Venom 500 maybe going back home!
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You're right, it sucks... and you're banging your head over the same issues that we have been for ages.... don't suppose you can get in touch with dodge USA and get some U-S market door-stickers flown over (or even some US doors!) It's red tape and it sucks, but welcome to NZ... you're going to find that a lot here I'm afraid..... NZ ain't the perfect little jewel many people think it is..... it's a WONDERFUL place, but stupidly and un-necessarily flawed... good luck and keep us posted though, we'll do all we can to help!
Thanks Folks ! I,ll keep you posted.If all else fails we have been told to aply for a frontal impact exemption?Anyone tried this or know how it works?(Yes thats right,a car crash tested for USA,EUROPE and with twin air bags/frontal crumple zones!applying for frontal impact exemption.....nuts...but it may just work!A bit like the Red Tape!)
Presumably all you need is a letter written by a Daimler Chrysler official to state that the vehicle complies to the required standard? Have you tried approaching the local Daimler/Chrysler dealers? If you have what about those in the UK, USA or mainland Europe? Surely one of them will be able to provide you with documentary proof!
The LTSA rules are made-up by small minded w*nkers - the sooner we get rid of them the better for everyone!
The LTSA rules are made-up by small minded w*nkers - the sooner we get rid of them the better for everyone!
jamieheasman said:I heard that some of these people making big decisions don't actually have a drivers licence??...ok not that it should matter, but you would think these people should know their way around a motor
The LTSA rules are made-up by small minded w*nkers - the sooner we get rid of them the better for everyone!
Thanks again for all the input folks!!!Still waiting to hear back from LTSA as Damiler Chrysler are in touch with them,but so far no one from DC wants to put their head on the line and say ya or nay....its very non commital and DC policy is not to issue Statements
>> Edited by venom500 on Wednesday 22 December 21:12
>> Edited by venom500 on Wednesday 22 December 21:12
Venom... I have long since felt your pain... what pisses me off about NZ is that it's got all the ingredients for a utopia! Population density is spot-on, natural surroundings to die for, perfect temperate climate, nice people but it's being spoiled..... NZ was not always like this... even ten years ago things were much less officious, we had an infrastructure in better shape, we had a respected police force and an education system that we could be largely proud of..... these days, socially and beaurocratically things are going down the girgler... un-necessarily.... so close to perfection yet so fricking far away!
Isn't there an election in the next year? 
At times it seems like the current goverment consists of disgruntled ex-teachers. This may be unfair as I'm a little out of touch, but I am concerned as I want to come back home at some stage and bing the Cerbera with me.
I did make some enquiries last year and found the LTSA people I spoke to in Wellington helpful and sympathetic. They acknowleged that the 200 units or less frontal impact exemption cut off was too low. Should've been more like the EU 2000 units.
At times it seems like the current goverment consists of disgruntled ex-teachers. This may be unfair as I'm a little out of touch, but I am concerned as I want to come back home at some stage and bing the Cerbera with me.
I did make some enquiries last year and found the LTSA people I spoke to in Wellington helpful and sympathetic. They acknowleged that the 200 units or less frontal impact exemption cut off was too low. Should've been more like the EU 2000 units.
Sounds to me like Daimler/Chrsyler could be run by the LTSA! If they built the car and tested them they should be able to back it up with some documentation - bunch of twats!
As anyone will tell you I'm here in NZ against my will (my wife is a Kiwi and has me over a barrel - two kids, dog etc) but that's not to say that I don't like NZ, because I do. All countries have their problems, the UK included, and it's easy to let a couple of issues cloud your judgement (especially when it's to do with your automotive pride-and-joy!). I'm confident you will get the Viper sorted and once that is out of the way things will start to look better.
With your line of work you can live almost anywhere in NZ - get out of the major cities and buy yourself a piece of land. You can't go and buy XXX acres in the UK cos it's too expensive but you can in NZ. You can walk/drive/ride to your hearts content then all on your own property!
If I could work anywhere I certainly wouldn't be in Auckland - I'd probably be in a little town somewhere in the South Island - less congestion, more relaxed atmosphere and much cheaper real estate.
Keep your chin up and try to stay positive!
As anyone will tell you I'm here in NZ against my will (my wife is a Kiwi and has me over a barrel - two kids, dog etc) but that's not to say that I don't like NZ, because I do. All countries have their problems, the UK included, and it's easy to let a couple of issues cloud your judgement (especially when it's to do with your automotive pride-and-joy!). I'm confident you will get the Viper sorted and once that is out of the way things will start to look better.
With your line of work you can live almost anywhere in NZ - get out of the major cities and buy yourself a piece of land. You can't go and buy XXX acres in the UK cos it's too expensive but you can in NZ. You can walk/drive/ride to your hearts content then all on your own property!
If I could work anywhere I certainly wouldn't be in Auckland - I'd probably be in a little town somewhere in the South Island - less congestion, more relaxed atmosphere and much cheaper real estate.
Keep your chin up and try to stay positive!
sorry your having all the problems with the viper but a word from another perspective.I feel, having lived for most of my life in the UK and only the last 3 years in NZ that the red tape here is minimal.Yes, the LTSA is an exception to the rule but on the whole there just isn't the problems we faced in the UK.
For example, today i drove around town on a 4 wheeler, did over 100kph up gravel roads out of Gore and stopped and talked to the local police.They did'nt even question me as to what i was doing, they thought it was too wet to be riding around on a 4 wheeler.
As for riding horses over anywhere, no one i know minds me riding dirt bikes flat out from Gore to Queenstown over the high country, you just have to ask, infact i've yet to have any negative experiences here in NZ's south.Doing business here is the easiest if ever found it globally!I'm out every day and have had the pleasure of meeting thousands of people, all of whom have been more than helpful and more than willing to make the effort.This alone makes NZ for me far better a place to live than the UK ever was.
Be fair, put things into perspective, i know this one thing must be annoying but on the grand scale of things it is little more than a needle in a haystack.
One Pomme piece of advice i can give from my time here is things do not happen at the same speed as they do in the UK, be patient and keep pushing it.Accept it will be far slower, this isn't the UK or the States and we have no right to demand satisfaction.NZ's citizens do not need anyone,they've managed just fine for the last couple of hundred years, we choose to come here and be guests, be accepted then consider it home.I wish you luck all the same though.
For example, today i drove around town on a 4 wheeler, did over 100kph up gravel roads out of Gore and stopped and talked to the local police.They did'nt even question me as to what i was doing, they thought it was too wet to be riding around on a 4 wheeler.
As for riding horses over anywhere, no one i know minds me riding dirt bikes flat out from Gore to Queenstown over the high country, you just have to ask, infact i've yet to have any negative experiences here in NZ's south.Doing business here is the easiest if ever found it globally!I'm out every day and have had the pleasure of meeting thousands of people, all of whom have been more than helpful and more than willing to make the effort.This alone makes NZ for me far better a place to live than the UK ever was.
Be fair, put things into perspective, i know this one thing must be annoying but on the grand scale of things it is little more than a needle in a haystack.
One Pomme piece of advice i can give from my time here is things do not happen at the same speed as they do in the UK, be patient and keep pushing it.Accept it will be far slower, this isn't the UK or the States and we have no right to demand satisfaction.NZ's citizens do not need anyone,they've managed just fine for the last couple of hundred years, we choose to come here and be guests, be accepted then consider it home.I wish you luck all the same though.
) have been complaining about for ages. 
Wonderful news! I guess the bunch at DaimlerChrysler aren't such a bad bunch after all! I'd have thought that even though it's their policy not to issue compliance letters, they'd be willing to make an exception for the owner of what is really their most exclusive, flagship car! After all it's not as if there's any work involved, just some paper-pusher at DC has to fax them a copy of proof that the two cars share the same frontal impact regs.
Now all I have to do is trick Renault into sending the LTSA a piece of paer telling them that they have proof that the TVR Tuscan S has the same frontal impact rating as a Renault Megane and then I'll be set!
Now all I have to do is trick Renault into sending the LTSA a piece of paer telling them that they have proof that the TVR Tuscan S has the same frontal impact rating as a Renault Megane and then I'll be set!
Viper said:
Time to scorch some NZ tarmac, get that car put back together then GO VENOM GO ! 
you know your gonna have to go a lot faster than 180mph next year to save face
I,m not sure there is a Long Enough runway or road for Sarah to ever improve on that speed!Venom 500 is going to just have to enjoy a sub 100k retirement!.......Unless..?..TOTB4...?
Esprit said:
Wonderful news! I guess the bunch at DaimlerChrysler aren't such a bad bunch after all! I'd have thought that even though it's their policy not to issue compliance letters, they'd be willing to make an exception for the owner of what is really their most exclusive, flagship car! After all it's not as if there's any work involved, just some paper-pusher at DC has to fax them a copy of proof that the two cars share the same frontal impact regs.
Now all I have to do is trick Renault into sending the LTSA a piece of paer telling them that they have proof that the TVR Tuscan S has the same frontal impact rating as a Renault Megane and then I'll be set!
Many Thanks Esprit,Were very happy to have got this sorted out as i was starting to think it was not going to happen.Merry Xmas to you and I wish you all the best with the TIV,I,m sure you will get it sorted if you keep on,or even try for an exemption cert?
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