I want a G27 but need to do some homework.

I want a G27 but need to do some homework.

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MollyHouse

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64 posts

159 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Can anyone point me in the right direction where i will be able to find info on Ginetta and G27 in particular. Thanks if you can help.

blueg33

38,487 posts

231 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Ginetta owners club is probably your best bet, but there isn't that much info around. If Ginetta Heritage are still going they may have some info, but I recall that there was an issue with them and Ginetta.

In my experience you won't get much out of Ginetta themselves about the models before LNT's acquisition.

330p4

668 posts

237 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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GOC forum but you need to be a member to post what do you want to know about them
Ian

MollyHouse

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64 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Just what differences exist for each of the various series - was it just cosmetics, headlights etc or is there more under the skin - and what to look for, good and bad, when viewing. Then theres the G27r as well......
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Edited by MollyHouse on Tuesday 22 May 08:39

blueg33

38,487 posts

231 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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MollyHouse said:
Just what differences exist for each of the various series - was it just cosmetics, headlights etc or is there more under the skin - and what to look for, good and bad, when viewing. Then theres the G27r as well......
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Edited by MollyHouse on Tuesday 22 May 08:39
I am aware that some have IRS and some do not, not sure about the rest. Engines vary too

330p4

668 posts

237 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Certainly a couple of G4 series 4 and early G27 had the option of a Jag IRS as opposed to the live axle if you are considering a 27 I would suggest you will find an IRS more comfortable the latter cars using ford diff etc then as you say it is down to the looks you prefer as to series III or IV car
Ian

g32turbo

365 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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As the other posters have indicated the main choice is between the live axle or IRS cars. Engines vary across the both chassis types with Ford Zetec and Pinto being the most popular but a variety of others out there such as Vauxhall 16V, Triumph, Rover V8. Apart from the chassis variations the main difference come down bonnet/headlamp options though these can be interchangeable with not too much effort.

I'd start with looking at yourself, if you're over 6 feet tall you may find the car difficult to live with and if you're a little "broad in the beam" you should really consider the later IRS cars as the cockpit has extra width.

There is some info on the build of my G27 at the website link in my PH profile. Plenty of pics of the rolling chassis. Though the car was built with a Pinto engine it now has a new 2.0 Zetec on carbs.

quantum_man

266 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I think the Zetec's a great engine for the G27. There's a blue series 3 for sale at the minute which looks fairly good to me, registered on a P plate.

Would suggest buying one that's been registered and not go down the part built project route (speaking from previous kit car experience) unless you can pick something up very cheap!

Where are you located? Happy to show you mine if you want an idea of dimensions...

MollyHouse

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64 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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If a car has a chassis number and a reg, then must it have been i/sva'd?

I have been looking at this one

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3876048.htm

and have e-mailed the seller re what still needs done to get the 95% finished up to 100%. I was hoping that it had already been tested with the minimum of items fitted and the finishing was cosmetics - like roof fittings etc. Anyone know it?

The closed loop fuel injection seems like a good idea as the last time i had anything with dcoe's it was 15 years ago and they drank like a Glaswegian.

330p4

668 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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You get the chassis number stamped into the chassis I think that advert is offering a plate you can buy but not sure the car is registered. Also unless you can register new or acquire enough points for age related from don't which is unlikely then you could not transfer that plate. Would check with the owner first
Ian

GinG15

501 posts

178 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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MollyHouse said:
If a car has a chassis number and a reg, then must it have been i/sva'd?

I have been looking at this one

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3876048.htm

and have e-mailed the seller re what still needs done to get the 95% finished up to 100%. I was hoping that it had already been tested with the minimum of items fitted and the finishing was cosmetics - like roof fittings etc. Anyone know it?

The closed loop fuel injection seems like a good idea as the last time i had anything with dcoe's it was 15 years ago and they drank like a Glaswegian.
according to this sentence in the advert:
"This engine is dated April 1995 and so is subject to the lesser emission test, although it doesn't matter because the Dunnell injection system will walk through the SVA test."

i would say the car was never registered and therefore needs an IVA test.


MollyHouse

Original Poster:

64 posts

159 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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I have never taken a car through IVA but did have a look at what's required, costs and other info. Seems a bit daunting! Thats put me off that one a bit.


quantum_man

266 posts

217 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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I put a "all parts included to complete" Quantum 2+2 through the old SVA test in 2004 and it was a complete nightmare, resulting in 2 tests at a cost of over £100 each, plus about 200 miles of driving to the test centre and back... wouldn't do it again! They were SO strict.

Plus all the hassle of getting it registered with DVLA!

I'd personally go for the other blue G27 for sale, but then again I prefer the look of the Series 3 smile

Would be interested in seeing what one with IRS is like to drive though.


GinG15

501 posts

178 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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take the blue,non registered one, additionally you need to buy a G26 or G32..and the IVA problem should be sorted.

MollyHouse

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64 posts

159 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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scullduggery somehow? Complete newbie to the world of kits and iva's so perhaps you can send me an e-mail explaining.

What sort of mileage are you guys on 1800/2000 Zetecs with DCOE's getting?



Edited by MollyHouse on Friday 25th May 17:51

GinG15

501 posts

178 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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why thinking about the mileage you can get from kitcar....kitcar=funcar, so money or fuel economy should not be the first thing in mind.

MollyHouse

Original Poster:

64 posts

159 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Bad mileage is like marriage. You can rub along with it for the first while OK, but then it all gets a bit irksome.

quantum_man

266 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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MollyHouse said:
scullduggery somehow? Complete newbie to the world of kits and iva's so perhaps you can send me an e-mail explaining.

What sort of mileage are you guys on 1800/2000 Zetecs with DCOE's getting?



Edited by MollyHouse on Friday 25th May 17:51
22-25mpg or thereabouts.

blueg33

38,487 posts

231 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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My V8 G33 would get up to 28mpg on a motorway run, 23 to Le Mans (with plenty of fast driving) and as low as 6-8mpg on a track and hillclimbs. But average was about 18mpg.

quantum_man

266 posts

217 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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MollyHouse, did you take the plunge into G27 ownership? I see that the two blue G27's are no longer for sale...