M25 Closed, 10 to 11, M3 solid back to Camberley
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Yep, saw this an hour ago http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/several...
My mum and dad were stuck on the A3 for over two hours because of the diverted traffic and a series of small shunts by idiots who can't drive in traffic... 
Mum said that as soon as the traffic slowed to less than 20mph about 50% of drivers seemed to be on the phone and she saw countless emergency stops and near misses... Good to see the new £100 fine is putting people off using the phone then!!
Mum said that as soon as the traffic slowed to less than 20mph about 50% of drivers seemed to be on the phone and she saw countless emergency stops and near misses... Good to see the new £100 fine is putting people off using the phone then!!
Totally agree with D14 AYS.
I was two hours just getting out of Cobham Services.
If you check the link above you can see traffic stopped in both directions .Why ?, If it was for the helicopter Where is it ?
and why could nt the transit in the outside lane be dragged into the nearside to at least free up two lanes. You ve got photographic evidence to show the position
There needs to be a revue of procedures, it s too easy for emergency services to shut down lanes for far longer than neccessary .
I was two hours just getting out of Cobham Services.
If you check the link above you can see traffic stopped in both directions .Why ?, If it was for the helicopter Where is it ?
and why could nt the transit in the outside lane be dragged into the nearside to at least free up two lanes. You ve got photographic evidence to show the position
There needs to be a revue of procedures, it s too easy for emergency services to shut down lanes for far longer than neccessary .
There was a tanker stopped a little further up the M25 that looked like it had pinballed all the cars and vans out of the way. At least one poor chap got badly injured and the air ambulance had to land on the motorway to scoop him up.
I'm pretty sure if it was you on that stretcher you wouldn't give a flying f
k that theres a tailback.
I do agree they need to get much quicker at dragging all the vehicles out of the way once all the injured or dead are taken away. They spend too much time sodding about with tape measures and cameras. Use the cctv cameras to reconstruct , if they aren't there make a best guess from the vehicle damage and witnesses without causing half the south east to grind to a halt for the rest of the day.
Took me 1.5 hrs to crawl 6 miles home yesterday but I still don't mind too much if it helped the injured chap survive.
I'm pretty sure if it was you on that stretcher you wouldn't give a flying f
k that theres a tailback.I do agree they need to get much quicker at dragging all the vehicles out of the way once all the injured or dead are taken away. They spend too much time sodding about with tape measures and cameras. Use the cctv cameras to reconstruct , if they aren't there make a best guess from the vehicle damage and witnesses without causing half the south east to grind to a halt for the rest of the day.
Took me 1.5 hrs to crawl 6 miles home yesterday but I still don't mind too much if it helped the injured chap survive.
It's interesting how people feel about these incidents. It is very frustrating to crawl along for hours and I do get frustrated too but my thoughts always go to the people involved in these incidents. It seems these days that we have these serious incidents quite frequently and I think it's down to the volume of traffic and very poor (and sometimes selfish) driving standards but what ever the cause these accidents are normally life changing to the people involved and their family's and I think it's justified to do some investigation work. Could it be make quicker? Maybe, probably, hopefully the will be improved with new technology etc.
How long is "too long" to sort? I'm no expert, which is why I won't speculate that people who actually do this job for a living could do it a lot better.
All I do know is that it doesn't take much to screw up the traffic around Guildford. Once the A3 is full up, everything is buggered.
All I do know is that it doesn't take much to screw up the traffic around Guildford. Once the A3 is full up, everything is buggered.
Trust me the highways agency want the police to open up asap, as it costs them to keep it closed.
Everything is done as quick as possible, I believe yesterday was an extreme case due to the number of vehicles and the need for the helicopter to land.
It was handed over to the highways agency and then it's up to them to open the road again.
Everything is done as quick as possible, I believe yesterday was an extreme case due to the number of vehicles and the need for the helicopter to land.
It was handed over to the highways agency and then it's up to them to open the road again.
Furry Exocet said:
Trust me the highways agency want the police to open up asap, as it costs them to keep it closed.
Everything is done as quick as possible, I believe yesterday was an extreme case due to the number of vehicles and the need for the helicopter to land.
It was handed over to the highways agency and then it's up to them to open the road again.
The pictures seemed to show the helicopter landed on the carraigeway with the accident but is seems the other side had been closed too - in case a helicopter wanted to land over there as well?Everything is done as quick as possible, I believe yesterday was an extreme case due to the number of vehicles and the need for the helicopter to land.
It was handed over to the highways agency and then it's up to them to open the road again.
heebeegeetee said:
The pictures seemed to show the helicopter landed on the carraigeway with the accident but is seems the other side had been closed too - in case a helicopter wanted to land over there as well?
The opposite carriageway is always temporarily held whilst it lands or takes off just incase it goes wrong!! 
(Similar reason why when it lands at the hospitals on the pads they have a fire crew at the pad)
A colleague phoned me as he was stuck in the queue between J10 and 11, so unable to get onto the A3 as he'd passed it.
Looking at the traffic cameras I noticed the authorities had closed the clockwise on ramp and cars were going up it onto the A3. Presumably these were cars from the back of the queue. Whilst they then got caught in the A3 backlog I thought how sensible of the police/highways to help get these people moving.
As has been posted by Dean087 the accident could be life-changing to those involved.
A couple of years ago on my way to Goodwood I passed a fatal involving a German registered biker. Obviously it is bad enough that somebody has died but the family, friends, etc had to deal with their loss and getting the body back to Germany, etc.
Looking at the traffic cameras I noticed the authorities had closed the clockwise on ramp and cars were going up it onto the A3. Presumably these were cars from the back of the queue. Whilst they then got caught in the A3 backlog I thought how sensible of the police/highways to help get these people moving.
As has been posted by Dean087 the accident could be life-changing to those involved.
A couple of years ago on my way to Goodwood I passed a fatal involving a German registered biker. Obviously it is bad enough that somebody has died but the family, friends, etc had to deal with their loss and getting the body back to Germany, etc.
Jagmanv12 said:
A colleague phoned me as he was stuck in the queue between J10 and 11, so unable to get onto the A3 as he'd passed it.
Looking at the traffic cameras I noticed the authorities had closed the clockwise on ramp and cars were going up it onto the A3. Presumably these were cars from the back of the queue. Whilst they then got caught in the A3 backlog I thought how sensible of the police/highways to help get these people moving.
As has been posted by Dean087 the accident could be life-changing to those involved.
A couple of years ago on my way to Goodwood I passed a fatal involving a German registered biker. Obviously it is bad enough that somebody has died but the family, friends, etc had to deal with their loss and getting the body back to Germany, etc.
If the closure is going to for a while, then turn arounds are started. It needs to be carefully controlled to ensure no conflicting traffic etc.Looking at the traffic cameras I noticed the authorities had closed the clockwise on ramp and cars were going up it onto the A3. Presumably these were cars from the back of the queue. Whilst they then got caught in the A3 backlog I thought how sensible of the police/highways to help get these people moving.
As has been posted by Dean087 the accident could be life-changing to those involved.
A couple of years ago on my way to Goodwood I passed a fatal involving a German registered biker. Obviously it is bad enough that somebody has died but the family, friends, etc had to deal with their loss and getting the body back to Germany, etc.
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