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SkylineObsession

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255 posts

228 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I apologise to those whose topics were removed because of my links - thought they would stay there since they are all well and truley over - but oh well!



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4. Use the forums to harass anyone, including but not limited to posting personal or private information, photos etc without permission from the person to which such information, photos etc relates.
5. Post any material which infringes the copyright, other intellectual property rights or any other rights of any other person.
6. Post links to any site that is pornographic, violent, racist, sexist, voyeuristic or is otherwise offensive or unlawful in any way.
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8. Post links to websites or adverts for commercial or personal gain. All advertising on PistonHeads must be through the normal channels.
9. Create multiple profiles for any purpose, e.g. to escape a previous ban or to allow comments which breach our website terms and conditions or these Posting Rules). This also includes impersonating any other person, real or imaginary.
10. Post material or link to any material that is unlawful or which support, promote or incite unlawful acts etc.
11. Reignite inflammatory threads by creating new threads on the same or similar topics after threads covering a particular topic have been closed.
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13. Attempt to damage PistonHeads via electronic means or implement or attempt to implement a DOS attack.
14. Use a username that contains any reference to a company or website name.
15. Cross-post across the forums.
16. Promote charity events or recruit for charitable donations.



Apparently we've just been getting away with it here in the NZ forum.

And mods, this isn't a personal attack or anything - i'm just letting everyone else know.

squawk7700

190 posts

179 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Been away and so never had a chance to see the offending ads but just the fallout. Its seems with CRM's thread removed PH admin are certainly enforcing the rule. (Or perhaps out of fear that the English would banish CRM to the fatal shores of OZ as punishment he removed it himself?). What a shame. I liked hearing about the occasional car-related charity events and cheap dyno days. I can see the PH admin's point of view and it makes sense in a country like the UK, where with so many people/events the opportunity for abuse is high. But on the NZ forum, where roughly the same small number of people frequent the site, and where there are few car events in general and that number gets smaller as you move south, I liked hearing about the occasional charity run and dyno day.

SkylineObsession

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255 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Me too, i think it is unnecessary to a point.

Been thinking of starting a topic in Website Feedback and asking them to take a different approach to charity events, in regional specific forums. i.e. If there is irrefutable evidence that a charity run is 100% genuine, and that maybe some PH'ers have even attended before, then it should be allowed.

I dunno. All this makes me want to start up a new club in NZ for owners of fancy cars like ya'll have, but i don't have the time or money to do so.

They need to revise the rules or something, because it seems there are a lot of annoyed people out there and its just getting worse (or i'm just noticing it now).

Omerta

2,013 posts

258 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Yep I agree. Understand there's a problem in more populated forums where the policy makes sense, but when we go for days at a time with no posts frankly anything motor related which isn't outright selling is better than nothing. Don't we have our own local moderator who can manage this instead?

Esprit

6,370 posts

290 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Agreed... with the infrequency of posting in here and the fact that the NZ forum is really just a couple of dozen mates who keep in contact via here, I don't see the harm in it... it's not like we're in anyway connected to Haymarket or anything.

Slinky

15,704 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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The rules of posting are applied equally across the site, irrespective of the size of the sub forum I'm afraid folks.

Bull1t

772 posts

290 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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It appears that up till now there has been little in the way of moderation in this forum and it doesn't seem to have been causing any problems. Can one of the moderators please explain the benefit to any poster of this sub-forum from this policy being enforced given it hasnt been in the 11 years I've been here prior to yesterday?

CRM

221 posts

247 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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All good recieved a nice email explaining why. To be honest I didn't even realize I was rulebreaking when posting even after reading the rules less than 24 hours earlier!

Blame in on my EQ brain.

Slinky

15,704 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Bull1t said:
It appears that up till now there has been little in the way of moderation in this forum and it doesn't seem to have been causing any problems. Can one of the moderators please explain the benefit to any poster of this sub-forum from this policy being enforced given it hasnt been in the 11 years I've been here prior to yesterday?
This is about fair and even application of the rules of posting, across all of PH's sub fora.. It is indeed fair to say that there has been little [need for] moderation in this particular area, however a number of threads were recently brought to the attention of the moderators as they transgressed the RoP..

Big Al.

69,102 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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SkylineObsession said:
I apologise to those whose topics were removed because of my links - thought they would stay there since they are all well and truley over - but oh well!
Just for clarification if you check back over the links you posted only the first one was removed as it was a future event.

The second was a member asking for advice so it needed no intervention from the mods, the remaining six IF you had bothered to check as still live. No point in deletion after the event.

So only one Charity post was removed as a result of you bringing it to our attention.

Big Al.

PH site moderator.

SkylineObsession

Original Poster:

255 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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We're obviously up against an infinately reinforced brick wall which will never see the voice of reason here fellas/fellaettes. frown

I say we stage a protest on the streets. biggrin

Big Al.

69,102 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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What time does it start? smile

SkylineObsession

Original Poster:

255 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Big Al. said:
Just for clarification if you check back over the links you posted only the first one was removed as it was a future event.

The second was a member asking for advice so it needed no intervention from the mods, the remaining six IF you had bothered to check as still live. No point in deletion after the event.

So only one Charity post was removed as a result of you bringing it to our attention.
I just guessed they all had been (internet was playing up by going really slow, so never bothered to check the rest).

Who is the head honcho here who makes all the rules?

SkylineObsession

Original Poster:

255 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Big Al. said:
What time does it start? smile
Not sure, there are a lot of streets in this country!

Big Al.

69,102 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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SkylineObsession said:
Who is the head honcho here who makes all the rules?
The company that owns to site is Haymarket, Stuart Forrest is the director of PH his right hand man and the manager of PH is Paul Garlick.

The moderators do not make the rules they only police and enforce those rules.

HTH answer your question? smile

Also seems during that last couple of days that you have turned a very low moderated forum into a high profile one.

That's three us now commenting on this thread Slinky, Gaz and myself, are you going to keep banging on the door or can we go back to sleep now? smile

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Gaz. said:
Hold up a mo, you are the one who asked for consistency so now that's exactly what you've got. You were offered an editorial for your event but you wanted to have an arguement and a whinge instead. Had you taken Garlick up on his offer not only would you have your charity event but you may have had a feature about it on the main homepage of the site.
Without wishing to enflame the main issue further, it is this offer of an editorial that I thought a little unusual. Why exactly this would be offered when 99.99% of the potential readership was on the other side of the planet?? Very generous offer I suppose given those circumstances.

mark387mw

2,188 posts

274 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Aren't some rules meant to be broken? Surely with our small group of readers, these rules don't apply. It is not really promotion of charity or other events for gain, merely a calendar for like minded folks to get together where possible.

willyheatley

62 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Well actually the rules do apply, and while I do break a few rules myself I also like well moderated Forums, and Pistonheads is an enjoyable site.
I am also a firm believer of picking fights you can win, and thinking carefully about the ones that will be hard work.
Trust me, this one will be hard work.
But hey, you go get those dirty moderators if that's your thing!

mark387mw

2,188 posts

274 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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I'm not looking for a fight, just flexibility. I'm too busy and away from the main centres to actually enjoy some of these events.

Perhaps we can have a topic where these things are announced as meetings without any mention of charity or commercial purpose?
Or can the mods suggest an easy way to directly advise such gatherings.

Edited by mark387mw on Thursday 7th July 07:28

Bull1t

772 posts

290 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Big Al. said:
That's three us now commenting on this thread Slinky, Gaz and myself, are you going to keep banging on the door or can we go back to sleep now? smile
So if we agree to not post in this thread or make any further discussion of the rules can you agree to carry on ignoring us as has always previously been the case.
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