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1:00am Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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THE first average speed cameras have been installed on the A127, to catch out drivers who break the limit.
A large, T-shaped, yellow post, with several cameras on top, has been set up in the middle of the dual carriageway near the Rayleigh Weir because of concerns about the number of accidents on that stretch of road.
There will be another post installed at the junction with the A132, near Wickford.
They will measure the time a car takes to cover the distance between the two points and will start working from January 2009.
Michael Page, a spokesman for Essex County Council, said: “The introduction of average speed cameras on the A127 is a very positive move.
“It will help to reduce the number of accidents and alleviate congestion during peak times.”
The cameras are the first step in a project to reduce accidents on the road.
The next step will see a 50mph speed limit introduced.
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Your Say YourEchoTechno, Basildon says...
8:43am Wed 3 Dec 08
Great news. At last the selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers will be punished, for being selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers. All roads should have average speed cameras. Though given the way many people still speed through them I'm not sure if they are bright enough to know what it means? The penalty will certainly eductate them soon enough.Great news. At last the selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers will be punished, for being selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers. All roads should have average speed cameras. Though given the way many people still speed through them I'm not sure if they are bright enough to know what it means? The penalty will certainly eductate them soon enough.
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simeo, Prittlewell says...
8:57am Wed 3 Dec 08
These cameras will inevitably bring down the number of accidents. Hopefully they will see that bringing the limit will be pointless and possibly more dangerous and keep it at 70.These cameras will inevitably bring down the number of accidents. Hopefully they will see that bringing the limit will be pointless and possibly more dangerous and keep it at 70.
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The Defender, Rayleigh says...
10:35am Wed 3 Dec 08
Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.
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SARFENDMAN, Rayleigh says...
10:39am Wed 3 Dec 08
At last cameras that will avoid all those arrogant law breaking speed merchants who feel they are above the law, especially those who think themselves cute by breaking hard when seeing a yellow box on a grey pole before hitting the throttle once passed. I'm sure this wont make these speed merchants happy...tough! They will as always gon arguing the case but on this stretch of road the debate is now over. It also sees an end to those fire loving camera burning vandals. At last cameras that will avoid all those arrogant law breaking speed merchants who feel they are above the law, especially those who think themselves cute by breaking hard when seeing a yellow box on a grey pole before hitting the throttle once passed. I'm sure this wont make these speed merchants happy...tough! They will as always gon arguing the case but on this stretch of road the debate is now over. It also sees an end to those fire loving camera burning vandals.
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perini12, Leigh on Sea says...
10:55am Wed 3 Dec 08
The Defender wrote:
Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.
Read the Highway Code!! then you'll know what the speed limit should be[quote][p][bold]The Defender[/bold] wrote: Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.[/p]
[/quote]Read the Highway Code!! then you'll know what the speed limit should be
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PJR, Southend says...
10:57am Wed 3 Dec 08
The Defender wrote:
Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.
Actually, the A127 is classed as a Dual Carriageway, that is a road where the traffic flows in the same direction over two lanes, and is separated by a barrier. The limit here is 70mph National.
it is 60mph on single carriageway roads, or roads where oncoming traffic is only separated by white lines painted in the road, whether two, three or four lanes wide.[quote][p][bold]The Defender[/bold] wrote: Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.[/p]
[/quote]Actually, the A127 is classed as a Dual Carriageway, that is a road where the traffic flows in the same direction over two lanes, and is separated by a barrier. The limit here is 70mph National. it is 60mph on single carriageway roads, or roads where oncoming traffic is only separated by white lines painted in the road, whether two, three or four lanes wide.
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Cockle, Southend says...
12:25pm Wed 3 Dec 08
There will be several more of these SPECS cameras as they will check the average speed over the length of the restriction; there will need to be a camera before and after each junction to create a section in which speed can be monitored without any doubt.
It is also a pity that there is no signage letting everyone know that the cameras are not yet in use. That would have avoided the situation this morning when an accident was narrowly avoided when a car in the outside lane suddenly braked from 70ish to less than 40 when the driver spotted the camera. Regardless of your feelings about the cameras anything which causes sudden severe braking on a fast moving road is a potential accident hazard.There will be several more of these SPECS cameras as they will check the average speed over the length of the restriction; there will need to be a camera before and after each junction to create a section in which speed can be monitored without any doubt. It is also a pity that there is no signage letting everyone know that the cameras are not yet in use. That would have avoided the situation this morning when an accident was narrowly avoided when a car in the outside lane suddenly braked from 70ish to less than 40 when the driver spotted the camera. Regardless of your feelings about the cameras anything which causes sudden severe braking on a fast moving road is a potential accident hazard.
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Cockle, Southend says...
12:33pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Also, judging from some of the comments so far it would appear that a fair number of people are confirming my suspicions that the majority of drivers do not know their Highway Code and probably haven't read a copy since they passed their test.
No wonder speeding is so endemic if people do not know what the correct speed limits are for various types of roads. If they don't know that then it is even less likely that they have a clue about the speed limits which apply to different types of vehicle on the different types of road i.e. a large artic is restricted to 40 on a NSL single carriageway road.Also, judging from some of the comments so far it would appear that a fair number of people are confirming my suspicions that the majority of drivers do not know their Highway Code and probably haven't read a copy since they passed their test. No wonder speeding is so endemic if people do not know what the correct speed limits are for various types of roads. If they don't know that then it is even less likely that they have a clue about the speed limits which apply to different types of vehicle on the different types of road i.e. a large artic is restricted to 40 on a NSL single carriageway road.
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Techno, Basildon says...
12:41pm Wed 3 Dec 08
As they say. Ignorance is no excuse in law. The cameras will certainly help reinforce that fact and it will also force habitual offenders to reconsider their antisocial views on society.As they say. Ignorance is no excuse in law. The cameras will certainly help reinforce that fact and it will also force habitual offenders to reconsider their antisocial views on society.
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APR, Thundersley says...
1:07pm Wed 3 Dec 08
So anyone joining the 127 (Southend bound) from the 130 onwards, won't need to worry ?
I think the idea is good in principle, but I don't think it will have much affect on the speeding chavs.
Although the law isn't enforced, I thought large vans (transit sized) were restricted to 60mph. ?
Only "car derived" vans being being allowed to do 70mph.
Although the police ANPR vans travel at 70mph.
So anyone joining the 127 (Southend bound) from the 130 onwards, won't need to worry ? I think the idea is good in principle, but I don't think it will have much affect on the speeding chavs. Although the law isn't enforced, I thought large vans (transit sized) were restricted to 60mph. ? Only "car derived" vans being being allowed to do 70mph. Although the police ANPR vans travel at 70mph.
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ST 1, says...
1:40pm Wed 3 Dec 08
So these cameras are being installed at the same time that they have just announced improvements to the A127 junctions that will improve safety along this stretch. Obviously the cameras will get all the credit for any reduction in accidents.
The widened slip roads and feeder lanes at the junctions will do more for road safety than a camera ever will.
All types of speed cameras are a sham, they're road policing on the cheap. Unfortunately you get what you pay for.So these cameras are being installed at the same time that they have just announced improvements to the A127 junctions that will improve safety along this stretch. Obviously the cameras will get all the credit for any reduction in accidents. The widened slip roads and feeder lanes at the junctions will do more for road safety than a camera ever will. All types of speed cameras are a sham, they're road policing on the cheap. Unfortunately you get what you pay for.
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thelonewhinger, benfleet says...
2:03pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Will these high tech cameras detect those driving on false plates? Will they stop the driver who dithers along the slip road at 30 mph to emerge into potential 70 mph traffic? Will they catch the flash Harry's who cut you up leaving the outside lane of the A127 for the A130 slip at the last moment?
As usual cameras cameras everywhere and never pause to think.
Will these high tech cameras detect those driving on false plates? Will they stop the driver who dithers along the slip road at 30 mph to emerge into potential 70 mph traffic? Will they catch the flash Harry's who cut you up leaving the outside lane of the A127 for the A130 slip at the last moment? As usual cameras cameras everywhere and never pause to think.
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ShipShape, Basildonk says...
2:21pm Wed 3 Dec 08
That is something..
Those awful drivers who potter along at 45-50mph in the 70mph zones, these drivers cause all sorts of hold-ups as the traffic has to go single file to pass them.
That is something.. Those awful drivers who potter along at 45-50mph in the 70mph zones, these drivers cause all sorts of hold-ups as the traffic has to go single file to pass them.
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thelonewhinger, benfleet says...
2:28pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Steady-on Ship Shape there are many 70 mph zones on the A127 where blind bends, emerging traffic and sheer amount of traffic make anything over 50 mph downright dangerous.
Many is the time that I have had a boy racer shoot by me at 65mph - so fast the draft blew my Kangol cap off!
Where are these blind bends ?
denzel7077, Wickford says...
6:06pm Wed 3 Dec 08
As long as they rid the roads of pompous BMW Audi and Merc drivers - its a win win.Hopefully it will show these are also typically the people who think they are expemt from the mobile phone laws too....
Are these people born with a brain or did they sell them to fund a new prius?
1:00am Wednesday 3rd December 2008
Comments (28) Have your say »
THE first average speed cameras have been installed on the A127, to catch out drivers who break the limit.
A large, T-shaped, yellow post, with several cameras on top, has been set up in the middle of the dual carriageway near the Rayleigh Weir because of concerns about the number of accidents on that stretch of road.
There will be another post installed at the junction with the A132, near Wickford.
They will measure the time a car takes to cover the distance between the two points and will start working from January 2009.
Michael Page, a spokesman for Essex County Council, said: “The introduction of average speed cameras on the A127 is a very positive move.
“It will help to reduce the number of accidents and alleviate congestion during peak times.”
The cameras are the first step in a project to reduce accidents on the road.
The next step will see a 50mph speed limit introduced.
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Your Say YourEchoTechno, Basildon says...
8:43am Wed 3 Dec 08
Great news. At last the selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers will be punished, for being selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers. All roads should have average speed cameras. Though given the way many people still speed through them I'm not sure if they are bright enough to know what it means? The penalty will certainly eductate them soon enough.Great news. At last the selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers will be punished, for being selfish, pig ignorant, terrible drivers. All roads should have average speed cameras. Though given the way many people still speed through them I'm not sure if they are bright enough to know what it means? The penalty will certainly eductate them soon enough.
Report this post »
simeo, Prittlewell says...
8:57am Wed 3 Dec 08
These cameras will inevitably bring down the number of accidents. Hopefully they will see that bringing the limit will be pointless and possibly more dangerous and keep it at 70.These cameras will inevitably bring down the number of accidents. Hopefully they will see that bringing the limit will be pointless and possibly more dangerous and keep it at 70.
Report this post »
The Defender, Rayleigh says...
10:35am Wed 3 Dec 08
Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.
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SARFENDMAN, Rayleigh says...
10:39am Wed 3 Dec 08
At last cameras that will avoid all those arrogant law breaking speed merchants who feel they are above the law, especially those who think themselves cute by breaking hard when seeing a yellow box on a grey pole before hitting the throttle once passed. I'm sure this wont make these speed merchants happy...tough! They will as always gon arguing the case but on this stretch of road the debate is now over. It also sees an end to those fire loving camera burning vandals. At last cameras that will avoid all those arrogant law breaking speed merchants who feel they are above the law, especially those who think themselves cute by breaking hard when seeing a yellow box on a grey pole before hitting the throttle once passed. I'm sure this wont make these speed merchants happy...tough! They will as always gon arguing the case but on this stretch of road the debate is now over. It also sees an end to those fire loving camera burning vandals.
Report this post »
perini12, Leigh on Sea says...
10:55am Wed 3 Dec 08
The Defender wrote:
Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.
Read the Highway Code!! then you'll know what the speed limit should be[quote][p][bold]The Defender[/bold] wrote: Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.[/p]
[/quote]Read the Highway Code!! then you'll know what the speed limit should be
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PJR, Southend says...
10:57am Wed 3 Dec 08
The Defender wrote:
Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.
Actually, the A127 is classed as a Dual Carriageway, that is a road where the traffic flows in the same direction over two lanes, and is separated by a barrier. The limit here is 70mph National.
it is 60mph on single carriageway roads, or roads where oncoming traffic is only separated by white lines painted in the road, whether two, three or four lanes wide.[quote][p][bold]The Defender[/bold] wrote: Actually i have been informed that the limit is supposed to be 60mph (although i and everyone else drives at 70!)Something to do with the spacing of lampposts or something! Basically not a motorway.[/p]
[/quote]Actually, the A127 is classed as a Dual Carriageway, that is a road where the traffic flows in the same direction over two lanes, and is separated by a barrier. The limit here is 70mph National. it is 60mph on single carriageway roads, or roads where oncoming traffic is only separated by white lines painted in the road, whether two, three or four lanes wide.
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Cockle, Southend says...
12:25pm Wed 3 Dec 08
There will be several more of these SPECS cameras as they will check the average speed over the length of the restriction; there will need to be a camera before and after each junction to create a section in which speed can be monitored without any doubt.
It is also a pity that there is no signage letting everyone know that the cameras are not yet in use. That would have avoided the situation this morning when an accident was narrowly avoided when a car in the outside lane suddenly braked from 70ish to less than 40 when the driver spotted the camera. Regardless of your feelings about the cameras anything which causes sudden severe braking on a fast moving road is a potential accident hazard.There will be several more of these SPECS cameras as they will check the average speed over the length of the restriction; there will need to be a camera before and after each junction to create a section in which speed can be monitored without any doubt. It is also a pity that there is no signage letting everyone know that the cameras are not yet in use. That would have avoided the situation this morning when an accident was narrowly avoided when a car in the outside lane suddenly braked from 70ish to less than 40 when the driver spotted the camera. Regardless of your feelings about the cameras anything which causes sudden severe braking on a fast moving road is a potential accident hazard.
Report this post »
Cockle, Southend says...
12:33pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Also, judging from some of the comments so far it would appear that a fair number of people are confirming my suspicions that the majority of drivers do not know their Highway Code and probably haven't read a copy since they passed their test.
No wonder speeding is so endemic if people do not know what the correct speed limits are for various types of roads. If they don't know that then it is even less likely that they have a clue about the speed limits which apply to different types of vehicle on the different types of road i.e. a large artic is restricted to 40 on a NSL single carriageway road.Also, judging from some of the comments so far it would appear that a fair number of people are confirming my suspicions that the majority of drivers do not know their Highway Code and probably haven't read a copy since they passed their test. No wonder speeding is so endemic if people do not know what the correct speed limits are for various types of roads. If they don't know that then it is even less likely that they have a clue about the speed limits which apply to different types of vehicle on the different types of road i.e. a large artic is restricted to 40 on a NSL single carriageway road.
Report this post »
Techno, Basildon says...
12:41pm Wed 3 Dec 08
As they say. Ignorance is no excuse in law. The cameras will certainly help reinforce that fact and it will also force habitual offenders to reconsider their antisocial views on society.As they say. Ignorance is no excuse in law. The cameras will certainly help reinforce that fact and it will also force habitual offenders to reconsider their antisocial views on society.
Report this post »
APR, Thundersley says...
1:07pm Wed 3 Dec 08
So anyone joining the 127 (Southend bound) from the 130 onwards, won't need to worry ?
I think the idea is good in principle, but I don't think it will have much affect on the speeding chavs.
Although the law isn't enforced, I thought large vans (transit sized) were restricted to 60mph. ?
Only "car derived" vans being being allowed to do 70mph.
Although the police ANPR vans travel at 70mph.
So anyone joining the 127 (Southend bound) from the 130 onwards, won't need to worry ? I think the idea is good in principle, but I don't think it will have much affect on the speeding chavs. Although the law isn't enforced, I thought large vans (transit sized) were restricted to 60mph. ? Only "car derived" vans being being allowed to do 70mph. Although the police ANPR vans travel at 70mph.
Report this post »
ST 1, says...
1:40pm Wed 3 Dec 08
So these cameras are being installed at the same time that they have just announced improvements to the A127 junctions that will improve safety along this stretch. Obviously the cameras will get all the credit for any reduction in accidents.
The widened slip roads and feeder lanes at the junctions will do more for road safety than a camera ever will.
All types of speed cameras are a sham, they're road policing on the cheap. Unfortunately you get what you pay for.So these cameras are being installed at the same time that they have just announced improvements to the A127 junctions that will improve safety along this stretch. Obviously the cameras will get all the credit for any reduction in accidents. The widened slip roads and feeder lanes at the junctions will do more for road safety than a camera ever will. All types of speed cameras are a sham, they're road policing on the cheap. Unfortunately you get what you pay for.
Report this post »
thelonewhinger, benfleet says...
2:03pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Will these high tech cameras detect those driving on false plates? Will they stop the driver who dithers along the slip road at 30 mph to emerge into potential 70 mph traffic? Will they catch the flash Harry's who cut you up leaving the outside lane of the A127 for the A130 slip at the last moment?
As usual cameras cameras everywhere and never pause to think.
Will these high tech cameras detect those driving on false plates? Will they stop the driver who dithers along the slip road at 30 mph to emerge into potential 70 mph traffic? Will they catch the flash Harry's who cut you up leaving the outside lane of the A127 for the A130 slip at the last moment? As usual cameras cameras everywhere and never pause to think.
Report this post »
ShipShape, Basildonk says...
2:21pm Wed 3 Dec 08
That is something..
Those awful drivers who potter along at 45-50mph in the 70mph zones, these drivers cause all sorts of hold-ups as the traffic has to go single file to pass them.
That is something.. Those awful drivers who potter along at 45-50mph in the 70mph zones, these drivers cause all sorts of hold-ups as the traffic has to go single file to pass them.
Report this post »
thelonewhinger, benfleet says...
2:28pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Steady-on Ship Shape there are many 70 mph zones on the A127 where blind bends, emerging traffic and sheer amount of traffic make anything over 50 mph downright dangerous.
Many is the time that I have had a boy racer shoot by me at 65mph - so fast the draft blew my Kangol cap off!
Where are these blind bends ?
denzel7077, Wickford says...
6:06pm Wed 3 Dec 08
As long as they rid the roads of pompous BMW Audi and Merc drivers - its a win win.Hopefully it will show these are also typically the people who think they are expemt from the mobile phone laws too....
Are these people born with a brain or did they sell them to fund a new prius?
Ditto above, Christmas day as well so nice clear rd so i wasnt ''hanging about'' phew bit of a relief to have my thoughts confirmed that they have only just gone live, i do rely on my camera system a bit to much and no tell tale bleeps and shout of specs!! to make me panic. Wonder if there would be now?? i will check it out in the near future and let you no.
Paul.
ps pogo alert system blah blah etc etc.
Paul.
ps pogo alert system blah blah etc etc.
Bastid !!!Del 203 said:
Anyone know if the lane changing trick between gantry's actually fools the cameras ?
I expect not
& no, I'm not trying it 
Used to on the older systems. there's been the odd software/hardware update since so it's pot luck if they're running the newer version. I'd expect by now they are...I expect not
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