Bugatti Veyron
Discussion
I've got about 5 or 6 mpegs of the Veyron and altho they say it's fast it never looks that quick. Would be great to see it against something as a comparison. The "supercars" are getting insane with 800-900-1000bhp and huge torque.
Graham you could always buy one and be the first and be unique again
Graham you could always buy one and be the first and be unique again
Gravel Ben... your in luck as there is one in NZ. It's in Auckland and I'm sure KiwiXTR2 would pop round and take it for a test drive for you. Then all you need to do is deposit the 1.5ish million into the owners back account and your away laughing. www.closeratio.com/asp/default.asp?dynamic=details&id=1326
Nice choice might I add :-)
>> Edited by Kiwi Carguy on Monday 17th April 06:36
Nice choice might I add :-)
>> Edited by Kiwi Carguy on Monday 17th April 06:36
Kiwi Carguy said:
Gravel Ben... your in luck as there is one in NZ. It's in Auckland and I'm sure KiwiXTR2 would pop round and take it for a test drive for you. Then all you need to do is deposit the 1.5ish million into the owners back account and your away laughing. www.closeratio.com/asp/default.asp?dynamic=details&id=1326
Nice choice might I add :-)
>> Edited by Kiwi Carguy on Monday 17th April 06:36
Excellent, excellent, its the best looking version of the GT1 too
- now all I need is a coupla million $$. (hmm, I wonder what insurance on a 911 GT1 would be like for a 21-year old... 
) on a practical side, I've heard that they have huge blind spots and the turning circle of a bus, but hey who buys a GT1 car for practicality anyway.
edit to change age - had a birthday a month or so ago and keep forgetting.
>> Edited by GravelBen on Tuesday 18th April 08:14
The shot when the car is going through the tunnel and you can see the light reflecting off the billeted (?) aluminium surface is fantastic.
I don’t find it very appealing really; it’s just a bit to “safe” in design terms (In the sense that it looks like a bloated late model VW beetle). That Zonda F was quite nice though, not quite as nice as the Mercedes 300SL.
I don’t find it very appealing really; it’s just a bit to “safe” in design terms (In the sense that it looks like a bloated late model VW beetle). That Zonda F was quite nice though, not quite as nice as the Mercedes 300SL.
Kiwi XTR2 said:Torque and power, IRRC the engine is limited to producing 1001ps (not hp!) but is does so at altitude and in nearly any conditions. Similarly the top speed is limited to 252mph.
Not quite sure how the Veyron can go 0 - 200 mph faster than a Mac F1 does 120 - 200 when you look at power / weight / Cd / frontal area ?
When you think about it on a power to swept volume ratio it’s not very powerful at all, I suppose the engines will last well though?
Specs on the vulgon are incredible, AFIk it wont overtake the Mac F1 but it will beat it to the 200mph mark. 120-200 is about aerodynamics and power, both of which the bugati has in spades.
It gets to 60 in well under 3 seconds, for a 2 ton car thats very impressive.
I thought it was a bit light on info on the car but who cares, if your realy intrested in buying one I'd expect a VW team to come to you and explain all the intresting bits. this wasnt a car review, it didnt need to be, it was entertainment.
But ok its fast, but (apart from its rocket like acceletation) whats it like to drive (apart from as easy as a golf?) is it involving, responsive to input, nimble? Wonder how it'd do on TG's test track, it usualy favours the light and nimble over pure power.
Either I'm used to its pig ugly looks now or its growiong on me too, still have the zonda anyhow...
It gets to 60 in well under 3 seconds, for a 2 ton car thats very impressive.
I thought it was a bit light on info on the car but who cares, if your realy intrested in buying one I'd expect a VW team to come to you and explain all the intresting bits. this wasnt a car review, it didnt need to be, it was entertainment.
But ok its fast, but (apart from its rocket like acceletation) whats it like to drive (apart from as easy as a golf?) is it involving, responsive to input, nimble? Wonder how it'd do on TG's test track, it usualy favours the light and nimble over pure power.
Either I'm used to its pig ugly looks now or its growiong on me too, still have the zonda anyhow...
Hi Guys
First visit to NZ PH but thought i should drop in as i live here and Esprit says good things about you guys. I usually post on the elise forum which is how George and i first met.
I don't think much of the Veryon apart from as an engineering exercise. Too lardy!
My vote is for the F1 LM in orange.
The 911 GT1 is amazing too i was at Le Mans in '98 saw in on track and a road version(white with gold wheels!). Fact of the day -its the only mid engined 911.
See ya around
Andy
First visit to NZ PH but thought i should drop in as i live here and Esprit says good things about you guys. I usually post on the elise forum which is how George and i first met.
I don't think much of the Veryon apart from as an engineering exercise. Too lardy!
My vote is for the F1 LM in orange.
The 911 GT1 is amazing too i was at Le Mans in '98 saw in on track and a road version(white with gold wheels!). Fact of the day -its the only mid engined 911.
See ya around
Andy
howdy and welcome, the more the merrier!robdickinson said:Funny you should mention that, it achieved almost exactly the same time as the Porsche CGT around the ‘ring. On a previous thread I heard that to go from 250+mph the brakes have to deal with 11 mega joules of energy in 10 seconds. That’s the equivalent of 33 stick of dynamite!
But ok its fast, but (apart from its rocket like acceletation) whats it like to drive (apart from as easy as a golf?) is it involving, responsive to input, nimble? Wonder how it'd do on TG's test track, it usualy favours the light and nimble over pure power.
It’s defiantly a fantastic engineering achievement.
I’ve heard though that Saleen are building an S7 with a special “performance” package to reach 418km/h but I’m sceptical, even if they made it could they replicate the stability at speed and reliability? Where are the countless hours of men in white coats with clipboards trying to brake the engine?
JFK said:
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
I have a real problem with the Macca F1 being compared to the Bugatti. The Macca was expensive, VERY expensive, but it was expensive because it had a specific design brief and an aim to be the ultimate drivers car. Anything that was seen as extravagant on the F1 was justified because because it was there to do the best job for the lightest possible weight. In contrast, how do Bugatti jusitfy 30kGBP indicator stalks? Would carbon fibre not have done the job more cheaply and better?
I doubt if I'll ever see anything as focused as the F1 produced in my lifetime. It was and still is an astonishing achievement and is still the ultimate supercar by a country mile.
I doubt if I'll ever see anything as focused as the F1 produced in my lifetime. It was and still is an astonishing achievement and is still the ultimate supercar by a country mile.
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