Special Interest Vehicle permits

[Dan M]

NZTA have allocated all of teh 200 SIV permits for this year so if you're thinking of bringing a car in you need to apply to get on teh 2013 list. They are thinking about raising it to 500 but this may not take effect by next year.

For info, here is what got SIV permits this year (I know it doesn't add up to 200, I'll ask NZTA why):
26 Skyline GTRs
26 Corvettes
11 TVRs
46 Mustangs
22 Camaros
6 Jaguars
5 Porsches
3 Ferraris

And the LHD permits (limit of 500 per year) were for:
119 Mustangs
62 Camaros
41 Corvettes
4 Vipers
19 Challengers

Dan

[SkylineObsession]

Can't get my Ferrari F50, Koenigsegg CCR, Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3, Lamborghini Diablo GTR, Lamborghini Countach LP5000S, 997 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (green with black decals), and Weigert Vector W8 TwinTurbo this year then.

Hope they do raise it to 500 though, just incase i do win Powerball/Big Wednesday. Will be a lot of nice cars coming down to live in Dunedin if so.

Back to the real world, thanks for that info though - wonder how many ended up down south.

[Esprit]

SkylineObsession said:

Can't get my Ferrari F50, Koenigsegg CCR, Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3, Lamborghini Diablo GTR, Lamborghini Countach LP5000S, 997 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (green with black decals), and Weigert Vector W8 TwinTurbo this year then.

Hope they do raise it to 500 though, just incase i do win Powerball/Big Wednesday. Will be a lot of nice cars coming down to live in Dunedin if so.

Back to the real world, thanks for that info though - wonder how many ended up down south.

More real-world raining on your parade. You can only apply for one SIV every 2 years and you can't own more than one SIV vehicle at a time. Mind you, The K'egg, the Zonda and the GT3RS wouldn't need SIVs, the Countach can come in as a classic, as can the horrible Vector thingy, leaving you to choose between the Lambo and the Fezza as to which one gets the SIV

[SkylineObsession]

Esprit said:

you can't own more than one SIV vehicle at a time.

Say what? o_O That seems a bit unfair?

F50 would be the first car i'd look at buying/importing. Guy i know down here (who owns a 550 Marenello, 575 SuperAmerica, 599GTB and a C6 ZR-1 Corvette) said he wants one too i think.

F355 GTS, SL55 AMG and a couple of others i should hopefully already find in NZ. And will hopefully buy one of the F40's in the country too if i can persuade them to sell.

I wish everything was as free as dreams.

[limezed]

I was one of the fotunate 200. One more TVR on the roads here. A big thanks to people like Jim Gamsby and you Dan, that have pushed to make the SIV option possible.

[limezed]

I was one of the fotunate 200. One more TVR on the roads here. A big thanks to people like Jim Gamsby and you Dan, that have pushed to make the SIV option possible.

Edited by limezed on Friday 31st August 10:15

[mark387mw]

Dan M said:

And the LHD permits (limit of 500 per year) were for:
119 Mustangs
62 Camaros
41 Corvettes
4 Vipers
19 Challengers

Dan

Does that mean the LHD quota is still open, or now the SIV has finished, so has LHD?

I'd like a Corvette but the dealers want a $10k premium so looking at doing it myself when the time is right.
there is an early C6 rego IIC6II which was at Turners. Didn't sell but has fell off the radar and I can't trace who has it.

Also, does that mean the dealers with cars already here but no permit for the new owner will have to wait until 2013?
There is some stock to shift for those dealers, maybe I'll get a deal and wait to next year to SIV it??? Possible??

Edited by mark387mw on Saturday 1st September 00:10

[uncinqsix]

mark387mw said:

Does that mean the LHD quota is still open, or now the SIV has finished, so has LHD?

I'd like a Corvette but the dealers want a $10k premium so looking at doing it myself when the time is right.
there is an early C6 rego IIC6II which was at Turners. Didn't sell but has fell off the radar and I can't trace who has it.

Also, does that mean the dealers with cars already here but no permit for the new owner will have to wait until 2013?
There is some stock to shift for those dealers, maybe I'll get a deal and wait to next year to SIV it??? Possible??

Edited by mark387mw on Saturday 1st September 00:10

Plenty of LHD permits left - the two quotas run independently of each other. The only problem would be if the car you were looking at needed emissions as well as LHD, but a C6 (or something around that age) should be fine on that count.

[jatopack]

Esprit said:

SkylineObsession said:

Can't get my Ferrari F50, Koenigsegg CCR, Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3, Lamborghini Diablo GTR, Lamborghini Countach LP5000S, 997 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (green with black decals), and Weigert Vector W8 TwinTurbo this year then.

Hope they do raise it to 500 though, just incase i do win Powerball/Big Wednesday. Will be a lot of nice cars coming down to live in Dunedin if so.

Back to the real world, thanks for that info though - wonder how many ended up down south.

More real-world raining on your parade. You can only apply for one SIV every 2 years and you can't own more than one SIV vehicle at a time. Mind you, The K'egg, the Zonda and the GT3RS wouldn't need SIVs, the Countach can come in as a classic, as can the horrible Vector thingy, leaving you to choose between the Lambo and the Fezza as to which one gets the SIV

Whoops - I always puzzled at this - had to keep the car for four years - could not get another licence within 2 years AND could not have two SIV registed in your own name. I should have read the form completely, someone was waiting for the second birthday to come along - still I am NOW going to read the legislation.

I guess my sister is going to end up with a TVR registered in her name come 1 January 2013.

How do 46 Mustangs make the list - I would have thought they be LHD permits?

[Brendon NZ]

jatopack said:

Whoops - I always puzzled at this - had to keep the car for four years - could not get another licence within 2 years AND could not have two SIV registed in your own name. I should have read the form completely, someone was waiting for the second birthday to come along - still I am NOW going to read the legislation.

I guess my sister is going to end up with a TVR registered in her name come 1 January 2013.

How do 46 Mustangs make the list - I would have thought they be LHD permits?

"AND not have 2 SIV registered in your name".....not sure if this is correct. or if it is policed/checked properly...I know of at least 2 people with more than 1 SIV registered.....!!!

[Dan M]

jatopack said:

How do 46 Mustangs make the list - I would have thought they be LHD permits?

If it is LHD and doesn't meet emissions you need to apply for both an SIV permit and a LHD permit, so these Mustangs will be older models, between about 5 and 20 years old.

[Atom Johnny]

Brendon NZ said:

"AND not have 2 SIV registered in your name".....not sure if this is correct. or if it is policed/checked properly...I know of at least 2 people with more than 1 SIV registered.....!!!

NZTA website reads the following for Factsheet 44b - SIVs

You must also comply with the following requirements:

• You must be a New Zealand citizen or resident.
• You must not have received a special interest vehicle permit during the two years before your application.
• You must have another vehicle (eg car, ute, minivan) for your everyday use.
• You must not have any other special interest vehicle registered in your name.
• You must prove the other necessary standards for the vehicle year.

[SkylineObsession]

Wow, are all those requirements REALLY necessary, or is the NZTA just being overly restricting?

A car is a car, who really cares how many you can and can't own?

[uncinqsix]

SkylineObsession said:

Wow, are all those requirements REALLY necessary, or is the NZTA just being overly restricting?

A car is a car, who really cares how many you can and can't own?

The restrictions are there mainly to stop commercial dealers exploiting the system, and is a somewhat crude way of ensuring the permits get distributed evenly to genuine enthusiasts.

Bear in mind that this process exempts you from some pretty strict standards requirements, so there is always going to be a catch with it. It's not a perfect system, but it's probably the best you're going to get at the moment...

[jatopack]

uncinqsix said:

SkylineObsession said:

Wow, are all those requirements REALLY necessary, or is the NZTA just being overly restricting?

A car is a car, who really cares how many you can and can't own?

The restrictions are there mainly to stop commercial dealers exploiting the system, and is a somewhat crude way of ensuring the permits get distributed evenly to genuine enthusiasts.

Bear in mind that this process exempts you from some pretty strict standards requirements, so there is always going to be a catch with it. It's not a perfect system, but it's probably the best you're going to get at the moment...

I have now read the Regulations to the Act - and the Fact sheet is correct - Only allowed ONE SIV at a time, yet allowed to apply for a second SIV permit after two years - guess this is to allow for those that write their pride and joy off...so they can get another....

The system is good, however my orginal submissions were for 500 - based on the belief it kept commercial dealers out, and protected the enthuisiests - however it is now notable the number of dealers bringing in cars and selling them to people and THEN registering.
My understandings and discussions at the time - was dealers were to be sepfically kept out of it - that is NO bringing in cars to on-sell.

[Esprit]

Yeah, the number of Nissan GTRs that come in unregistered, with the paperwork to get them registered after sale on TradeMe is huge.

Also, I've noticed a number of recently SIV'd cars for sale, which leads me to believe the fact that you're not allowed to sell an SIV car for 24 months is being ill-policed.

[hurricane_82]

Just found out my T350 isn't one of the 11 TVR's that made it through this years SIV quota - GUTTED.

[Dan M]

hurricane_82 said:

Just found out my T350 isn't one of the 11 TVR's that made it through this years SIV quota - GUTTED.

The T350 was made in numbers of less than 500 per year, like most TVRs, so it can be classed as a low volume vehicle and be LVV certified instead if you want.

Be aware that this will cost more and there may be more scrutiny - for example a custom independent front suspension needs individual approval, same as a Saker or Lotus 7 replica does.

A TVR hasn't been done this way recently so there would be a bit of discussion on which regulations would need to be met.

Dan

[hurricane_82]

Dan M said:

The T350 was made in numbers of less than 500 per year, like most TVRs, so it can be classed as a low volume vehicle and be LVV certified instead if you want.

Be aware that this will cost more and there may be more scrutiny - for example a custom independent front suspension needs individual approval, same as a Saker or Lotus 7 replica does.

A TVR hasn't been done this way recently so there would be a bit of discussion on which regulations would need to be met.

Dan

I looked into this with Jim and he advised against it due to the process taking a lot longer and ALL the regulations for every single part of the car has to be proved/complied with papers to support them. (This now being very difficult to ascertain from TVR since they don't exist anymore). Also once its LVV certified, it's basically classed as a kit-car.

[Redmist336]

hurricane_82 said:

I looked into this with Jim and he advised against it due to the process taking a lot longer and ALL the regulations for every single part of the car has to be proved/complied with papers to support them. (This now being very difficult to ascertain from TVR since they don't exist anymore). Also once its LVV certified, it's basically classed as a kit-car.

Very true. After SIV you still need to prove everything from seat belt restraints to headrests comply with NZ or Euro standards. I attempted in vain to get anything from TVR, I did however get a contact in the standards authority in the UK and then put them in direct contact with the NZ SIV team for confirmation. They couldn't instruct me to which standards the items had been tested, only that they had been tested. Nor could they release the compliance certs to anyone other than the manufacturer (or possibly the NZ SIV team?).
I suspect that every Cerb before mine had a "compliant" certifier that didn't require the standards certs, or that some Euro cert stickers have been manufacturered in NZ to place on Cerbs that aren't Euro certed.
Trying to get a TVR LVV certed would be next to impossible. I'd be waiting for the SIV number rollover and make sure you're one of the first on the list.