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Well I think they are ANPR,
Sprouting up absolutely everywhere, anyone else noticed or know what's going on?
From what I've seen so far and I haven't been out and about much this week;
A26 Glenavy RD at the footbridge
Dublin Rd Antrim
Graystone Rd, Antrim (in construction)
Castle Way, Antrim
A26 Lisvenagh RD/ Woodgreen Rd Junction.
Galgorm Rd, Gracehill
Also noticed a couple of sites in Ballymoney, both the town itself and the bypass.
Sprouting up absolutely everywhere, anyone else noticed or know what's going on?
From what I've seen so far and I haven't been out and about much this week;
A26 Glenavy RD at the footbridge
Dublin Rd Antrim
Graystone Rd, Antrim (in construction)
Castle Way, Antrim
A26 Lisvenagh RD/ Woodgreen Rd Junction.
Galgorm Rd, Gracehill
Also noticed a couple of sites in Ballymoney, both the town itself and the bypass.
They are ANPR operated by the police or military.
Originally they started about 3-4 years ago outside the police stations. But as you say, it seems they are sprouting up every few miles now.
Big Brother really is watching our every movements. And no surprise, they yield absolutely no reduction in crime, and no benefit whatsoever to the public it seems.
Bit I bet they cost a brave few quid.
It's no understatement that we are the most "watched" society in the entire world, with cameras bloody everywhere !!!
Originally they started about 3-4 years ago outside the police stations. But as you say, it seems they are sprouting up every few miles now.
Big Brother really is watching our every movements. And no surprise, they yield absolutely no reduction in crime, and no benefit whatsoever to the public it seems.
Bit I bet they cost a brave few quid.
It's no understatement that we are the most "watched" society in the entire world, with cameras bloody everywhere !!!
Springing up all round Belfast too, not to mention the proliferation of camera vans about now as well.
From the PSNI website - http://www.psni.police.uk/policy_directive_0108_ps...
PSNI will use their ANPR
Systems in a lawful and ethical manner and in relation to the prevention and detection of:
(i) Terrorism;
(ii) Serious Crime;
(iii) Volume Crime;
(iv) Road Traffic Offences.
That last one makes me nervous, average speed network in the making?
From the PSNI website - http://www.psni.police.uk/policy_directive_0108_ps...
PSNI will use their ANPR
Systems in a lawful and ethical manner and in relation to the prevention and detection of:
(i) Terrorism;
(ii) Serious Crime;
(iii) Volume Crime;
(iv) Road Traffic Offences.
That last one makes me nervous, average speed network in the making?
soda said:
Springing up all round Belfast too, not to mention the proliferation of camera vans about now as well.
From the PSNI website - http://www.psni.police.uk/policy_directive_0108_ps...
PSNI will use their ANPR
Systems in a lawful and ethical manner and in relation to the prevention and detection of:
(i) Terrorism;
(ii) Serious Crime;
(iii) Volume Crime;
(iv) Road Traffic Offences.
That last one makes me nervous, average speed network in the making?
or pay even more per mile.From the PSNI website - http://www.psni.police.uk/policy_directive_0108_ps...
PSNI will use their ANPR
Systems in a lawful and ethical manner and in relation to the prevention and detection of:
(i) Terrorism;
(ii) Serious Crime;
(iii) Volume Crime;
(iv) Road Traffic Offences.
That last one makes me nervous, average speed network in the making?
they make these claims about fighting terrorists and crime via ANPR.
Doesnt seem it's working too well, does it ?
There is more to these cameras than they would have us know. Of that you can be sure. They certainly arent for our benefit.
stevieturbo said:
or pay even more per mile.
they make these claims about fighting terrorists and crime via ANPR.
Doesnt seem it's working too well, does it ?
There is more to these cameras than they would have us know. Of that you can be sure. They certainly arent for our benefit.
I can't find anything related to how many they plan on installing or even the locations. They have been provided with £12.9 million of funding for them though, I'm sure that must buy a sthey make these claims about fighting terrorists and crime via ANPR.
Doesnt seem it's working too well, does it ?
There is more to these cameras than they would have us know. Of that you can be sure. They certainly arent for our benefit.
tload of cameras.I can't see how they would help fight terrorism either, it's not like they'll be borrowing their mums Fiesta.
On the plus side if they do plan on making money out of them via speeding/pay per mile I can't imagine too many would be left standing for long.
soda said:
I can't find anything related to how many they plan on installing or even the locations. They have been provided with £12.9 million of funding for them though, I'm sure that must buy a stload of cameras.
I can't see how they would help fight terrorism either, it's not like they'll be borrowing their mums Fiesta.
On the plus side if they do plan on making money out of them via speeding/pay per mile I can't imagine too many would be left standing for long.
I wonder would a Freedom of Information request yield any info on their true usage ?tload of cameras.I can't see how they would help fight terrorism either, it's not like they'll be borrowing their mums Fiesta.
On the plus side if they do plan on making money out of them via speeding/pay per mile I can't imagine too many would be left standing for long.
I'm actually surprised none have been damaged already. But they are being sneaky and saying absolutely nothing about their use or installation.
I did work with some guys installing the first ones outside the police stations. The cameras do seem to focus in on the area where the registration is, and it will attempt to read this and record it. Certainly watching the screen, it didnt appear to focus on the entire vehicle, just the registration.
Whether the actual camera does that, or it is the software doing it, I dont know
Although even on standard plates, it wasnt always correct at reading.
stevieturbo said:
I wonder would a Freedom of Information request yield any info on their true usage ?
I'm actually surprised none have been damaged already. But they are being sneaky and saying absolutely nothing about their use or installation.
I did work with some guys installing the first ones outside the police stations. The cameras do seem to focus in on the area where the registration is, and it will attempt to read this and record it. Certainly watching the screen, it didnt appear to focus on the entire vehicle, just the registration.
Whether the actual camera does that, or it is the software doing it, I dont know
Although even on standard plates, it wasnt always correct at reading.
I've fired off a couple of emails to them, don't ask and you won't get I'm actually surprised none have been damaged already. But they are being sneaky and saying absolutely nothing about their use or installation.
I did work with some guys installing the first ones outside the police stations. The cameras do seem to focus in on the area where the registration is, and it will attempt to read this and record it. Certainly watching the screen, it didnt appear to focus on the entire vehicle, just the registration.
Whether the actual camera does that, or it is the software doing it, I dont know
Although even on standard plates, it wasnt always correct at reading.
I suspect nothing interesting in reply though.Regarding the cameras I'm pretty sure the software is doing all the work. Couple of petrol stations I've been out the back of store an image of the plate, you can look in realtime at the cars coming in and quite often the computer gets the plates wrong. This was in older privately owned stations though so no doubt the systems now are much improved
I'll update with any reply I get from the police but I'll not hold my breath.
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Regarding the cameras I'm pretty sure the software is doing all the work. Couple of petrol stations I've been out the back of store an image of the plate, you can look in realtime at the cars coming in and quite often the computer gets the plates wrong. This was in older privately owned stations though so no doubt the systems now are much improved
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The systems they use are a bit more advanced than those used in petrol stations. I know PSNI have spent a lot of money on technology behind the scenes too, the cameras are just what you can see.
The "normal" motorist has nothing to worry about. I suspect if you have no tax/insurance etc then I'd be worried. Likewise, the primary use is to track vehicles as they move around the place. Terrorists will tell you one thing that made their lives much more difficult was CCTV, this is just the next incarnation
Regarding the cameras I'm pretty sure the software is doing all the work. Couple of petrol stations I've been out the back of store an image of the plate, you can look in realtime at the cars coming in and quite often the computer gets the plates wrong. This was in older privately owned stations though so no doubt the systems now are much improved
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The systems they use are a bit more advanced than those used in petrol stations. I know PSNI have spent a lot of money on technology behind the scenes too, the cameras are just what you can see.
The "normal" motorist has nothing to worry about. I suspect if you have no tax/insurance etc then I'd be worried. Likewise, the primary use is to track vehicles as they move around the place. Terrorists will tell you one thing that made their lives much more difficult was CCTV, this is just the next incarnation
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