Suffolk roads: Arrrrgh!

[supermono]

OMFGA every time I have the misfortune to drive Bungay/Halesworth/A12/Saxmundham to visit my brother in law I swear never again. Just now got home and thank god I don't have to do that again for 12 months.

That Halesworth road must be a really important route through Suffolk and when I used to travel it regularly ~10-15 years ago it was 60 all the way through. Now I think half of it at least (it's 10 miles long I'm guessing) is a random assortment of 30/40. 30 FFS!

But 30 isn't slow enough for the local slowsters, nope it's far safer to do 25 isn't it?

Does anyone have to travel that route on business? I'd relocate my business (and lay people off) if I found I had to drive along there on a regular basis, but I don't suppose the road vandals considered that.

Then there's the A12. One of the most important routes in East Anglia, and that's peppered with 30/40/50s randomly too, and the same moronic slowsters ambling along at 25.

At least there was one thing missing from this trip: the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade, although with that slippery jim road treatment they use, it wasn't easy making the transition from slow->fast necessary to overtake

And...... relax....

SM
ps To whom do I write?

Edited by supermono on Saturday 27th December 20:05

[Simpo Two]

supermono said:

ps To whom do I write?

Suffolk County Council. I remember getting involved with this with the ABD www.abd.org.uk but of course the self-serving overpaid numpties win almost every time. I think it was on that road that someone was done for speeding, but the relevant 30 sign was absent. When the victim contested it, the Council/police snuck out one night and erected one...

[topjay]

There are only two types of driver round there the ones that drive at 25 regardless of the speed limit and the ones that drive at 50. It bears no relation to posted limits and there is no variation in speed for them even at nsl.
It also causes people to try and overtake dangerously at any opputunity.

[sawman]

Up to 2 years ago I used to commute that route between norwich and ipswich - I really loved the section between brooke and the A12 - at the times I travelled it was pretty empty. My mx5 loved it too.

[Paul GTS]

Useless Roads.

I have to travel from Lowestoft to Bungay each morning and im very very lucky If I average 40mph, and its all 50 to 60mph limit.

Most days im stuck behind Mr/Mrs Slow and average at most 35mph.

[mikial]

[quote=supermono]OMFGA every time I have the misfortune to drive Bungay/Halesworth/A12/Saxmundham to visit my brother in law I swear never again. Just now got home and thank god I don't have to do that again for 12 months.

That Halesworth road must be a really important route through Suffolk and when I used to travel it regularly ~10-15 years ago it was 60 all the way through. Now I think half of it at least (it's 10 miles long I'm guessing) is a random assortment of 30/40. 30 FFS!

But 30 isn't slow enough for the local slowsters, nope it's far safer to do 25 isn't it?

Does anyone have to travel that route on business? I'd relocate my business (and lay people off) if I found I had to drive along there on a regular basis, but I don't suppose the road vandals considered that.

Then there's the A12. One of the most important routes in East Anglia, and that's peppered with 30/40/50s randomly too, and the same moronic slowsters ambling along at 25.

At least there was one thing missing from this trip: the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade, although with that slippery jim road treatment they use, it wasn't easy making the transition from slow->fast necessary to overtake

And...... relax....

SM
ps To whom do I write?

Edited by supermono on Saturday 27th December 20:05

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Indeed you are correct.

I regularly use the Bungay to Halesworth road,and the Bungay "Straight". Aside from Bernard Mathews pantechnicons falling off the road and the 25 mph is fast enough brigade , the BIBs lay in wait at strategic places ready to cart you off to the beak if you dare to progress unsociably.

Unfortunately there have been fatalities lately, a truck wiped out a small hatchback turning right betweem Bungay and Ilketshall St Lawrence and late last year just past the entrance to Halesworth golf club another fatality occured.

As for "the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade" not flashing , because they didn`t see you ??

[mr.man]

mikial said:

supermono said:

OMFGA every time I have the misfortune to drive Bungay/Halesworth/A12/Saxmundham to visit my brother in law I swear never again. Just now got home and thank god I don't have to do that again for 12 months.

That Halesworth road must be a really important route through Suffolk and when I used to travel it regularly ~10-15 years ago it was 60 all the way through. Now I think half of it at least (it's 10 miles long I'm guessing) is a random assortment of 30/40. 30 FFS!

But 30 isn't slow enough for the local slowsters, nope it's far safer to do 25 isn't it?

Does anyone have to travel that route on business? I'd relocate my business (and lay people off) if I found I had to drive along there on a regular basis, but I don't suppose the road vandals considered that.

Then there's the A12. One of the most important routes in East Anglia, and that's peppered with 30/40/50s randomly too, and the same moronic slowsters ambling along at 25.

At least there was one thing missing from this trip: the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade, although with that slippery jim road treatment they use, it wasn't easy making the transition from slow->fast necessary to overtake

And...... relax....

SM
ps To whom do I write?

Edited by supermono on Saturday 27th December 20:05

[/quot

Indeed you are correct.

I regularly use the Bungay to Halesworth road,and the Bungay "Straight". Aside from Bernard Mathews pantechnicons falling off the road and the 25 mph is fast enough brigade , the BIBs lay in wait at strategic places ready to cart you off to the beak if you dare to progress unsociably.

Unfortunately there have been fatalities lately, a truck wiped out a small hatchback turning right betweem Bungay and Ilketshall St Lawrence and late last year just past the entrance to Halesworth golf club another fatality occured.

As for "the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade" not flashing , because they didn`t see you ??

I feel a bit more information is due with respect to the recent fatalities. The driver of the lorry that ran into the back of the car waiting to turn right failed to see the car probably because he was not paying attention. Approaching that turn off from the North you have about two hundred yards visabilty. Whatever the speed limit the result would have been the same.
Sadly the single vehicle accident between the Golf Club and Bramfield was a young chef driving to work who crashed into a tree on a bend in the road. Interestingly the 60 mph limit remains on this stretch of road where at the site of the lorry crash we now have a 40mph limit for a duration of about one mile.

[mikial]

mr.man said:

mikial said:

supermono said:

OMFGA every time I have the misfortune to drive Bungay/Halesworth/A12/Saxmundham to visit my brother in law I swear never again. Just now got home and thank god I don't have to do that again for 12 months.

That Halesworth road must be a really important route through Suffolk and when I used to travel it regularly ~10-15 years ago it was 60 all the way through. Now I think half of it at least (it's 10 miles long I'm guessing) is a random assortment of 30/40. 30 FFS!

But 30 isn't slow enough for the local slowsters, nope it's far safer to do 25 isn't it?

Does anyone have to travel that route on business? I'd relocate my business (and lay people off) if I found I had to drive along there on a regular basis, but I don't suppose the road vandals considered that.

Then there's the A12. One of the most important routes in East Anglia, and that's peppered with 30/40/50s randomly too, and the same moronic slowsters ambling along at 25.

At least there was one thing missing from this trip: the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade, although with that slippery jim road treatment they use, it wasn't easy making the transition from slow->fast necessary to overtake

And...... relax....

SM
ps To whom do I write?

Edited by supermono on Saturday 27th December 20:05

[/quot

Indeed you are correct.

I regularly use the Bungay to Halesworth road,and the Bungay "Straight". Aside from Bernard Mathews pantechnicons falling off the road and the 25 mph is fast enough brigade , the BIBs lay in wait at strategic places ready to cart you off to the beak if you dare to progress unsociably.

Unfortunately there have been fatalities lately, a truck wiped out a small hatchback turning right betweem Bungay and Ilketshall St Lawrence and late last year just past the entrance to Halesworth golf club another fatality occured.

As for "the flash-because-you-overtook-me brigade" not flashing , because they didn`t see you ??

I feel a bit more information is due with respect to the recent fatalities. The driver of the lorry that ran into the back of the car waiting to turn right failed to see the car probably because he was not paying attention. Approaching that turn off from the North you have about two hundred yards visabilty. Whatever the speed limit the result would have been the same.
Sadly the single vehicle accident between the Golf Club and Bramfield was a young chef driving to work who crashed into a tree on a bend in the road. Interestingly the 60 mph limit remains on this stretch of road where at the site of the lorry crash we now have a 40mph limit for a duration of about one mile.

As you correctly highlight the speed limit on the Bramfield Road remains at sixty, although I believe the oak tree has caught out previous victims , it`s position being exactly where impact would occur should control be lost, a case for removal would be prudent perhaps. I knew the chef in question. An altogether terrible incident which leaves a young widow and a devastated family.

[Simpo Two]

Of course the proper speed limit for any stretch of road is determined by the driver according to the conditions. Number on tin signs don't change with conditions, so to cope with the worst possible case, say black ice, every limit will have to be lowered to 5mph.

[supermono]

So let me understand: a truck careers into the back of someone turning right because he's asleep so they decree that in future he must career into the back of someone turning right at 40mph. Erm, trucks are already limited to 40mph on that road.

Surely the sensible thing to do (if it's decided that this was a case of a dangerous road instead of a dangerous driver) is to take out a hedge/trees to improve visibility, put up a big sign warning of the possibility of stationary traffic ahead, or to close off the right turn altogether/move it to somewhere more obvious?

These imbeciles must have absolutely no training or aptitude for road safety whatsoever if all they can think of is reducing the speed limit at an accident site. Either that or they're in the pockets of the speed tax collectors who are obviously always going to agree with having some new sites created where speed limits are set inappropriately low. After all if you can create an absurd speed limit you'll reap more money from "policing" it.

However, now that my FOI request has been granted, I can quote from their own official document that: "Suffolk does not differ from the UK which is now facing a situation where progress on reducing fatalities appears stubbornly slow. Suffolk has only seen 3 years (2005, 2007 and 2008) where fatal casualties were less than the 1994-98 average of 42. "

So we're plagued with slowsters, increased journey times and a very lucrative speed tax collection business and are still saddled with poor road safety performance. Probably worth writing a sternogram next time you've returned from a frustrating journey caused by half-wit road planners...

Anyone who wants the word document I've been sent is more than welcome, just PM me.

SM

[Rooster]

topjay said:

There are only two types of driver round there the ones that drive at 25 regardless of the speed limit and the ones that drive at 50. It bears no relation to posted limits and there is no variation in speed for them even at nsl.
It also causes people to try and overtake dangerously at any opputunity.

not quite true, veryearly in the morning and late at night makes the a143 a fun road and you can get quite a lick on

[CTE]

All the speed restrictions, and scamera`s and all over the country....and the road casualty rate has barely changed (from the statistics manipulated for our benefit?)....hmmm.

[burton]

I used to hate having to Travel up to Lowestoft and Beccles and all the others up that way.. Somedays would be a nice run others could be a pain.. But there are worse roads than that in Suffolk.

[Simpo Two]

supermono said:

However, now that my FOI request has been granted, I can quote from their own official document that: "Suffolk does not differ from the UK which is now facing a situation where progress on reducing fatalities appears stubbornly slow. Suffolk has only seen 3 years (2005, 2007 and 2008) where fatal casualties were less than the 1994-98 average of 42. "

Proof that for all their blustering, policemen being pushed onto TV to tell us how bad we are, millions spent on tin signs, millions received in fines and indoctrination of children have achieved precisely nothing other than slower journey times and a burden to the economy.

[topjay]

Rooster said:

topjay said:

There are only two types of driver round there the ones that drive at 25 regardless of the speed limit and the ones that drive at 50. It bears no relation to posted limits and there is no variation in speed for them even at nsl.
It also causes people to try and overtake dangerously at any opputunity.

not quite true, veryearly in the morning and late at night makes the a143 a fun road and you can get quite a lick on

I entirely agree i have had some very enjoyable drives late at night, it just makes it even less enjoyable at other times. When you know what you could be doing and there is some muppet holding up the whole road and going unreasonably slow.

[Chequred Demon]

At least you aren't now burdened with the new "irrational" roundabout on the A47 near Honigham. What ever f'wit thought of that? In bowing to public pressure they have created a far worse scenario, whereby traffic is stacked up on the dual carriageway approaching the Easton roundabout, just waiting for someone to career into the back of two lanes of stationary traffic at 70mph in the rain or fog. One day there is going to be carnage.

This country is run by the media, not by the government or local councils.

[Morningside]

mikial said:

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I regularly use the Bungay to Halesworth road,and the Bungay "Straight"....
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I am nearly always in my Pajero. Cannot miss it as its covered in aerials.


Sodding well tell me about it! I have to head though Halesworth towards Bungay every morning and what total tit thought it was a good idea to create 40Mph limits? Yes I know some parts are bad but to be honest its bordering on the stupid.

Edited by Morningside on Sunday 25th January 17:13

[mikial]

Morningside said:

mikial said:

.....
I regularly use the Bungay to Halesworth road,and the Bungay "Straight"....
.....

I am nearly always in my Pajero. Cannot miss it as its covered in aerials.


Sodding well tell me about it! I have to head though Halesworth towards Bungay every morning and what total tit thought it was a good idea to create 40Mph limits? Yes I know some parts are bad but to be honest its bordering on the stupid.

Edited by Morningside on Sunday 25th January 17:13

Do you have SKY + on board ?

[Morningside]

mikial said:

Morningside said:

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Do you have SKY + on board ?

Nope, but working on it. Its this pesky channel 5 that causes trouble.

BTW: Have you seen that Metro with a massive 10' aerial driving about?

[mikial]

Morningside said:

mikial said:

Morningside said:

<snip>

Do you have SKY + on board ?

Nope, but working on it. Its this pesky channel 5 that causes trouble.

BTW: Have you seen that Metro with a massive 10' aerial driving about?

No Peter, the massive aint reached Suffolk.

Seriously , no not seen the car you highlight.Should I be wary ? What or who is it ?