New Speed Camera's On The A24 Mickleham Bends

[Been]

Tonight as you join the A24 at the beginning of the Mickleham bends I've noticed 3 black poles with yellow camera like things on top but a different shape to anything I've seen before. There's then another set of black poles with nothing on yet down by the Ryka's roundabout. Are they implementing average speed cameras along there now!?

[Graveworm]

I went down there yesterday as well and there was a sign saying average speed cameras from 2nd July. The nearside lane was coned off on both carriageways and they were installing them from the A246 Co-op roundabout to Ryka's Cafe. B2209 Details here

[croyde]

Uho. There goes my overtaking after being stuck behind numpties after coming off the M25 to Dorking.

Wondered why that bit of 2 lane was coned off.

[kinhill]

My Sunday morning routes need to change.

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file...

Every day, more and more a nanny state.

[Jagmanv12]

kinhill said:

My Sunday morning routes need to change.

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file...

Every day, more and more a nanny state.

I remember as a child passenger that road was unlimited in the pre-70 limit days. There have not been any new developments, houses, schools,etc on that piece of road therefore there is no need for the speed reduction and certainly not a load of cameras.

[Stephanie Plum]

It's entirely down to the bikers imo.

There have been a couple of fatals there as well over the years.

[Mr Tidy]

How miserable!

I remember going to Worthing in my Dad's Hillman Minx in the late 60s and at the bottom of the hill on the Leatherhead by-pass you turned left onto the dual carriageway with the NSL (that now has hatchings all over one lane) and a 50 limit! :headbang:

If a 1964 Hillman Minx could apparently cope with 2 lanes and the NSL, plus a café with a parking area built into the rock-face, why are current cars considered unable to cope with a couple of wonderful curves?

Back in 1978 I had an ex-school class-mate who lived just up the road from the Hand-in-Hand who also had an RD250, as well as a brother with a KH250, so I used to meet up with them most Sundays - NSL round the Mickies on an RD250 wasn't exactly challenging (but was a real buzz when you were trying)!

Then we would sit on the bank just above the "burger van" in the bottom car park (now Rykas) and watch people with Z1 Kawasakis pulling wheelies before going for a blast along the A24.

Maybe I'm lucky to be old?

[kinhill]

It really is the final nail in the coffin for the Mickleham Bends.

[Mr Tidy]

kinhill said:

It really is the final nail in the coffin for the Mickleham Bends.

I hope 10CC don't read this!

[norm4n]

Watch out these go live today, July 2nd 2018

[croyde]

Ah well. It's annoying anyway from the Leatherhead roundabout as I'm always stuck behind some 30mph moron or a big lorry.

Though it's going to ruin that feeling when it goes dual carriageway just before Boxhill where I can overtake, or sadly undertake as moron won't pull over.

Good job I don't live down there anymore.

I think I've become institutionaliased as I've got so used to sticking to the 20mph limits in London that when I'm allowed to do 30mph, it feels too fast

[Biker 1]

How many cameras are there southbound from the junction of the A246, & does anybody know their precise locations??
I fear I may not have been concentrating.......

[Stephanie Plum]

Two. One just after the Texaco roundabout and then another just before Rykers Cafe.

[Been]

Thats true however one will the 'entrance' and one will be the 'exit' to the average speed trap

[Biker 1]

I think I've answered my own question.
Zoom into the map on the following web page, & it shows 4 cameras, i.e. a start & end camera on BOTH directions, located near Rykas & Texaco: https://www.scdb.info/en/karte/

Bother - I hope I'm not in trouble....

[Stephanie Plum]

Been said:

Thats true however one will the 'entrance' and one will be the 'exit' to the average speed trap

They both do both. There’s a big central verge and the carriageways take quite different paths for a large part of the route. Therefore there is an entry and exit at each end. Easier to understand when you’ve driven it.

[fatboy18]

So how this all started, the first attempt at calming speed was the regular copper with a handheld speed camera.

Next came the painting out of the inside lane on dual carriageway from the Leatherhead Texaco roundabout to just past the Village of Mickleham forcing traffic into the right lane and stopped motorcycles being able to open up the throttle a bit. also causing queuing behind some numpty doing 30 in a 40

This then left the last bit of dual carriageway down from the Mickleham bend to Rikas cafe carpark and the Box Hill roundabout.

So now Dorking Council / Surrey are going to fk that up too.

Quite frankly anyone who even thinks of Voting for these councliers (mostly Conservitrve) needs their arses kicking.

So with the advent of Average Speed scameras I wonder it they will bother opening up the dual carriageway as it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and mid 80s?

Doubt it as they will then have to maintain it

Having fun is dead in this country. RIP the motorist

[kinhill]

And they planted HUGE bushes/trees in the middle of the dual carriageway opposite Rykas, so the spectators couldn't run across the road any more to watch the motorbikes perform wheelies. Gone are the days when it was fun (and dangerous!).

Now they're proposing on extending the average speed cameras further south down the A24.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/avera...

[AlexRS2782]

50 appears to have become the new 70 tbh - although i guess with it being the go to speed on managed motorways it was always going to filter out to the A roads / dc's as time goes on - by that time we'll all be used to it as i've lost count of the number of people that plod along at a steady 50 now (even in the middle lane) regardless of whether it's decent flowing 70 odd traffic on a motorway or DC

Within the next year it looks like the entire A31 from Guildford to Farnham could well be dropped to 50 too, as well as the A331 from the Hogs Back to the existing 50 at Frimley - info online suggest those ones appear to be a 60/40 split between reducing pollution / reducing speeding.

Mind you single lane speeds seem to be getting the 10mph drop too. Some of the B roads in the rural country, near where my grandparents used to live, have been 60 for years and perfectly safe to drive at those speeds with very few (if any) accidents. Nearly all of them are down to 50 on the straight bits and 40 on the bits where the corners start. Ironically most of those drops were introduced shortly after sections of those roads had finally been repaired / properly resurfaced

[Stephanie Plum]

I believe the drops down to 50 and 40 are are often due to the maintenance requirements being less the lower the speed? I could be wrong but I’m sure I remember reading that potholes and general repairs assume less urgency the lower the speed limit.