Emigrating to NZ

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prg123

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1,322 posts

168 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Hi

We are thinking of emigrating to NZ..... I currently work as an IT Consultant and have over 20 years experience in the field.

However I don't have a degree. Will this affect my application?

I'm going to be contacting a number of Agencies in the next few weeks so that I can get them to line up interviews and I will go over and spend 3 weeks or so so that I can go to interviews and get an idea of the possible locations.

At present I am thinking either Wellington or Adelaide what are your views of each?

We will also be taking our two children aged 12 and 8. What is the schooling like in NZ? Also we will be taking our golden retriever will she be quarantine in NZ and if so how long for?

We also would like to take our cars with us ( mini, R8) and motorbike, would the cost be too prohibitive to do this or should we sell first?

(Hopefully this thread won't turn into a slanging match between people who like NZ and people who don't)
Thanks

Pete

GravelBen

15,831 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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prg123 said:
Hi

We are thinking of emigrating to NZ..... I currently work as an IT Consultant and have over 20 years experience in the field.

However I don't have a degree. Will this affect my application?
Not sure how much difference the lack of degree would make to your application, they take into account a range of factors so the experience should count for something too, I think if you have a job offer on the table its a big plus. The agencies you're talking to about jobs should be able to give more specific advice on your situation. Try here for the points scheme:

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/pointsindicator/

No idea about schooling sorry, I don't have kids! hehe As far as I'm aware NZ usually ranks fairly well in international comparisons.

As far as bringing your cars, its simple enough (as long as they meet relevant emissions/safety standards) but IIRC you will get taxed on the value if you decide to sell them within a certain time of arriving - you should be able to find a few older threads in here on the process. Make sure you do some research on equivalent value in the used market here to decide if its worth bringing them with you, for some cars its worth it and others it can be better to sell and buy one the same when you arrive.

I'm sure others on here know more about the process than me, but perhaps they've been put off by the *other* thread.

Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 18th May 03:17

Omerta

2,013 posts

256 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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What sort of IT work do you do and what industry sector/s have you worked in?

Wellington is pretty dead at the moment (just ask our PM) after years of public sector cuts, but some skills are always in demand.

Coming out before committing is the right thing to do - if you've got any questions about what to do, who to see, etc while you're here feel free to chuck them up here as there's a few of us Wellington based who might help.

prg123

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1,322 posts

168 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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I'm a business intelligence technical architect .... Working on large data warehouse solutions.

I'm currently working on transport for Londons oyster reporting platform designing and developing it.

I've also worked as a DBA & as a .NET developer. But my .Net skills are a little out of date now.


I can pretty much turn my hand at anything IT related as I have over 20 years in the field

Pete

Omerta

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256 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Im not an expert in your area but a fair bit of the consulting work I do touches on technology functions and I talk to enterprise and solution architects quite often. This is how I see it but your specialist recruitment companies should know better.

Most of the work at your level will be in Government which as I said is a bit depressed currently, but there is a thriving tech sector in Wellington led by the likes of Weta Digital and more recently Xero (who are recruiting - google them and see what vacancies they are listing). Depending on how much job security you're seeking you might find opportunities with start-up ventures. There is a small banking and insurance sector - most of the head office functions have long since moved to Auckland or Australia though.

Having a broad set of skills is a plus here as very few enterprises in NZ have the scale to employ individuals with narrow/deep specialist skillsets (unlike in the UK). Whether quals matter depends on who's doing the hiring - at your level I would say capability and experience and a strong interview should count for more than a computer science degree, but in a tight job market with many applicants you may not get past the cv filtering stage without one.

Not sure if that helps - happy to meet for a beer/coffee when you're in town if you like.

ETA- I see you're in Thames Valley... I worked at the end of the A329M for a few years.

Edited by Omerta on Saturday 18th May 10:12

lestag

4,614 posts

281 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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prg123 said:
I'm a business intelligence technical architect .... Working on large data warehouse solutions.
I'm currently working on transport for Londons oyster reporting platform designing and developing it.
I can pretty much turn my hand at anything IT related as I have over 20 years in the field

Pete
Auckland and wellington councils could be an option.
Auckland transport use a oyster equiv.
http://www.athop.co.nz/Pages/default.aspx
(I know its not wellington)
Thales could also be relevant as they are the suppliers of the HOP card
http://www.thalesgroup.com/NewZealand/Home/

Really look at seek
http://www.seek.co.nz/JobSearch?DateRange=31&&...

I did see this one a week or two ago
"big data"
http://www.seek.co.nz/Job/ready-to-add-value-from-...

lestag

4,614 posts

281 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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prg123 said:
At present I am thinking either Wellington or Adelaide what are your views of each?
Depends if you like the heat or not.

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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prg123 said:
I'm a business intelligence technical architect .... Working on large data warehouse solutions.

I'm currently working on transport for Londons oyster reporting platform designing and developing it.

I've also worked as a DBA & as a .NET developer. But my .Net skills are a little out of date now.


I can pretty much turn my hand at anything IT related as I have over 20 years in the field

Pete
There is a bit of work going on with rolling out oyster-like electronic ticketing in NZ at the mo, and that's being managed by the NZTA. http://www.nzta.govt.nz/about/careers/internationa... There are usually quite a few other IT projects going on in the government sector that could use experienced people such as yourself.

REMF

61 posts

137 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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GravelBen said:
Not sure how much difference the lack of degree would make to your application, they take into account a range of factors so the experience should count for something too, I think if you have a job offer on the table its a big plus. The agencies you're talking to about jobs should be able to give more specific advice on your situation. Try here for the points scheme:

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/pointsindicator/

No idea about schooling sorry, I don't have kids! hehe As far as I'm aware NZ usually ranks fairly well in international comparisons.

As far as bringing your cars, its simple enough (as long as they meet relevant emissions/safety standards) but IIRC you will get taxed on the value if you decide to sell them within a certain time of arriving - you should be able to find a few older threads in here on the process. Make sure you do some research on equivalent value in the used market here to decide if its worth bringing them with you, for some cars its worth it and others it can be better to sell and buy one the same when you arrive.

I'm sure others on here know more about the process than me, but perhaps they've been put off by the *other* thread.

Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 18th May 03:17
Is that the other thread where the land of milk and honey perspective was called out and tested? Where the comments about there being a lot of corruption here were reported as trolling and removed effectively killing the thread despite a number of other posters calling my comments spot on?

Well, that's how it works here OP, don't say anything negative, don't rock the boat; I say to the OP, don't come here, you will regret it, you've worked on an infrastructure capital project in one of the most vibrant cities on God's earth, why on earth would you want to come here? You won't last a year, if you don't die of boredom, you'll be ground into the soil as a tall poppy, you won't even have to say anything, your background and ability will do that for you.

As for immmigration requirements, you need to prove that you can do something that the locals can't so you might struggle to pass the labour market tests without a formal degree and experience - why employ one of you when they can get 4 Indian's for the same money and they'll all have degrees.

All I want to say is think very carefully, once you're here as a resident, it's bloody hard to get back to Europe if it doesn't work out for you.

Esprit

6,370 posts

288 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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More inaccurate horsest from REMF there.

REMF, stay on topic or shut it.

REMF

61 posts

137 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Esprit said:
More inaccurate horsest from REMF there.

REMF, stay on topic or shut it.
No it's not, I think what you mean is that you disagree with my perspective.

As for shutting it, oh dear.

OP, this is New Zealand, this is what you can expect if you step out of line.

Esprit

6,370 posts

288 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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REMF said:
No it's not, I think what you mean is that you disagree with my perspective.

As for shutting it, oh dear.

OP, this is New Zealand, this is what you can expect if you step out of line.
No, you're giving blatantly wrong information with regard to what the OP asked. Giving opinion is one thing but stating blatantly incorrect things as a matter of fact then insulting a country when called out on it is just a typical MO for your posts on here. It's also why I suspect you have a hard time in NZ, because an attitude like that doesn't tend to be met with open arms over here.

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

215 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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REMF said:
No it's not, I think what you mean is that you disagree with my perspective.

As for shutting it, oh dear.

OP, this is New Zealand, this is what you can expect if you step out of line.
REMF. You've made your position abundantly clear in the other thread, and it sounds like the OP has read that one too. Can we just take your opinion as read and move on with answering his questions? It sounds like he's quite capable of thinking for himself and making his own decisions. If he chooses to ignore you that's up to him and I suspect there isn't much to be gained by working yourself into a lather about it.

It would be nice if we could avoid derailing this thread with more pointless bickering.


ETA - OP: Just wanted to answer your question on the cars - the R8 won't be a problem, and neither will the motorbike. Both will be economic to bring over. The Mini will be a little less straightforward due to the vehicle standards regs, but it should be possible to sort something out provided you get in touch with the NZTA before you ship it.


Edited by uncinqsix on Sunday 19th May 07:05

prg123

Original Poster:

1,322 posts

168 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Thanks for All your answers so far ( with he exception of remf - please ps off)

Keep em coming :-)


prg123

Original Poster:

1,322 posts

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Sunday 19th May 2013
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Omerta said:
Im not an expert in your area but a fair bit of the consulting work I do touches on technology functions and I talk to enterprise and solution architects quite often. This is how I see it but your specialist recruitment companies should know better.

Most of the work at your level will be in Government which as I said is a bit depressed currently, but there is a thriving tech sector in Wellington led by the likes of Weta Digital and more recently Xero (who are recruiting - google them and see what vacancies they are listing). Depending on how much job security you're seeking you might find opportunities with start-up ventures. There is a small banking and insurance sector - most of the head office functions have long since moved to Auckland or Australia though.

Having a broad set of skills is a plus here as very few enterprises in NZ have the scale to employ individuals with narrow/deep specialist skillsets (unlike in the UK). Whether quals matter depends on who's doing the hiring - at your level I would say capability and experience and a strong interview should count for more than a computer science degree, but in a tight job market with many applicants you may not get past the cv filtering stage without one.

Not sure if that helps - happy to meet for a beer/coffee when you're in town if you like.

ETA- I see you're in Thames Valley... I worked at the end of the A329M for a few years.

Edited by Omerta on Saturday 18th May 10:12
Cool many thanks ill look up the companies you mention..... I live in Bracknell what companies did you work for?

Marksteamnz

196 posts

220 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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You should do OK. My wife can out 16 years ago on holiday with an IBM IT background and on the last day of her 4 holiday weeks here clicked on a job doing software systems support and selling for a company that sold finacial and warehouse solutions package. Can't offer a link as she quit to go farming 6 years ago. It doesn't make the news but there is a thriving electronics and software industry in NZ. If you are good and flexible the word gets round. I do jigs for some of the electronics companies based in NZ and everyone knows everyone. I know a contract manager in IT I can run this by if you want.
Cheers
Mark


prg123 said:
Hi

We are thinking of emigrating to NZ..... I currently work as an IT Consultant and have over 20 years experience in the field.

However I don't have a degree. Will this affect my application?

I'm going to be contacting a number of Agencies in the next few weeks so that I can get them to line up interviews and I will go over and spend 3 weeks or so so that I can go to interviews and get an idea of the possible locations.

At present I am thinking either Wellington or Adelaide what are your views of each?

We will also be taking our two children aged 12 and 8. What is the schooling like in NZ? Also we will be taking our golden retriever will she be quarantine in NZ and if so how long for?

We also would like to take our cars with us ( mini, R8) and motorbike, would the cost be too prohibitive to do this or should we sell first?

(Hopefully this thread won't turn into a slanging match between people who like NZ and people who don't)
Thanks

Pete

Omerta

2,013 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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prg123 said:
what companies did you work for?
That was Microsoft, and lived in a few places around the area. Nice part of the world with the various Thames-side villages, London within reach and Cotswold countryside close by.

prg123

Original Poster:

1,322 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Marksteamnz said:
You should do OK. My wife can out 16 years ago on holiday with an IBM IT background and on the last day of her 4 holiday weeks here clicked on a job doing software systems support and selling for a company that sold finacial and warehouse solutions package. Can't offer a link as she quit to go farming 6 years ago. It doesn't make the news but there is a thriving electronics and software industry in NZ. If you are good and flexible the word gets round. I do jigs for some of the electronics companies based in NZ and everyone knows everyone. I know a contract manager in IT I can run this by if you want.
Cheers
Mark


prg123 said:
Hi

We are thinking of emigrating to NZ..... I currently work as an IT Consultant and have over 20 years experience in the field.

However I don't have a degree. Will this affect my application?

I'm going to be contacting a number of Agencies in the next few weeks so that I can get them to line up interviews and I will go over and spend 3 weeks or so so that I can go to interviews and get an idea of the possible locations.

At present I am thinking either Wellington or Adelaide what are your views of each?

We will also be taking our two children aged 12 and 8. What is the schooling like in NZ? Also we will be taking our golden retriever will she be quarantine in NZ and if so how long for?

We also would like to take our cars with us ( mini, R8) and motorbike, would the cost be too prohibitive to do this or should we sell first?

(Hopefully this thread won't turn into a slanging match between people who like NZ and people who don't)
Thanks

Pete
Thanks mark that would be great if you pm me ill send you my CV if that helps

Cheers

Pete

prg123

Original Poster:

1,322 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Quick update,,,,, I've got a Skype interview with Kiwi bank this Thursday so cross fingers :-)

- Pete

Omerta

2,013 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Good luck - they are a good employer, growth business and one of the few large(ish) non government options you've got.