How fuel efficient is a TVR ?
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NZ Herald said:
'Dross' car imports could be outlawed
4.00pm Thursday June 29, 2006 - By Grant Fleming
Poor quality cars imported from overseas could be subjected to tighter rules, the Government said today.
Tighter controls on inefficient vehicles will be among measures proposed in a climate change policy, Climate Change Minister David Parker said.
He said there was some truth that New Zealand received the "bag end" of the global used car market and that "everyone else's dross" was being brought into the country.
The new policy will aim to fill the gulf left by the Government's decision in December to scrap its broad-based carbon tax.
That could be replaced by a narrower carbon tax on energy generators and major polluters, but a range of other initiatives are also planned.
Mr Parker today told MPs on Parliament's local government and environment committee that among the policy options would be measures aimed at improving the fuel efficiency of New Zealand's aged vehicle fleet.
One proposal would be to tighten import controls to block the worst offending vehicles from entering the country.
"There is some evidence that New Zealand gets the bag end of the world's second hand cars because our rules are more permissive than are found in a lot of other countries and I certainly don't think that our rules should be so permissive that we end up getting everyone else's dross," he said.
Such moves would have to be carefully implemented to make sure they did not deter people from replacing the nation's aged vehicle fleet.
The Government floated the measure last year, but at that time said it did not prefer it as an option.
However, with the axing of the carbon tax that may have changed.
New Zealand has some of the most relaxed car import rules in the developed world, which has contributed to an average vehicle age of about 12 years.
Adding to the problem is that an increasing proportion of the fleet is made up of aging diesel vehicles which give off worse fumes.
The climate change policy programme will be released in the next fortnight.
Not sure whether to be a glass-half-full or glass-half-empty on this one. Could be a good thing if it eliminates those clouds of black smoke, preceeded by a 20 year-old japanese refridgerated truck. 4.00pm Thursday June 29, 2006 - By Grant Fleming
Poor quality cars imported from overseas could be subjected to tighter rules, the Government said today.
Tighter controls on inefficient vehicles will be among measures proposed in a climate change policy, Climate Change Minister David Parker said.
He said there was some truth that New Zealand received the "bag end" of the global used car market and that "everyone else's dross" was being brought into the country.
The new policy will aim to fill the gulf left by the Government's decision in December to scrap its broad-based carbon tax.
That could be replaced by a narrower carbon tax on energy generators and major polluters, but a range of other initiatives are also planned.
Mr Parker today told MPs on Parliament's local government and environment committee that among the policy options would be measures aimed at improving the fuel efficiency of New Zealand's aged vehicle fleet.
One proposal would be to tighten import controls to block the worst offending vehicles from entering the country.
"There is some evidence that New Zealand gets the bag end of the world's second hand cars because our rules are more permissive than are found in a lot of other countries and I certainly don't think that our rules should be so permissive that we end up getting everyone else's dross," he said.
Such moves would have to be carefully implemented to make sure they did not deter people from replacing the nation's aged vehicle fleet.
The Government floated the measure last year, but at that time said it did not prefer it as an option.
However, with the axing of the carbon tax that may have changed.
New Zealand has some of the most relaxed car import rules in the developed world, which has contributed to an average vehicle age of about 12 years.
Adding to the problem is that an increasing proportion of the fleet is made up of aging diesel vehicles which give off worse fumes.
The climate change policy programme will be released in the next fortnight.
[reverting to form]Watch out for the Greens "adding" to the Bill.
Who feels like drafting a Supplementary Order Paper to increase the LVVTA limit to 500 vehicles per annum in line with most other countries ?Graham, It's not for lack of trying. Jim Gamsby (head of the TVR Club) has been lobbying them for YEARS along with our own V8SAG to try and get the rules changed..... in short, nothing doing.
As for the efficiency, they're actually not that bad.... the Rv8 engined cars are no worse than a V8 Commodore of a similar era and a the modern cars aren't terrible (if driven sensibly)... You gotta remember that they're a light car and they can be made quite economical by being very selective with the throttle. They've got weight on their side.
I'd be more worried about it getting rid of th bigger Mercs etc from the 2nd hand car market as these would surely be worse than most.... hopefully along with most of the really crap 4WDs like the Nissan Terranos you see belching out cubic kilometres of black smoke up the bombays.
As for the efficiency, they're actually not that bad.... the Rv8 engined cars are no worse than a V8 Commodore of a similar era and a the modern cars aren't terrible (if driven sensibly)... You gotta remember that they're a light car and they can be made quite economical by being very selective with the throttle. They've got weight on their side.
I'd be more worried about it getting rid of th bigger Mercs etc from the 2nd hand car market as these would surely be worse than most.... hopefully along with most of the really crap 4WDs like the Nissan Terranos you see belching out cubic kilometres of black smoke up the bombays.
Edited by Esprit on Thursday 29th June 06:24
Esprit said:
As for the efficiency, they're actually not that bad.... the Rv8 engined cars are no worse than a V8 Commodore of a similar era and a the modern cars aren't terrible (if driven sensibly)...
A V8 . . . are you mad 
Think of the children !!!
It's irresponsible people like you who cause spontanteous global warming
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