spills on the road
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Survived a milk tanker spill going down the Brynderwyns, 10.45am Sunday travelling North, with only a bent over rider bar and minor plastic alterations from bouncing off the road side barrier. Round the bend I found a car that had completed a 360 degree roll as they missed the barrier and hit the shingle. After a few choice words about onlookers not standing around looking helpless I set off up the hill and waved cars down. Interesting running up hill and watching cars at some pretty interesting angles. Fortunately no furthur crashes as the traffic slowed and eventually the services showed up and coned off the lane. The nice greasy butter coating had been gritted by the time I headed home in the afternoon.
Interesting points
Chatting to the local police that was the third spill in the last 2 months from a Fontera tanker.
The police are not interested in adding to the paper work for minor panel damage caused by a spill.
As no one had actually seen the tanker and it was long gone the police will give Fontera a ring. Hang on I'm told the tankers have Sat Nav and are logged.
There seemed to be a "shit happens" attitude to the whole event. For craps sake if I'd been on a motor bike and gone into the barrier I'd be fairly messed up instead of just having a 40 mm groove ground through a thick wall nerf bar.
The point of this rant is there is nothing when the usual deaths on the road bilge is being spouted re road spills causing death or injury. I still wonder about that van with the tourists the suddenly stepped sideways and was hit by a truck killing 10. No cause could be found. How about, diesel, cow shit, milk, or a dozen other lubricants that fall on roads it seems all to often.
Does anyone have a handle on how often crap like this happens?
Cheers
Mark Stacey
Interesting points
Chatting to the local police that was the third spill in the last 2 months from a Fontera tanker.
The police are not interested in adding to the paper work for minor panel damage caused by a spill.
As no one had actually seen the tanker and it was long gone the police will give Fontera a ring. Hang on I'm told the tankers have Sat Nav and are logged.
There seemed to be a "shit happens" attitude to the whole event. For craps sake if I'd been on a motor bike and gone into the barrier I'd be fairly messed up instead of just having a 40 mm groove ground through a thick wall nerf bar.
The point of this rant is there is nothing when the usual deaths on the road bilge is being spouted re road spills causing death or injury. I still wonder about that van with the tourists the suddenly stepped sideways and was hit by a truck killing 10. No cause could be found. How about, diesel, cow shit, milk, or a dozen other lubricants that fall on roads it seems all to often.
Does anyone have a handle on how often crap like this happens?
Cheers
Mark Stacey
Edited by marksteamnz on Tuesday 10th October 15:18
marksteamnz said:
Does anyone have and handle on how often crap like this happens?
I think that's an excellent question to put to the Minister for the Prevention of Land Transport
I also thought that milk tankers were metered-in and metered-out so someone will have arrived with a short load.
At least you lived to walk away
marksteamnz said:
. After a few choice words about onlookers not standing around looking helpless I set off up the hill and waved cars down. Interesting running up hill and watching cars at some pretty interesting angles. Fortunately no furthur crashes as the traffic slowed and eventually the services showed up and coned off the lane. Cheers
Edited by marksteamnz on Tuesday 10th October 15:18
Real glad your ok. Its interesting how people react to accidents, some people just freeze and all their common sense buttons fly off. Other people like you just react and have done whats best. You probably saved a dozen other other potential accidents maybey more. You need a medal if you ask me. If Helen wont give you one we will
What are the chances of this being the same tanker 
NZ Herald said:
Truck and milk tanker involved in head-on crash
6.30pm Thursday October 12, 2006
A truck collided head on with a milk tanker when it jackknifed across the highway north of Auckland this afternoon.
The crash happened 2km north of Kaukapakapa on State Highway 16 at 2pm.
Both drivers were taken to North Shore hospital with moderate injuries.
The truck and trailer unit and the milk tanker were both significantly damaged and a heavy crane had been called to remove them.
Auckland Regional Council environmental health unit attended to oversee any damage done by milk spilt on the road.
6.30pm Thursday October 12, 2006
A truck collided head on with a milk tanker when it jackknifed across the highway north of Auckland this afternoon.
The crash happened 2km north of Kaukapakapa on State Highway 16 at 2pm.
Both drivers were taken to North Shore hospital with moderate injuries.
The truck and trailer unit and the milk tanker were both significantly damaged and a heavy crane had been called to remove them.
Auckland Regional Council environmental health unit attended to oversee any damage done by milk spilt on the road.
Mustang-man said:
Nothing will be done about it until after someone/s is killed.
Just look at the tree that killed Peter Brock. Because a famous person hit it and got killed the council has now chopped it down - they couldn't have done that earlier of course when other people had crashed into it.
What a waste of a tree, should have stacked tires around it. Kiwis are like that, any tree within falling distance of a house or road seems to be automatically seen as potentially dangerous and ready to be removed. It’s a real pity, when I was in New England one of the things I loved about older housing estates was the large trees just lining the road and providing plenty of shade.Just look at the tree that killed Peter Brock. Because a famous person hit it and got killed the council has now chopped it down - they couldn't have done that earlier of course when other people had crashed into it.
speedy_thrills said:
. . . Kiwis are like that, any tree within falling distance of a house or road seems to be automatically seen as potentially dangerous and ready to be removed . . .
I think you'll find this was in WA . . . Beware the drunken Aussie with a chainsaw
If it was a Kiwi, he would still be trying to obtain a Resource Consent to remove the tree, another Resource Consent for the chainsaw exceeding 80dB, and yet another Resource Consent for the chainsaw discharging evil greenhouse gases.
Kiwi XTR2 said:
speedy_thrills said:
. . . Kiwis are like that, any tree within falling distance of a house or road seems to be automatically seen as potentially dangerous and ready to be removed . . .
I think you'll find this was in WA . . . Beware the drunken Aussie with a chainsaw
If it was a Kiwi, he would still be trying to obtain a Resource Consent to remove the tree, another Resource Consent for the chainsaw exceeding 80dB, and yet another Resource Consent for the chainsaw discharging evil greenhouse gases.
You forgot to go into OHS legislation regarding anything perceived as being vaguely dangerous.
Talking of milk trucks, I was in Tauranga last week and was one of the first on the scene for a big accident on 29 when a truck turned over going down a hill in Tauriko and wiped out two off road vehicles going home and another car. Two killed.
Ugly ugle scene. Really, really wished I hadn't seen it :-( Didn't sleep properly all week.
Ugly ugle scene. Really, really wished I hadn't seen it :-( Didn't sleep properly all week.
speedy_thrills said:
Mustang-man said:
Nothing will be done about it until after someone/s is killed.
Just look at the tree that killed Peter Brock. Because a famous person hit it and got killed the council has now chopped it down - they couldn't have done that earlier of course when other people had crashed into it.
What a waste of a tree, should have stacked tires around it. Kiwis are like that, any tree within falling distance of a house or road seems to be automatically seen as potentially dangerous and ready to be removed. It’s a real pity, when I was in New England one of the things I loved about older housing estates was the large trees just lining the road and providing plenty of shade.Just look at the tree that killed Peter Brock. Because a famous person hit it and got killed the council has now chopped it down - they couldn't have done that earlier of course when other people had crashed into it.
Hmm Depends a bit where you live or drive. Up here in the Waitakeres there are more trees, big big trees on the road side than you can shake a stick at :-) The only trees that are trimmed are the ones the lines company take to and then replace with concrete trees with wires. Seriously 200 meters from our house the seal is round the base of some of the poles, and it's narrow, and it's 70kph and we have had 5 vehicles in five years off on the corner just past our place. Effing unforgiving piece of road, drum roll "Ladies and Gentleman I give you Mountain Rd Henderson, hot car and 4WD eating goat track. Pay your money and take your chances"
Cheers
Mark Stacey
I've learnt my lesson about taking blind corners sideways though - came a tad close to an SS commodore once with a cliff on one side and a large drop into some trees on the otherMark. can i offer you some coaching on your stick shaking method? I find, when wanting to shake a stick at a number of trees simultaneously, that i need to stand further back and shake at them en masse, ideally (m)uttering some quasi-Harry Potterish incantantation (this is like an incantation, only longer) such as waviosa! or something equally meaningless that I make up on the spot. i think that you will find that this will open up whole new vistas of stick shaking possibilities in your life and you will find yourself happier, more fulfilled and with less of those worrying fine wrinkles.
And speaking of worrying fines: we were fined 200 dollars yesterday because our fierce dog (part aphid, part single-cell organism, only smaller) wandered 50 paces off our property to pee on a lamppost) AAh, democracy.Sorry, what were we talking about again.....?
And speaking of worrying fines: we were fined 200 dollars yesterday because our fierce dog (part aphid, part single-cell organism, only smaller) wandered 50 paces off our property to pee on a lamppost) AAh, democracy.Sorry, what were we talking about again.....?
[quote=GravelBen]Pah, soft north islanders 
.....come down here and I'll show ya some scary roads....
Arr Shipmate Born and spent 25 years in CHCH matey with a driving fool for a father, Crown range, Haast pass, Milford Sound, Lindis in winter BEFORE they were sealed, every goat track on Banks Penisula, Including the one via Birdlings flat out to Magnet bay, Down the west coast from Golden bay as far as the last fishing camp. Skippers canyon etc etc etc. Still showing my English missus the delights of the South. To the Catlans from Dunedin last Christmas via the unsealed coast road in teaming rain then inland.
And I'd rather drive them than our stupid road. It's VERY narrow, big drops, steep, the surface is crap (we're an eco city which I finally figured out means don't fix the roads, it uses oil apparently) and twisty. There is over 200 famuily houses up it so at 7.30 am 9am, 3pm 5.30 pm RUN AWAY!! as 4 million people movers, 4x4's etc hurtle down to transport people to work, school or play. The really good bit is the road narrows sign, immediately followed by a change from 70kph to 100kph. There is a thinning in the number of houses so some formula related to a parallel universe kicks in before the houses bunch up again.
It's the combination that gives me the hebbie jebbies
Cheers
Mark Stacey
.....come down here and I'll show ya some scary roads.... Arr Shipmate Born and spent 25 years in CHCH matey with a driving fool for a father, Crown range, Haast pass, Milford Sound, Lindis in winter BEFORE they were sealed, every goat track on Banks Penisula, Including the one via Birdlings flat out to Magnet bay, Down the west coast from Golden bay as far as the last fishing camp. Skippers canyon etc etc etc. Still showing my English missus the delights of the South. To the Catlans from Dunedin last Christmas via the unsealed coast road in teaming rain then inland.
And I'd rather drive them than our stupid road. It's VERY narrow, big drops, steep, the surface is crap (we're an eco city which I finally figured out means don't fix the roads, it uses oil apparently) and twisty. There is over 200 famuily houses up it so at 7.30 am 9am, 3pm 5.30 pm RUN AWAY!! as 4 million people movers, 4x4's etc hurtle down to transport people to work, school or play. The really good bit is the road narrows sign, immediately followed by a change from 70kph to 100kph. There is a thinning in the number of houses so some formula related to a parallel universe kicks in before the houses bunch up again.
It's the combination that gives me the hebbie jebbies
Cheers
Mark Stacey
marksteamnz said:
And I'd rather drive them than our stupid road.
at preferring Skippers Canyon to yours - most on your list are my sort of roads though 
marksteamnz said:
4 million people movers, 4x4's etc hurtle down to transport people to work, school or play.
Ahh I see, makes more sense now, the nastiest roads can be much fun if you have them to yourself, and the nicest can be nasty with that sort of traffic, and you've managed to get the worst of both worlds......rather you than me.
Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 14th October 03:46
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