New WOF rules announced
Discussion
CR6ZZ said:
Sensible move.
nah I don't think so. And no I don't work for MTA ,vtnz, etcI couldn't believe the AA guy on tvnz . Basically " now the person with the old car spending 500 every 6 months to get it up to wof, will now spend 1000 a year and may think of replacing the car." WTF! That means that car is running around for more than 6 months not to WOF stds. MUPPET LOGIC
But what do I know... Only counted 96 cars with one headlight driving from whg - ham one when night...
Yeah, saw that interview. What the AA guy said was utter TRASH.
What I reckon will really happen is that more drivers will take the risk of no WOF, or see if they can get a fake one. There's no evidence that mechanical faults make up a significant cause of accidents, or that it will rise if all cars go to one year tests.
It really sucks for us classic car owners, who are still stuck with a 6 month WOF, when they don't do many miles and are probably in better nick than many high mileage cars which are a lot younger...
What I reckon will really happen is that more drivers will take the risk of no WOF, or see if they can get a fake one. There's no evidence that mechanical faults make up a significant cause of accidents, or that it will rise if all cars go to one year tests.
It really sucks for us classic car owners, who are still stuck with a 6 month WOF, when they don't do many miles and are probably in better nick than many high mileage cars which are a lot younger...
I stand by my original comment - Overall, I think it is a sensible move for modern cars. There will always be exceptions, whether they be modern cars where the owner is not "car aware" or for older cars that are not driven much. I wonder how my recreation GT40 will be viewed when it finally gets finished. i.e. will it be viewed as an old car (it has a 1969 V8 and as many original 60s parts as I could find included in the build) and have to be warranted every 6 months or, because but will likely be first registered sometime within the next 2-3 years, will it be subject to 12 month WOFs? Hmmmm...
CR6ZZ said:
Overall, I think it is a sensible move for modern cars.
Define modern? Basically, they are freeing it at 2000 year, meaning in 10 years time we are likely to see 23 year old cars on the road that only have to be WOF, once a year. NZ is not suddenly going to change into a modern ( mainly 10 year old) car fleet.I do agree about the new cars going to 3 years as they will usually be serviced in those 3 years by the owners, to be covered by the new car warranty.
Actually I didn't say, but personally think the one year for all vehicles is a sensible compromise too, and I don't see the risks increasing much at all.
Sure, there are horror stories about some cars being driven around, but that's going to happen anyway.
I also wonder if insurance should be made compulsory, but it's complicated by ACC I guess.
Sure, there are horror stories about some cars being driven around, but that's going to happen anyway.
I also wonder if insurance should be made compulsory, but it's complicated by ACC I guess.
Regarding ACC, there may be changes in the future. The Q&As here on the NZTA website say:
Why can’t the Annual vehicle licensing fee (commonly known as registration) be collected on petrol tax or through insurance?
Options for this type of fundamental reform were not considered as part of this review because the ACC and the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment are currently investigating options for the future collection of the ACC motor vehicle levy. This includes investigating the alignment between safety risk and cost factors posed by a particular driver or vehicle. The ACC investigation might affect how the motor vehicle levy is collected in the future, which could have a significant impact on the annual vehicle licensing system.
The graph on the same page indicates that over 1% of almost new crashed cars have a WoF fault, yet only 2% of 19 year old cars have. That sounds wrong, and doesn't support their arguments.
Why can’t the Annual vehicle licensing fee (commonly known as registration) be collected on petrol tax or through insurance?
Options for this type of fundamental reform were not considered as part of this review because the ACC and the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment are currently investigating options for the future collection of the ACC motor vehicle levy. This includes investigating the alignment between safety risk and cost factors posed by a particular driver or vehicle. The ACC investigation might affect how the motor vehicle levy is collected in the future, which could have a significant impact on the annual vehicle licensing system.
The graph on the same page indicates that over 1% of almost new crashed cars have a WoF fault, yet only 2% of 19 year old cars have. That sounds wrong, and doesn't support their arguments.
I don't support this despite the fact it'll mean three less WOF's a year. It gives far too much credit to the majority of muppets out there that assume because they havn't yet failed a WOF their car is fine.
It will save me a few dollars a year in wof's but it wont save me any money in car repairs as itll still break at the same rate. Like most people I drop my car off on the way to work and pick it up afterwards so it won't even save me any inconvenience.
It will save me a few dollars a year in wof's but it wont save me any money in car repairs as itll still break at the same rate. Like most people I drop my car off on the way to work and pick it up afterwards so it won't even save me any inconvenience.
I support the changes.
I'm all for more personal responsibility on the maintenance of cars.
Other than tyres, which are plainly visible to owners and enforcers alike, there's not a lot on cars that's fine one year and dangerous the next. Yes, a balljoint might be a bit sloppy after a year but it's not likely to be at a dangerous state. Even brakes aren't likely to need replacing in that time provided there's enough meat on them.
So it comes down to tyres.... something ANY owner, regardless of car-knowledge should be looking at once a week or so, and be easily able to identify. Also something that parking wardens and police officers can easily check at a glance, and ticket accordingly.
Given that historically between 2 and 4 deaths each year are directly attributable to vehicle maintenance, and in almost ALL of those cases it's bald tyres in the wet that are the biggest contributor..... I don't see a problem with the new rules.
I'm all for more personal responsibility on the maintenance of cars.
Other than tyres, which are plainly visible to owners and enforcers alike, there's not a lot on cars that's fine one year and dangerous the next. Yes, a balljoint might be a bit sloppy after a year but it's not likely to be at a dangerous state. Even brakes aren't likely to need replacing in that time provided there's enough meat on them.
So it comes down to tyres.... something ANY owner, regardless of car-knowledge should be looking at once a week or so, and be easily able to identify. Also something that parking wardens and police officers can easily check at a glance, and ticket accordingly.
Given that historically between 2 and 4 deaths each year are directly attributable to vehicle maintenance, and in almost ALL of those cases it's bald tyres in the wet that are the biggest contributor..... I don't see a problem with the new rules.
Esprit said:
Also something that parking wardens and police officers can easily check at a glance, and ticket
Or the privatized WOF Nazis that may end up doing on the spot roadside inspections. It was suggested in an interview that WOF policing could be contracted out to the private sector. Done.....
http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9022550/Warrant-of...
Main change points are:
- new light vehicles (vehicles weighing under 3.5 tonnes) to have an initial WoF inspection, then no further inspections until the vehicle is three years-old.
- light vehicles three years or older, first registered anywhere in the world on or after 1 January 2000, to move to annual inspections.
- light vehicles first registered anywhere before January 1, 2000, to remain permanently on six monthly inspections.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9022550/Warrant-of...
Main change points are:
- new light vehicles (vehicles weighing under 3.5 tonnes) to have an initial WoF inspection, then no further inspections until the vehicle is three years-old.
- light vehicles three years or older, first registered anywhere in the world on or after 1 January 2000, to move to annual inspections.
- light vehicles first registered anywhere before January 1, 2000, to remain permanently on six monthly inspections.
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