others may not be. So why would they put their head on the block? Exactly. Life can be bloody hard enough as it is.
That said, perhaps it ought to be added - as I've not seen it anywhere else - apparently over 200 are coming on Saturday. Maybe this can be confirmed. I have been in touch with a number of 'old' (not seen for a long time) Ginetta friends and they're going too so hopefully the turnout will be much better than some are anticipating. No track time but you can't have it all.
I think the political in fightiung at the GOC has stopped, and I do appreciated the efforts the Committee put in, in reality for a small marque I am sure that its hard to please all of the members as all of the Committee are volunteers putting their time in for free.I'm not going to criticise anyone, having been there, however, the problem
as I see it, not just with GOC but a number of clubs, is the political infighting that takes place. And with today's more than ever hectic lifestyles, the last thing anyone who agrees to give up valuable and precious time to take on a voluntary post, is to be given stick and no empathy. A club imo should be run for involvement of like-minded individuals, not run with a stab-in-the-back mindset. I am not implying for one minute the current club is run this way, but memories linger.
Think I could have pulled dozens of knives out of my back - even long after I'd no involvement! But I'm thick skinned. Others may not be. So why would they put their head on the block? Exactly. Life can be bloody hard enough as it is.
That said, perhaps it ought to be added - as I've not seen it anywhere else - apparently over 200 are coming on Saturday. Maybe this can be confirmed. I have been in touch with a number of 'old' (not seen for a long time) Ginetta friends and they're going too so hopefully the turnout will be much better than some are anticipating. No track time but you can't have it all.
I will probabbly be there on saturday, and maybe if as many Ginetta owners go as possible it may spark a revival.
I realise the in-fighting has stopped, I was trying to say how hard it is for them to get new people to stand.
And I personally think the website is quite good, it's just so under used.
Proven by how many come on here to discuss things!
The future for the cars is probably better than it's been for years, with the classic side under Spadge with the LNT backing, and LNT themselves have certainly made modern Ginetta hit the mark. If Dare can produce something new as well to assure their future (although myself I still think the market for their G4 and 12 would keep them going).
All it needs then is a lively, healthy club that's on the ball.
And I personally think the website is quite good, it's just so under used.
Proven by how many come on here to discuss things!
The future for the cars is probably better than it's been for years, with the classic side under Spadge with the LNT backing, and LNT themselves have certainly made modern Ginetta hit the mark. If Dare can produce something new as well to assure their future (although myself I still think the market for their G4 and 12 would keep them going).
All it needs then is a lively, healthy club that's on the ball.
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