NZ vehicle import from UK
Discussion
I am currently living in the UK, and plan on doing so for another year or two. I would like to bring a vehicle back to NZ with me as an SIV, or even under the Immigrant Vehicle scheme.
The two main options are:
•Lancia Delta Integrale Evolution 2
•TVR T350c
Although I am not really bringing them back to NZ to sell, and I know I would need to hang onto them for a few years, it would be nice to know what the value would be. Any ideas what either of these would be worth in NZ$?
The two main options are:
•Lancia Delta Integrale Evolution 2
•TVR T350c
Although I am not really bringing them back to NZ to sell, and I know I would need to hang onto them for a few years, it would be nice to know what the value would be. Any ideas what either of these would be worth in NZ$?
If you bring a 2006 T350 you wouldn't need to SIV it - TVR made fewer than 200 cars that year so it qualifies as a low volume import. A 2006 Sagaris has already been registered this way.
Value? Very hard to say... generally they'll sell for more than the equivalent in the UK, but then you've got a lot of import costs to add and these sorts of cars can sit waiting for a buyer for a long time. People are wary of UK cars that have been on salted roads and servicing & parts for rare machines are more expensive (you could count the number of Speed 6 Tivs in NZ without taking your shoes off).
Both great cars that will be extra rare and special here, but bring it because you want to drive it, whether you make or lose money at the end is a lottery.
Value? Very hard to say... generally they'll sell for more than the equivalent in the UK, but then you've got a lot of import costs to add and these sorts of cars can sit waiting for a buyer for a long time. People are wary of UK cars that have been on salted roads and servicing & parts for rare machines are more expensive (you could count the number of Speed 6 Tivs in NZ without taking your shoes off).
Both great cars that will be extra rare and special here, but bring it because you want to drive it, whether you make or lose money at the end is a lottery.
Hey George, was wondering how many hours it was before you popped up on here! 
I have been discussing this at length with Paul from VTNZ, and the main sticking point for the Lancia seems to be finding some magazines that have a published list of 'classic' vehicles, which contains the Lancia. I have emailed about 10 publications, but the only responses have been 'Yeah, it's definitely a classic' type stuff. Apparently it need to be in print or on a website.
This is really only needed because of the four passenger doors, rather than the two they mention on the SIV form. Annoying.
Ironically, the Lancia seems to be the harder vehicle to bring into the country, mainly because of the higher volume of production combined and the LHD.
I am very interested in the "low volume import" category mentioned. I haven't heard of it (or the SIV for that matter until George mentioned it). Is there a limit on the amount of vehicles registered under this scheme? Is it more like a scratch-built type registration or something? Anyone have any info on this?
I have been discussing this at length with Paul from VTNZ, and the main sticking point for the Lancia seems to be finding some magazines that have a published list of 'classic' vehicles, which contains the Lancia. I have emailed about 10 publications, but the only responses have been 'Yeah, it's definitely a classic' type stuff. Apparently it need to be in print or on a website.
This is really only needed because of the four passenger doors, rather than the two they mention on the SIV form. Annoying.
Ironically, the Lancia seems to be the harder vehicle to bring into the country, mainly because of the higher volume of production combined and the LHD.
I am very interested in the "low volume import" category mentioned. I haven't heard of it (or the SIV for that matter until George mentioned it). Is there a limit on the amount of vehicles registered under this scheme? Is it more like a scratch-built type registration or something? Anyone have any info on this?
A SIV would be no problem. These were limited to 200 issued per year, but believe this has been extended to 500 to include the LHD category.(someone else will confirm)
As of December 2009, less than 50 for that year had been issued, so not a huge uptake.
As for car, a T350c, or ant TVR would be my advice.
But I am biased..!!
As of December 2009, less than 50 for that year had been issued, so not a huge uptake.
As for car, a T350c, or ant TVR would be my advice.
But I am biased..!!
comp80 said:
Ironically, the Lancia seems to be the harder vehicle to bring into the country, mainly because of the higher volume of production combined and the LHD.
This may be worth a read but don't know if it will ever happen LHD rule changecomp80 said:
Hey George, was wondering how many hours it was before you popped up on here!
I have been discussing this at length with Paul from VTNZ, and the main sticking point for the Lancia seems to be finding some magazines that have a published list of 'classic' vehicles, which contains the Lancia. I have emailed about 10 publications, but the only responses have been 'Yeah, it's definitely a classic' type stuff.
That latest top gear episode on lancia any good here? Cause clarkson and hammond are always right.......... I have been discussing this at length with Paul from VTNZ, and the main sticking point for the Lancia seems to be finding some magazines that have a published list of 'classic' vehicles, which contains the Lancia. I have emailed about 10 publications, but the only responses have been 'Yeah, it's definitely a classic' type stuff.
Omerta said:
If you bring a 2006 T350 you wouldn't need to SIV it - TVR made fewer than 200 cars that year so it qualifies as a low volume import. A 2006 Sagaris has already been registered this way.
Brendon NZ said:
A SIV would be no problem. These were limited to 200 issued per year, but believe this has been extended to 500 to include the LHD category.
What's the difference between these? Anyone know?mark387mw said:
This may be worth a read but don't know if it will ever happen LHD rule change
Thanks for that. I have been informed by VTNZ that this is still pending, and hadn't heard any further news. Lets be hoping it's good news.TVR should be no problem through either the Immigrant Vehicle scheme (have to previously own it for a year though, but means you only have to keep it for a year afterwards) or the SIV scheme, which by the sounds of things the allocation isn't exactly being eaten up fast.
The Lancia I am not so sure about. SIV would be OK if I could find other articles/websites that classify it as a classic, or to bring it in as an immigrant vehicle. Unfortunately I am not sure how the LHD effects this in both instances. Seem to be a bit grey.
Or I could just wait until its 20 years old and import it normally from NZ. Although I did discuss this with LTSA, and they assured me that if I personally imported it when it was 19 years old, then I could register it when it rolled over its 20 year anniversary. This is how one of my friends brought in a 1986 328 GTB. So it would depend on when I left the UK, and what age the vehicle actually was at the time as to how long I would have to wait.
comp80 said:
Brendon NZ said:
A SIV would be no problem. These were limited to 200 issued per year, but believe this has been extended to 500 to include the LHD category.
What's the difference between these? Anyone know? comp80 said:
mark387mw said:
This may be worth a read but don't know if it will ever happen LHD rule change
Thanks for that. I have been informed by VTNZ that this is still pending, and hadn't heard any further news. Lets be hoping it's good news. comp80 said:
Brendon NZ said:
A SIV would be no problem. These were limited to 200 issued per year, but believe this has been extended to 500 to include the LHD category.
What's the difference between these? Anyone know? uncinqsix said:
There won't be many cases like this because the vast majority of LHD SIVs will be from the US and will meet frontal impact standards anyway. The Integrale is one of the few cases I can think of where both permits would be needed.
You are quite right, as i guess most of the Mustang importers would be either bringing in older vehicles (20 years +) or the new stuff that complies. I can't think of another vehicle either.I wonder if you can just tack the different categories together, like if a vehicle doesn't meet the criteria in one, you can apply for another category to get through. Perhaps it's time for another conversation with VTNZ.
My understanding is basically this:
"Low Volume Vehicles" are exempted from having to pass recognised frontal impact crash testing or emissions standards.
From the Frontal Impact 2001 Rule, a low volume vehicle is defined as:
Low volume vehicle
means a motor vehicle of a class in Table A: Vehicle classes, other than Class MD3, MD4, ME, NB, NC, TC or TD, that is:
(a) manufactured, assembled or scratch-built in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, by a manufacturer whose total production of motor vehicles does not exceed 200 units over the same period, and where the construction of the vehicle directly or indirectly affects compliance of the vehicle with any of the vehicle standards prescribed by New Zealand law; or
(b) modified uniquely, or in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, in such a way as to affect the compliance of the vehicle, its structure, systems, components, and equipment, with a legal requirement relating to safety performance applicable at the time of the modification.
Evidence has been previously provided to LTSA (now NZTA) by a TVR engineer that they produced fewer than 200 cars in 2006, so a car made in that year meets the definition of "a low volume vehicle".
On arrival in NZ the car would need to be inspected and certified by a LVV certifier who would then issue a VIN plate. A high level brake light would need to be added and likely some other 'safety' changes.
"Low Volume Vehicles" are exempted from having to pass recognised frontal impact crash testing or emissions standards.
From the Frontal Impact 2001 Rule, a low volume vehicle is defined as:
Low volume vehicle
means a motor vehicle of a class in Table A: Vehicle classes, other than Class MD3, MD4, ME, NB, NC, TC or TD, that is:
(a) manufactured, assembled or scratch-built in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, by a manufacturer whose total production of motor vehicles does not exceed 200 units over the same period, and where the construction of the vehicle directly or indirectly affects compliance of the vehicle with any of the vehicle standards prescribed by New Zealand law; or
(b) modified uniquely, or in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, in such a way as to affect the compliance of the vehicle, its structure, systems, components, and equipment, with a legal requirement relating to safety performance applicable at the time of the modification.
Evidence has been previously provided to LTSA (now NZTA) by a TVR engineer that they produced fewer than 200 cars in 2006, so a car made in that year meets the definition of "a low volume vehicle".
On arrival in NZ the car would need to be inspected and certified by a LVV certifier who would then issue a VIN plate. A high level brake light would need to be added and likely some other 'safety' changes.
Hi
If you are needing magazine articles to justify classic status of the Lancia I am reading a copy of Car magazine from Feb 2009. There is an article on the Lancia Delta Integrale entitled "Car Classics".
They certainly agree it is a classic.
Surely a fine respected title like Car is acceptable.
If you are needing magazine articles to justify classic status of the Lancia I am reading a copy of Car magazine from Feb 2009. There is an article on the Lancia Delta Integrale entitled "Car Classics".
They certainly agree it is a classic.
Surely a fine respected title like Car is acceptable.
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