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LuS1fer

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41,572 posts

251 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Drivers should pay up even if they go to court and win say ministers.

Drivers who challenge motoring prosecutions should be made to pay their legal bills even if they win their case, ministers have said. The proposal would see successful defendants lose their century-old right to claim back their costs.

A change in the law would affect many of the 1.7million drivers a year who take their cases to court. Ministers are proposing that defendants lose their century-old right to claim back their legal costs.


It costs around £1,500 to fight charges of speeding, illegal parking and other motoring offences and this cost would not be fully reimbursed even if a driver was found innocent of all charges.

Peter Roberts CEO of the Drivers' Alliance said "it is fundamentally wrong for the state to financially penalise innocent drivers who are simply seeking justice against a faulty conviction".



Jeanette Miller, of Geoffrey Miller, a leading motoring law firm has raised a petition on the Downing Street website and the Drivers' Alliance urges everyone to sign it. If the principle of innocent until proven guilty is to be upheld in this country then it is imperative people who win a court case are not financially disadvantaged for defending themselves.


You can sign the petition at: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/CostsRecovery/

AR

861 posts

230 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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This is just unbelievable!!!

Thanks for bringing this up.

Cheers,

AR

dav3

132 posts

195 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Good to have some one bring this up...
the rule makers tend to make change by omission or with no public notification so we all carry on blissfully unaware that the law has changed - joe public gets turned over yet again furious

pwd95

8,397 posts

244 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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This needs to be a sticky on 'General Gassing' or even every forum in the country. This is a serious breach of everyone's rights surely. yikes


Fire99

9,844 posts

235 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Signed..

Utter madness......

cen

593 posts

241 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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Desperate measures for desperate times. The motorist fighting back is causing quite a stir when the Judiciary are beginning to realise that cameras in the back of vans are not an accurate measure of speed admitted, by the British Director of the cameras manufacturer a, certain Mr. Garrett who openly admits in the courtroom that the device used a Speedscope Lasertech LTi 20-20 gets it wrong 40% of its use and operator error can add to an increase of errors.

The CPS was not happy when I won an appeal case in Newport Crown Court last Friday. His honour openly laughed at her costs

LuS1fer

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41,572 posts

251 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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cen said:


The CPS was not happy when I won an appeal case in Newport Crown Court last Friday. His honour openly laughed at her costs
...officially. wink

What happened?

cen

593 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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LuS1fer said:
cen said:


The CPS was not happy when I won an appeal case in Newport Crown Court last Friday. His honour openly laughed at her costs
...officially. wink

What happened?
Believe it or not a parking ticket obtained last November. I had attended Newport Crown Court representing a friend in an appeal case. We won however, came out of court to find a parking ticket on my daily run around even though the car was displaying a disabled badge and a valid ticket.

I appealed to the authority issuing the ticket and heard no more. The long and short of it all was that the authority took the matter to court and a hearing was carried out without my knowledge therefore, I did not have the opportunity to state my case.

It turned out the they found me guilty and stacked up the costs. The first I heard was when I received a communication demanding the money or else. Luckily it was within twenty eight days so I appealed and won. The judge was a reasonable chap with a lot of common sence calling the authority draconic and the like.

LuS1fer

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41,572 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Furry muff but that's not the CPS, it's the local authority and they are very different. Give a dog a bad name and all that. wink