Emigating to New Zealand
Discussion
Morning all,
A possible transfer opportunity has come up at work, leading me to look into the possibility of moving to NZ.
Some of my closest friends wax lyrical about the country and over dinner last night the missus and I have been somewhat convinced to have a genuine look into the possibility of moving.
With me being a hardcore PH'er I must prioritise things, so my first question is how can I get my Elise 111S over there, or would it be cheaper to sell in the UK and buy one in NZ?
I am very pleased to see an active PH community, so I certainly feel I could fit in pretty quickly!
Apologies if this has been covered before.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
A possible transfer opportunity has come up at work, leading me to look into the possibility of moving to NZ.
Some of my closest friends wax lyrical about the country and over dinner last night the missus and I have been somewhat convinced to have a genuine look into the possibility of moving.
With me being a hardcore PH'er I must prioritise things, so my first question is how can I get my Elise 111S over there, or would it be cheaper to sell in the UK and buy one in NZ?
I am very pleased to see an active PH community, so I certainly feel I could fit in pretty quickly!
Apologies if this has been covered before.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
Hi Andy,
Getting your Elise over here and on the road is straightforward. It will cost you around 1400GBP to get it from your door in the UK to legally on the road in NZ. ((Based on a sole use 20' container - there are cheaper ways though Roll on roll of for instance)this includes for Shipping, Shipping Insurance, Devanning, MAF, code of compliance, warrant there are other things that have slipped my mind.....
A number of us have precoded you, as a result,there is a known and established methodology,understanding and contacts developed to assist and a network to foster once established here.
Such people as Me, Esprit, Mr G, WILKO, Iain A, and a couple of others on here will no doubt chip in to offer you their advice too. They are people with experience and a great deal of knowledge with regards importing an Elise amongst other things but essentially....
JUST DO IT!
There is a thread about once a month on here or on seloc regarding Emigrating to NZ, it may be worth your while doing a search and having a read...Happy to assist and answer any questions you may have regarding specifics, happy to discuss off line who I used, and my experiences if you think this will assist you.
The 111R in my profile is ex UK and I shipped it here about two years ago.
If you heading towards Wellington, the other fourteen Elise owners will no doubt welcome you to our little part of the world...
mark
Getting your Elise over here and on the road is straightforward. It will cost you around 1400GBP to get it from your door in the UK to legally on the road in NZ. ((Based on a sole use 20' container - there are cheaper ways though Roll on roll of for instance)this includes for Shipping, Shipping Insurance, Devanning, MAF, code of compliance, warrant there are other things that have slipped my mind.....
A number of us have precoded you, as a result,there is a known and established methodology,understanding and contacts developed to assist and a network to foster once established here.
Such people as Me, Esprit, Mr G, WILKO, Iain A, and a couple of others on here will no doubt chip in to offer you their advice too. They are people with experience and a great deal of knowledge with regards importing an Elise amongst other things but essentially....
JUST DO IT!
There is a thread about once a month on here or on seloc regarding Emigrating to NZ, it may be worth your while doing a search and having a read...Happy to assist and answer any questions you may have regarding specifics, happy to discuss off line who I used, and my experiences if you think this will assist you.
The 111R in my profile is ex UK and I shipped it here about two years ago.
If you heading towards Wellington, the other fourteen Elise owners will no doubt welcome you to our little part of the world...
mark
Hi
I brought my Caterham 7 over 5 years ago. There were a few hoops to jump through, but it wasn't hard.
I used a 20ft container to ship the car and all my household goods... just built a strong shelf above the car.
If you are attached to the car - then bring it. If not have a look at www.trademe.co.nz and see if there is anything that appeals there as a replacement.. However another Elise is always welcome.
I brought my Caterham 7 over 5 years ago. There were a few hoops to jump through, but it wasn't hard.
I used a 20ft container to ship the car and all my household goods... just built a strong shelf above the car.
If you are attached to the car - then bring it. If not have a look at www.trademe.co.nz and see if there is anything that appeals there as a replacement.. However another Elise is always welcome.
I cant comment on how easy it is to import but as you have owned it overseas a personal import shouldnt be too difficult to arrange.
Would assume your S1 111S is worth around £9-10000 +/- which would be just over $20000NZD at the moment.
Cost to buy one here would be $30000- $35000 so importing is likely cheaper than buying here though there are very few Elises here,maybe one or two for sale at any time max and most are non vvc models so not the easiest thing to buy. (see page 96 trademe thread on NZ forum)
Dont put up with another UK winter and try the south pacific!!
Would assume your S1 111S is worth around £9-10000 +/- which would be just over $20000NZD at the moment.
Cost to buy one here would be $30000- $35000 so importing is likely cheaper than buying here though there are very few Elises here,maybe one or two for sale at any time max and most are non vvc models so not the easiest thing to buy. (see page 96 trademe thread on NZ forum)
Dont put up with another UK winter and try the south pacific!!
Edited by Oscar the Grouch on Sunday 9th January 08:49
Thanks all for your detailed responses, I have to say that I am very pleased at the 1400GBP figure - I was expecting more than that.
Mark, your 111R looks incredible and whilst I make my arrangements at work I will certainly be taking up your kind offer of givng me some more details in who you used to ship your P&J.
I'm pretty excited now..
Mark, your 111R looks incredible and whilst I make my arrangements at work I will certainly be taking up your kind offer of givng me some more details in who you used to ship your P&J.
I'm pretty excited now..
Hi,
Unless you're hankering after a change then the only option is to bring your Elise with you. As long as you've owned it for more than 12mths you won't get stung for import duty, but even if you do, you'd still struggle to replace it with another at a similar price here - plus you know the car well already.
If you haven't found it in one of the older Posts, Ken at KW Historics is your man.
www.lotus.co.nz
As it's a 111S I think it'll be new enough that it can be imported via the normal process rather than a as special interest vehicle - which has some additional conditions. I've also been told there's some quirk with complying S1's as they don't have sun visors, but Ken would be able to advise on all of this.
Lastly, excellent choice of Elise and colour...
Unless you're hankering after a change then the only option is to bring your Elise with you. As long as you've owned it for more than 12mths you won't get stung for import duty, but even if you do, you'd still struggle to replace it with another at a similar price here - plus you know the car well already.
If you haven't found it in one of the older Posts, Ken at KW Historics is your man.
www.lotus.co.nz
As it's a 111S I think it'll be new enough that it can be imported via the normal process rather than a as special interest vehicle - which has some additional conditions. I've also been told there's some quirk with complying S1's as they don't have sun visors, but Ken would be able to advise on all of this.
Lastly, excellent choice of Elise and colour...
D1GGY said:
It will cost you around 1400GBP to get it from your door in the UK to legally on the road in NZ. ((Based on a sole use 20' container -
Hi Andy,Having recently brought over a car from the UK my experience was that the all-up cost was more like 3000GBP for a private 20' container. That included 12.5% tax (now 15%) on the value of the 25000GBP car + the cost of shipping which gets added to the value of the car to calculate the tax. Plus there will be other charges to get the car compliant. If you have to go the private container route I would budget 3000-3500 GBP.
But otherwise all thumbs up on emigrating to NZ. I came here 20 years ago with the intention of staying 3 years, 5 year max!
Mike
Hi Mike,
I appreciate you have just done this, but did you enter as a new migrant, first time here?
I would need to check, my understanding is that if this is Andy's first entry to NZ as a migrant, and he has owned the car more than 12 months, and been outside NZ for more than 24 months, then import duty may not apply...
Andy, if you email me your specific circumstances I will check with customs in Wellington...
m
I appreciate you have just done this, but did you enter as a new migrant, first time here?
I would need to check, my understanding is that if this is Andy's first entry to NZ as a migrant, and he has owned the car more than 12 months, and been outside NZ for more than 24 months, then import duty may not apply...
Andy, if you email me your specific circumstances I will check with customs in Wellington...
m
D1GGY said:
I appreciate you have just done this, but did you enter as a new migrant, first time here? m
You are quite right. I now remember something along those lines and it not applying to me. Still, the shipping component didn't seem as cheap as you're saying. The numbers aren't adding up properly in my head. Unfortunately I'm overseas otherwise it would be a simple matter to check my bill. I'll do that on my return. But I stand correct on the tax issue. 
I managed to dig up an old email. I shipped mine DCB international from Liverpool to Dunedin the cost was 6700 NZD or about 3200 GBP. This was for a private container, all port and MAF charges, and insurance. The difference between my cost and Esprit's 5000 NZD cost may be the extra distance to Dunedin? or the fact that prices have gone up (my car came in Jan 2010...I'm not sure when Esprit's came in). On top of all those charges I then had to pay 12.5% on the cost of the car PLUS the cost of shipping, and this is something you may not have to pay as a new entrant. I also got 3 quotes and DCB was the cheapest.
Wow...that is a huge increase since I shipped mine in Nov 2008.
you got me thinking now, so i had to check my quote, 18/8/2008 1356 GBP Southampton to Wellington from Ray Haball @ www.autoshippers.co.uk the actual shipping was done through Pantalvers, a little higher than my memory served me..
so, my information may no longer be reliable, sorry Andy. I would be interested to know what quote you get as I am thinking about another import soon. If the cost has doubled in 24 months I may have to reconsider...
you got me thinking now, so i had to check my quote, 18/8/2008 1356 GBP Southampton to Wellington from Ray Haball @ www.autoshippers.co.uk the actual shipping was done through Pantalvers, a little higher than my memory served me..
so, my information may no longer be reliable, sorry Andy. I would be interested to know what quote you get as I am thinking about another import soon. If the cost has doubled in 24 months I may have to reconsider...
I'm thinking of shipping another car too so I just got a quote from Autoshippers and here it is..
Southampton to Lyttleton (guess they don't go to Dunedin...pisses me off because Dunedin's slogan is "It's All Right Here") is Port to Port Price (£ 1391.00),
UK Export Documentation fee (£ 34.00), Total : £ 1425.00.
This is the roll-on roll-off service and so it would be the cheapest way. Has anyone used this service????
But NOTE this does not include MAF charges, insurance (2% of value of vehicle), customs clearance ("Your quote is for arrival to port at destination. Our agents can arrange customs clearance on your behalf or you can save on this fee by dealing directly with the local customs authorities."). There are also little things they add here and there. For example, in my quote it said "You will also have to pay a nominal fee for the discharge of your vehicle from the vessel to the quay".
I would budget 2000GBP...still lots cheaper than a private container. Anyway, come to New Zealand. In fact, come to Dunedin so that way we'll double the number of Lotus owners. I'm told there's a place that even sells coffee in Dunedin...what can I say...it's all right here!
Southampton to Lyttleton (guess they don't go to Dunedin...pisses me off because Dunedin's slogan is "It's All Right Here") is Port to Port Price (£ 1391.00),
UK Export Documentation fee (£ 34.00), Total : £ 1425.00.
This is the roll-on roll-off service and so it would be the cheapest way. Has anyone used this service????
But NOTE this does not include MAF charges, insurance (2% of value of vehicle), customs clearance ("Your quote is for arrival to port at destination. Our agents can arrange customs clearance on your behalf or you can save on this fee by dealing directly with the local customs authorities."). There are also little things they add here and there. For example, in my quote it said "You will also have to pay a nominal fee for the discharge of your vehicle from the vessel to the quay".
I would budget 2000GBP...still lots cheaper than a private container. Anyway, come to New Zealand. In fact, come to Dunedin so that way we'll double the number of Lotus owners. I'm told there's a place that even sells coffee in Dunedin...what can I say...it's all right here!
Your right, it is all the little things that add up.....
Based on Wellington, paperwork and co-ordination completed by me.
Devanning - $200 http://www.centrepac.co.nz/devanning.php
MAF-$50 - http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/enter/other
COC-$300 - Wellington Vehicle Compliance
1st Registration - $431 http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licen...
Transport port to WVC - $150 Auto movements.
Customs - http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Motor+vehicl...
Customs cut and paste from - http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Motor+vehicl...
Eligibility
Concessionary entry for motor vehicles is available to persons who have arrived in New Zealand and on the date the motor vehicle is imported, hold a document authorising residence in New Zealand after living overseas for 21 months or more.
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Conditions
In order to qualify for concessionary entry, the following conditions must be met in full:
You have arrived in New Zealand and on the date the motor vehicle is imported you hold a document authorising permanent residence in New Zealand; and
For the whole of the period of 21 months preceding your arrival, you have resided outside or have been domiciled outside New Zealand. Brief holidays or exploratory visits do not exclude a person from qualifying for this concession; and
You have personally owned and used the vehicle for at least one year before the date of your departure for New Zealand, or the date on which the vehicle is surrendered for shipping, whichever is earlier; and
The vehicle is being imported for your own personal use and not for sale, gift or disposal in any other way; and
You give a concession reference 80 undertaking.
These conditions are strictly applied and the New Zealand Customs Service has no discretionary licence to adapt them to suit particular circumstances. If the above criteria cannot be met, the vehicle will be considered a non-concessionary import and Customs charges are payable.
and when the rates do apply - http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Motor+vehicl...
Based on Wellington, paperwork and co-ordination completed by me.
Devanning - $200 http://www.centrepac.co.nz/devanning.php
MAF-$50 - http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/enter/other
COC-$300 - Wellington Vehicle Compliance
1st Registration - $431 http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licen...
Transport port to WVC - $150 Auto movements.
Customs - http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Motor+vehicl...
Customs cut and paste from - http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Motor+vehicl...
Eligibility
Concessionary entry for motor vehicles is available to persons who have arrived in New Zealand and on the date the motor vehicle is imported, hold a document authorising residence in New Zealand after living overseas for 21 months or more.
back to top
Conditions
In order to qualify for concessionary entry, the following conditions must be met in full:
You have arrived in New Zealand and on the date the motor vehicle is imported you hold a document authorising permanent residence in New Zealand; and
For the whole of the period of 21 months preceding your arrival, you have resided outside or have been domiciled outside New Zealand. Brief holidays or exploratory visits do not exclude a person from qualifying for this concession; and
You have personally owned and used the vehicle for at least one year before the date of your departure for New Zealand, or the date on which the vehicle is surrendered for shipping, whichever is earlier; and
The vehicle is being imported for your own personal use and not for sale, gift or disposal in any other way; and
You give a concession reference 80 undertaking.
These conditions are strictly applied and the New Zealand Customs Service has no discretionary licence to adapt them to suit particular circumstances. If the above criteria cannot be met, the vehicle will be considered a non-concessionary import and Customs charges are payable.
and when the rates do apply - http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Motor+vehicl...
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