7 mile lane closure
Discussion
7 mile lane (B2016) is going to be closed from the 7th of September until Mid-November. It's going to be messy I think.
I'm currently looking at the map of closures and diversions from South East Water and it's almost impossible to decifer.
http://www.mereworthpc.kentparishes.gov.uk/default...
If I get any useful information I'll post it up.
I'm currently looking at the map of closures and diversions from South East Water and it's almost impossible to decifer.
http://www.mereworthpc.kentparishes.gov.uk/default...
If I get any useful information I'll post it up.
Taking this point as the centre:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=tn158lw&oe=UTF-8...
1st phase is closure from there to the A20. 2nd phase is from there to A228.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=tn158lw&oe=UTF-8...
1st phase is closure from there to the A20. 2nd phase is from there to A228.
I've just driven all the way along 7 mile lane. The "Closed Road" signs are still up, there are a few cone chicanes, but:
1. There are no workmen
2. There is no machinery, or holes
3. The repaired (and re-painted) patch where the new water main was installed is finished.
It's ridiculous. If you completely close a major road for works, you've got to finish them as quickly as possible and re-open the road.
In this case they've either finished and not taken down the closed signs, or are taking a little break from the works. Unacceptable either way.
If anyone wants the email of the person responsible at South East Water I can post it up (providing that doesn't break any posting rules of course)
1. There are no workmen
2. There is no machinery, or holes
3. The repaired (and re-painted) patch where the new water main was installed is finished.
It's ridiculous. If you completely close a major road for works, you've got to finish them as quickly as possible and re-open the road.
In this case they've either finished and not taken down the closed signs, or are taking a little break from the works. Unacceptable either way.
If anyone wants the email of the person responsible at South East Water I can post it up (providing that doesn't break any posting rules of course)
The may have to do one length of pipe, hence have to open up a long stretch at a time. The water pipes come in long reels so you got lay the full length in one hit to avoid loads of joins.
Also worth noting that when tarmac is being laid, the larger the patch at one time the less joints. Less joints the less chance of water getting under wearing/base course and therefore less likely to have potholes in the near future - the have to put up all the traffic management and disrupt the road again!
Reason for not clearing guarding from a road straight away is time taken for tarmac to cure.
If it's a type 2 road with 285mm tarmac (i.e. f
king busy!), can take 12 hours to properly go off, especially if it's a modern surface like SMA (stone mastic asphalt, is the open textured stuff they are putting back most places now).
If it's been longer than a day to clear, it's either down to logistics (sheer mass of bits to move, perhaps clearing them would cause a lot more disruption to traffic) or bad planning of works.
Either way there should be courtesy boards up so you can contact whoever is doing the work and give them a hurry up!
Working in streetworks for most of the last decade I have a certain amount of sympathy, but will admit the whole process is contrived, full of red tape, and more recently with TMA implementation a money making scheme for local authorities.
Often issues of traffic management not being cleared promptly are down to the use of subcontractors. With National Grid (now Gas Alliance I believe), they subcontract to Morrison Utility Services, who subcontract to one set of people to dig, and another to reinstate and clear site. Complete logistical nightmare and if one of those companies is delayed (whether legitimately or through incompetancy) hundreds or thousand of road users also get held up!
As said though, it's best to either put up or shut up - either complain to the relevant company or statutory undertaker, or live with road works in knowledge that it *should* be better afterwards...
Also worth noting that when tarmac is being laid, the larger the patch at one time the less joints. Less joints the less chance of water getting under wearing/base course and therefore less likely to have potholes in the near future - the have to put up all the traffic management and disrupt the road again!
Reason for not clearing guarding from a road straight away is time taken for tarmac to cure.
If it's a type 2 road with 285mm tarmac (i.e. f
king busy!), can take 12 hours to properly go off, especially if it's a modern surface like SMA (stone mastic asphalt, is the open textured stuff they are putting back most places now).If it's been longer than a day to clear, it's either down to logistics (sheer mass of bits to move, perhaps clearing them would cause a lot more disruption to traffic) or bad planning of works.
Either way there should be courtesy boards up so you can contact whoever is doing the work and give them a hurry up!
Working in streetworks for most of the last decade I have a certain amount of sympathy, but will admit the whole process is contrived, full of red tape, and more recently with TMA implementation a money making scheme for local authorities.
Often issues of traffic management not being cleared promptly are down to the use of subcontractors. With National Grid (now Gas Alliance I believe), they subcontract to Morrison Utility Services, who subcontract to one set of people to dig, and another to reinstate and clear site. Complete logistical nightmare and if one of those companies is delayed (whether legitimately or through incompetancy) hundreds or thousand of road users also get held up!
As said though, it's best to either put up or shut up - either complain to the relevant company or statutory undertaker, or live with road works in knowledge that it *should* be better afterwards...
GJB said:
7 Mile Lane - Mereworth to Wrotham Heath
Road appears to be open but fairly quiet. Assume a lot of people are unaware and still using an alternative route. No doubt that'll change once news gets around.
About an hour after I emailed the guy in charge asking why it wasn't open, the signs came down (Last wednesday). Apparently it had been finished and passable for a week.Road appears to be open but fairly quiet. Assume a lot of people are unaware and still using an alternative route. No doubt that'll change once news gets around.
Raify said:
GJB said:
7 Mile Lane - Mereworth to Wrotham Heath
Road appears to be open but fairly quiet. Assume a lot of people are unaware and still using an alternative route. No doubt that'll change once news gets around.
About an hour after I emailed the guy in charge asking why it wasn't open, the signs came down (Last wednesday). Apparently it had been finished and passable for a week.Road appears to be open but fairly quiet. Assume a lot of people are unaware and still using an alternative route. No doubt that'll change once news gets around.
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