Give way rule to change

Give way rule to change

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Omerta

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2,013 posts

256 months

Esprit

6,370 posts

288 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Not before time!

Also I notice they're gonna look into power restrictions for inexperienced drivers... another overdue change.

grumbledoak

31,734 posts

238 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Amen on the T-junction change - that is/was a shocker.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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About damned time!

Wil need some $$$ spent on some junctions to fix them tho.

Marksteamnz

196 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Oh Brilliant
They are are changing a sensible way of clearing intersections to fit in with the morons who can't handle a rear view mirror.
Power restrictions have no effect on crash rates and advanced driver training has nill or slightly increases crashes in the young. But hey why let facts get in the way of pandering to the "well thy should do something" crowd
Balls bks and bullst

Fraster

1,267 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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I like kittens

Google [bot]

6,686 posts

186 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Esprit said:
Also I notice they're gonna look into power restrictions for inexperienced drivers... another overdue change.
Well I hope they manage it properly and not like your friends across the Tasman. Their typical kneejerk reaction to get the media off their back has resulted in the legislation 'No V8s or turbos'. Retarded...

jamieheasman

823 posts

289 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Enforcing compulsory third-party insurance (that isn't added on to your rego) would sort out the power thing as no insurance company would insure a 16-year-old in a 400bhp WRX.

As for the give-way rule - thank God. It has nothing to do with Morons who can't use their rear-view mirrors and everything to do with indecision in a potentially dangerous position. I won't bleat on about it again though as it's been done to death. At last some common sense prevails!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Who the hell dreamed the old system up...?

Fraster

1,267 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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and puppies

Esprit

6,370 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Marksteamnz said:
Oh Brilliant
Power restrictions have no effect on crash rates
To quote your own words... balls, bks and bullst.

Amongst young males, there's a drastic tendency for fatal accidents to be involving modified, high performance cars.

How many times do we see on the news WRXs wrapped around lamp poles. Skylines cut in half from a massive impact and Intagras smeared across the countryside.

As Jamie said, third party is a good effective way of policing this, but whatever they do it's gotta be better than the status quo.

Bull1t

772 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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I figured there would be a few people on here who supported the change. Personally I think scrapping the rule would/will be the single worst road decision made in recent memory.

Why should NZ change a perfect rule just because some people from overseas cant forget the flawed rules they use in other countries?

I do see the advantage in tourists not having to learn a different rule to their home country...but on that basis maybe we should drive on the right side of the road too?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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The give way rule os nuts, honestly , its not about tourists, the locals dont get it either.

Bull1t

772 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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If your turning left and a car coming towards you is turning right you have to give way to them. If someone is new to NZ and forgets that rule thats something that we have to put up with but if they dont understand it you'd have to question whether they should be driving in the first place.

Murdock

406 posts

238 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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The 'old' (still current?) rule works fine in theory, where drivers know what to do and what's expected of them. In practice the rule fostered doubt ("do I go?", "is the car behind too close?", "will he go?" etc.), which in turn leads to indecision - probably THE biggest cause of accidents on the road. I agree with what people are saying in terms of implementing this rule, though - there could be carnage.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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.... unless your turning onto a dual carridgeway in which case bothc ars can go, But 9 out of 10 kiwi drivers dont understand that bit.

And it can also leave a dual carridgway blocked in both lanes too , which is likewise stupid.

At the worst it can leave 4 or more drives unsure as to who is going where/when, nevermind cyclists.

Yes if it was obayed to the letter by everyone it would work. As it is its broke.

Marksteamnz

196 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Esprit said:
Marksteamnz said:
Oh Brilliant
Power restrictions have no effect on crash rates
To quote your own words... balls, bks and bullst.

Amongst young males, there's a drastic tendency for fatal accidents to be involving modified, high performance cars.

How many times do we see on the news WRXs wrapped around lamp poles. Skylines cut in half from a massive impact and Intagras smeared across the countryside.

As Jamie said, third party is a good effective way of policing this, but whatever they do it's gotta be better than the status quo.

Third party but makes sense in keeping complete arsewipes of the road, but the same hard driving loonies (Opps! I remember that!) will be wrapping 1000cc crap round poles etc The removal of high powered cars from the young driver pool doesn't effect the death rate significantly. Sorry but Oh it's common sense, it's obvious, must be the case, we have to do SOMETHING, yadda yadda doesn't change the numbers.

The package of measures are all the kneejerk BS that rings bells. The fact Australia is spending big dollars to move poles and obstructions back from road edges etc at the same time? Weeeell we don't want to cover that. Money spelt m.o.n.e.y pronounced MONEY!

iain a

329 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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I'll be pleased to see that rule go. Just spend 5 minutes viewing my 'favorite' road junction and I'll show you a heap of reasons why it doesn't work - all ably demonstrated by locals, immigrants and visitors alike. Even the French abandoned it years ago.
Goodbye and good riddance.

jaybkay

488 posts

225 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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The "give way to the right rule" consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs.

Castration would be too kind for the delinquent who ever thought up such an absurd piece of garbage - since 90% of drivers in NZ can't even interpret the current rule correctly turning at junctions should be safer in the future........... as long as the "public consultation" comes up with the right conclusion.

cheddar

4,637 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Astonishing that Kiwi PH'ers are confused at the present give way rule.

The benefits far outweigh the drawbacks and if you can't handle/fathom it perhaps you should look to some advanced(ish) lessons.

The right turn queues/queue jumping start here.