PROJECT MUTINY!
Discussion
The 7th May sees an opportunity for us drivers to show the goverment waht it thinks of congestion charging, parking taxes when we take public transport and the refusal of Blair to acknowledge the 1,000,000 signatures against road pricing.
Listed on the thread below is all the local councils that will be running elections on 7 May where there is currently a Labour seat or no overall control.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=354762&f=23&h=0
I would like to suggest we move in on those seats in the Thames Valley and fill the streets with disgruntled motorists on the 6th May to show the electoral register and Labour scum what the drivers of the land think them taking away or hard earned reddies, right to privacy and overall liberty!!
From what I can see, we should all pile into Reading on the morning concerned, causing maximum disruption and handing out material highlighting the plight of drivers, with details of how we can ALL take action against such persecution.
Of you can't do Reading then the following are all under NOC:
Basingstoke & Deane
Slough
Woking
I would be interested to see what sort of support others here would like to offer.
Reading is the best fit IMO since they're also pushing through the one way IDR against public opinion.
Just a thought, the Saturday morning would cause far more disruption and have a £ value against it - also if it was worth reporting then it would be picked up by Sunday papers.
Just a thought, the Saturday morning would cause far more disruption and have a £ value against it - also if it was worth reporting then it would be picked up by Sunday papers.
Edited by oogieboogie on Saturday 10th February 15:24
Word of warning. Plod read this forum, as do many others. What gets discussed here must be non-specific and the protest must use legitimate means. I suggest a private group or forum, off Pistonheads.com, for any discussion of direct action.
Additionally, stopping voters getting to polling stations may be counterproductive. We want Labour out, not retaining control!
Additionally, stopping voters getting to polling stations may be counterproductive. We want Labour out, not retaining control!
Edited by Witchfinder on Saturday 10th February 17:24
Witchfinder said:
We want Labour out, not retaining control!
Absolutely. What is needed is to encourage the sleeping giant that is the British Public to wake from its ten year doze and act - by going to the polls and voting.
What is an excellent idea, mind, is to exercise one's democratic rights. Inform the public:
LABOUR HATES MOTORISTS.
LABOUR HATES YOUR CAR.
LABOUR HATES YOUR MOTORING FREEDOM.
DOES LABOUR HATE YOU?
Witchfinder said:
Word of warning. Plod read this forum, as do many others. What gets discussed here must be non-specific and the protest must use legitimate means. I suggest a private group or forum, off Pistonheads.com, for any discussion of direct action.
Additionally, stopping voters getting to polling stations may be counterproductive. We want Labour out, not retaining control!
Additionally, stopping voters getting to polling stations may be counterproductive. We want Labour out, not retaining control!
Edited by Witchfinder on Saturday 10th February 17:24
Agreed. Hence my suggestion that any action occurs on 6th May. And I fully support legitimate means of showing disapproval of the way the current government is coducting itself. My immediate thought was descending on Reading on the above date, fully bannered up so our feelings were made apparent to all - nothing illegal about driving your car into Reading (yet).
So we shouldn't care if plod reads this or not. In fact, if the protest had support then I would envisage making the BiB aware of our intentions so they can ensure public safety.
:-)
So who else is in? I can't do this alone and make an impact.
By the way, thoughts on all cars carrying the following...?
Edited by Hendry on Sunday 11th February 15:23
Well the feeling on GG is that what hit home hardest is taking a long convoy into major towns and cities (preferable Red, like Reading) along B roads that will not be highly priced should such a scheme succeed. This would highlight to all what would most likely be the reality should it all succeed - those who have to drive just rat run throught the back roads to get to where they HAVE TO GO (work normally).
So if we follow suit, who knows a suitable route into Reading using B roads only? What is the route from Henley through to Caversham? That would nobble Caversham bridge.
i cant believe what with all the fuss people are making theres only a few replys.i expect eeryones happy for yet another tax?
whatever goes on i,ll be there.paying what they want to use the road plus the usual tax,insurance,fuel duty etc would fcuking cripple me,i,m not having it and if it means not putting a box in my car and going to one of their non existant prison cells the so be it
i,ll keep an eye on this thread
whatever goes on i,ll be there.paying what they want to use the road plus the usual tax,insurance,fuel duty etc would fcuking cripple me,i,m not having it and if it means not putting a box in my car and going to one of their non existant prison cells the so be it
i,ll keep an eye on this thread
hendry said:
Well the feeling on GG is that what hit home hardest is taking a long convoy into major towns and cities (preferable Red, like Reading) along B roads that will not be highly priced should such a scheme succeed. This would highlight to all what would most likely be the reality should it all succeed - those who have to drive just rat run throught the back roads to get to where they HAVE TO GO (work normally).
So if we follow suit, who knows a suitable route into Reading using B roads only? What is the route from Henley through to Caversham? That would nobble Caversham bridge.
To be honest, the traffic problems are so bad here already and there is massive resentment against the council (due to IDR, A33 traffic lights and bins) that people who are already going to turn have already made their mind up. The rest don't speak English or will vote Labour to their graves.
Sorry but in my opinion this is totally misguided. Anything that disrupts others' lives is going to be viewed negatively, irrespective of the reasons behind it.
You run the risk of alienating precisely those people you're wanting to educate or influence.
People are inherently selfish. Doesn't matter if you're campaigning against child molestors getting light sentences, or something equally as "obvious" - hold up people on their way to work, the pub, polling stations, whatever and you WILL piss them off and they won't care why you're doing it.
You run the risk of alienating precisely those people you're wanting to educate or influence.
People are inherently selfish. Doesn't matter if you're campaigning against child molestors getting light sentences, or something equally as "obvious" - hold up people on their way to work, the pub, polling stations, whatever and you WILL piss them off and they won't care why you're doing it.
Edited by graham@edinburgh on Monday 12th February 01:47
graham@edinburgh said:
Sorry but in my opinion this is totally misguided. Anything that disrupts others' lives is going to be viewed negatively, irrespective of the reasons behind it.
You run the risk of alienating precisely those people you're wanting to educate or influence.
People are inherently selfish. Doesn't matter if you're campaigning against child molestors getting light sentences, or something equally as "obvious" - hold up people on their way to work, the pub, polling stations, whatever and you WILL piss them off and they won't care why you're doing it.
You run the risk of alienating precisely those people you're wanting to educate or influence.
People are inherently selfish. Doesn't matter if you're campaigning against child molestors getting light sentences, or something equally as "obvious" - hold up people on their way to work, the pub, polling stations, whatever and you WILL piss them off and they won't care why you're doing it.
Edited by graham@edinburgh on Monday 12th February 01:47
See my previous note about prior publicity - and I like the fact that such a convoy would be showing the public what life would be like if Labour pressed ahead and taxed major roads: be inconvenienced for a day now and act, or don't and live life like that every day.
All the same, the point is to get public support to boot Labour's ass, so what is your alternative suggestion then that would achieve that aim and be better received?
hendry, we could bribe one of the labour candidates in Reading, and influence them via bribes which could be hookers, coke or money , or even bribe Alexander himself, there must be a way!
as Labour have read all these logical views of distain from the public, they dont care what we think, and are dictating their policies on us, as this agenda has now been set, if we marched in the streets nothing would end, we need to get Alexander directly, bribe him, or hypnotize him to change his mind
doing convoys outside, you need a massive protest for that, with a million cars, a few cars at Reading wouldnt be suitable IMO.
as Labour have read all these logical views of distain from the public, they dont care what we think, and are dictating their policies on us, as this agenda has now been set, if we marched in the streets nothing would end, we need to get Alexander directly, bribe him, or hypnotize him to change his mind
doing convoys outside, you need a massive protest for that, with a million cars, a few cars at Reading wouldnt be suitable IMO.
Edited by k321 on Monday 12th February 16:02
I have had anotther flash of inspiration...
It is well documented that the young no longer vote. What do young people like? Fast cars!
How about those who care make their time and cars available to cart some young people off to the polling stations in the hope (ahem!) that they vote against Labour? We have the jounry to convince them that Labour wants everyone with a nice car bankrupted - act now yoof before they nobble you too!
hendry said:
All the same, the point is to get public support to boot Labour's ass, so what is your alternative suggestion then that would achieve that aim and be better received?
I don't have one I'm afraid. Make no mistake, I agree with your sentiments, I just don't believe the method will have the desired effect.
And it's nothnig to do with disrupting MY day either as I'm now north of the border
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