Warning for those in/near South Woodham Ferrers - Gypos
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Rode past this site yesterday (being careful of the mud all over the road). I suspect its the fall out from Dale Farm (as they have been served their 28 days eviction notice). It looked like 100 plus caravans. Two police cars were there too. Sounds as though they have been shifted from Basildon Council to Chelmsford Council.
chibbard said:
Rode past this site yesterday (being careful of the mud all over the road). I suspect its the fall out from Dale Farm (as they have been served their 28 days eviction notice). It looked like 100 plus caravans. Two police cars were there too. Sounds as though they have been shifted from Basildon Council to Chelmsford Council.
They are nothing to do with the Dale Farm lot.... This is a year meeting of scum bags of rent land off a local farmer who in turn goes away on holiday whilst they stay in the area and steal everything and start fights (like Saturday night in SWF town), this year there are about 3 times more than there 'should' be on the field and hearsay states that they have deceided not to leave in support of the Dale Farm eviction....
Trouble we have is now as the farmer has LET them onto his land for money everyone will have a very hard time getting them off if they deceided not to leave.
It will get to the point when residents will have make them leave....
drewcole81 said:
They are nothing to do with the Dale Farm lot....
Yep. Got a bit more info via the Parish council.It's a religious mission organised by Romanies that tours the country "reaching out to the traveling community". Romanies are a different breed to travelers and generally decent people who look after the places they go. Travelers are not.
This year, the event has attracted far more travelers than last year and is causing major problems in the area. Richardson (the Farmer) has let the field but has contraviened laws that require road signage, traffic management and sanitation requirements for mass gatherings such as this. Whether anything comes of it, who knows?
StevieBee said:
Yep. Got a bit more info via the Parish council.
It's a religious mission organised by Romanies that tours the country "reaching out to the traveling community". Romanies are a different breed to travelers and generally decent people who look after the places they go. Travelers are not.
This year, the event has attracted far more travelers than last year and is causing major problems in the area. Richardson (the Farmer) has let the field but has contraviened laws that require road signage, traffic management and sanitation requirements for mass gatherings such as this. Whether anything comes of it, who knows?
Well we're going to have to put up with them this time, Hopefully Richardson will be fined for any damage caused and made to refuse their 'religious mission '........ in future. It's a religious mission organised by Romanies that tours the country "reaching out to the traveling community". Romanies are a different breed to travelers and generally decent people who look after the places they go. Travelers are not.
This year, the event has attracted far more travelers than last year and is causing major problems in the area. Richardson (the Farmer) has let the field but has contraviened laws that require road signage, traffic management and sanitation requirements for mass gatherings such as this. Whether anything comes of it, who knows?
The law needs to come down on travelers hard and sod off to those do'gooders who think we shouldn't because of their human rights, the travelers don't give a toss about anyone elses human rights so as far as I'm concerned they don't derserve any.
Its unreal how many there are, both there and on literally every road around it for about 5 miles, there easy to spot, they seem to be almost everywhere.
So far i have heard the pubs are all shuting at 6pm due to them fighting, i have heard of them trying to break into houses and cars and i have also seen with my own eyes the f
king crazy overtaking manourves they do when racing down the hill back into woodham (seriously i came from woodham in the tuscan at a spirited rate and luckily i never ever drive without 110% concentration as had i not it would have been a bit messy, there was two cars an audi and merc overtaking just before the bend! )
I have heard of people saying that when the farmer gets back people are going to camp on his land
Problem is that if they refuse to leave then i reckon they would have to get the army in as there are so so many of them.
Just to add the genuine travellers are no problem, generally decent people. Its the fking scum bags who insist on destroying everything, having no regard for any laws and basically causing terror in their wake which are the problem.
So far i have heard the pubs are all shuting at 6pm due to them fighting, i have heard of them trying to break into houses and cars and i have also seen with my own eyes the f
king crazy overtaking manourves they do when racing down the hill back into woodham (seriously i came from woodham in the tuscan at a spirited rate and luckily i never ever drive without 110% concentration as had i not it would have been a bit messy, there was two cars an audi and merc overtaking just before the bend! )I have heard of people saying that when the farmer gets back people are going to camp on his land
Problem is that if they refuse to leave then i reckon they would have to get the army in as there are so so many of them.
Just to add the genuine travellers are no problem, generally decent people. Its the f
king scum bags who insist on destroying everything, having no regard for any laws and basically causing terror in their wake which are the problem.Havering Council used to turn up with a JCB 1/2 hour after s used to pull up. Essential trenches needed to be dug for 'maintainence' in front of all entrances/exists to their illegal camp.....off they went quick smart, total cost? 1/2 a days JCB hire.....thats a Mastercard moment....
s used to pull up. Essential trenches needed to be dug for 'maintainence' in front of all entrances/exists to their illegal camp.....off they went quick smart, total cost? 1/2 a days JCB hire.....thats a Mastercard moment....roofer said:
Havering Council used to turn up with a JCB 1/2 hour after s used to pull up. Essential trenches needed to be dug for 'maintainence' in front of all entrances/exists to their illegal camp.....off they went quick smart, total cost? 1/2 a days JCB hire.....thats a Mastercard moment....
Trenches work s used to pull up. Essential trenches needed to be dug for 'maintainence' in front of all entrances/exists to their illegal camp.....off they went quick smart, total cost? 1/2 a days JCB hire.....thats a Mastercard moment....
....as long as you have all the vehicles in the field at the time.I live on a family farm in East Sussex & we have been invaded three times;
1st time; Went the legal route...waste of time & money
2nd time; Dug trenches, trapped them in
, within 12 hours they where asking us to let them out....one out,all out 
. By trapping them in they can't go garden clearing/tarmacing/thieving etc.3rd time; Took machinery up to dig trenches & the Police tried to arrest my brother saying we would be breaching the p1keys civil rights....unf
ing believable, luckily he was quicker up onto the JCBs roof than 
...in the end they agreed not to arrest him if we moved the machinery away 
In the end we had to hire private baliffs as the Home Office had issued new instructions to the Police, well apart from East Sussex it seams until we produced a copy for them
, allowing the use of baliffs & reasonable force. An eviction notice was issued by the baliffs & on the allotted day Police did turn up to ensure no breach of the peace.My brother & I were waiting with our JCB & Hymac to give the darling little p1keys assistance off our field(legally)
We then spent the rest of the day turning the boundary of the field into a series of trenches reminisant of the Somme rather than rolling English countryside
We never did get any compensation for the padlocked double gates that where smashed to gain access in the first place or subsequent clearing up of garden rubbish, tarmac & human s
t left in the field 
Good luck
Bodders
I was in a well known supermarket in SWF this afternoon. I asked the checkout lady whether she'd had any gypos in today; "earlier" she replied. She went on to say they should be leaving tomorrow...all of them apparently, when prompted by me. Going to France was what she said. France... ? 
Yup, France was what she said...
Yup, France was what she said...
This is political correctness gone mad. PC theory being that if we don’t call them names then we won’t hate them. They’re lovely honest law abiding folk exercising their cultural traditions of redistributing property without notice to the owner. The problem is all in our minds, not in their behaviour. If we don’t think of them as thieves then the PC assumption is that they won’t act like thieves.
Unfortunately for the PC Brigade, English is a living language.
The word Gypsy used to be a noun. I have recently noticed that youths now use Gypsy as a verb in their vernacular.
A noun, for example Gypsy, is used to infer a quality of the subject. Since most people experience Gypsies by their behaviour they tended to attribute associated qualities inferred by their behaviour. Amazingly people have associated their behaviour with theft.
This has resulted in the use of the vernacular use of phraseology like “he Gypsyed it” in lieu of “he stole it”
If people attempt to censor a living language then the language will adapt to fill the void created by the need to describe the qualities of a subject. Either completely new words will come into the lexicon, or meanings of existing words will change over time.
Attempts to censor such words are therefore pointless as the meaning will just shift. The only way to solve this issue is for the behaviour of Gypsies to change so that people no longer associate their behaviour with the activities they currently do.
Unfortunately for the PC Brigade, English is a living language.
The word Gypsy used to be a noun. I have recently noticed that youths now use Gypsy as a verb in their vernacular.
A noun, for example Gypsy, is used to infer a quality of the subject. Since most people experience Gypsies by their behaviour they tended to attribute associated qualities inferred by their behaviour. Amazingly people have associated their behaviour with theft.
This has resulted in the use of the vernacular use of phraseology like “he Gypsyed it” in lieu of “he stole it”
If people attempt to censor a living language then the language will adapt to fill the void created by the need to describe the qualities of a subject. Either completely new words will come into the lexicon, or meanings of existing words will change over time.
Attempts to censor such words are therefore pointless as the meaning will just shift. The only way to solve this issue is for the behaviour of Gypsies to change so that people no longer associate their behaviour with the activities they currently do.
Uncle Fester said:
This is political correctness gone mad. PC theory being that if we don’t call them names then we won’t hate them. They’re lovely honest law abiding folk exercising their cultural traditions of redistributing property without notice to the owner. The problem is all in our minds, not in their behaviour. If we don’t think of them as thieves then the PC assumption is that they won’t act like thieves.
Unfortunately for the PC Brigade, English is a living language.
The word Gypsy used to be a noun. I have recently noticed that youths now use Gypsy as a verb in their vernacular.
A noun, for example Gypsy, is used to infer a quality of the subject. Since most people experience Gypsies by their behaviour they tended to attribute associated qualities inferred by their behaviour. Amazingly people have associated their behaviour with theft.
This has resulted in the use of the vernacular use of phraseology like “he Gypsyed it” in lieu of “he stole it”
If people attempt to censor a living language then the language will adapt to fill the void created by the need to describe the qualities of a subject. Either completely new words will come into the lexicon, or meanings of existing words will change over time.
Attempts to censor such words are therefore pointless as the meaning will just shift. The only way to solve this issue is for the behaviour of Gypsies to change so that people no longer associate their behaviour with the activities they currently do.
On the subject of political correctness, does the same apply to terrorists? Like the above, they are not law abiding, so could they also be protected by this mockery of decent people?Unfortunately for the PC Brigade, English is a living language.
The word Gypsy used to be a noun. I have recently noticed that youths now use Gypsy as a verb in their vernacular.
A noun, for example Gypsy, is used to infer a quality of the subject. Since most people experience Gypsies by their behaviour they tended to attribute associated qualities inferred by their behaviour. Amazingly people have associated their behaviour with theft.
This has resulted in the use of the vernacular use of phraseology like “he Gypsyed it” in lieu of “he stole it”
If people attempt to censor a living language then the language will adapt to fill the void created by the need to describe the qualities of a subject. Either completely new words will come into the lexicon, or meanings of existing words will change over time.
Attempts to censor such words are therefore pointless as the meaning will just shift. The only way to solve this issue is for the behaviour of Gypsies to change so that people no longer associate their behaviour with the activities they currently do.
IndyAndy777 said:
On the subject of political correctness, does the same apply to terrorists? Like the above, they are not law abiding, so could they also be protected by this mockery of decent people?
In a way, traditionally individuals or groups are portrayed differently by the semantics of the language used to describe them.One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
Asked to define the difference between a Submarine and a U-Boat, Winston Churchill explained that a Submarine was that courageous and intrepid craft which sink their shipping. A U-Boat was those cowardly and dastardly craft which sink ours.
Terrorists and criminals behave in the way they do because they believe it is correct for them to do so. The specific motivation varies. It may be they believe in a religion which has told them to convert the world by any means. They may have been raised in a cultural group which regards property belonging to anyone outside their travelling community as theirs to take.
Humans think in a language. There is interplay between the two. Thoughts construct language; language structures and limit thought. Until western philosophy was translated into Japanese, there was no Japanese word for ‘individual’ it was literally a foreign concept. Therefore there was no need for a word to describe a thought they didn’t conceptualise.
You cannot really understand a people without understanding the language. The careful use of diplomatic language has its place in negotiations.
Attempts to proscribe the use of certain words are an attempt to shape the mental processes of individuals and society as a whole.
It is a nothing short of an attempt to control minds to promote a particular agenda. Most vested interest groups do it to some extent, although some do it more deliberately than others.
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