thoughts on leaving plates on run pics?
Discussion
I think people are getting a little too worried about the fact that their plates are shown in pictures on the forum.
A little history:
1. In PH years ago, a member got a lot of grief when trying to get an warranty claim sorted by his dealer - the chap had been spotted in a picture looning around at a track day, and this obviously had an impact on his right to warranty.
2. It is suggested that insurers/warranty insurers/car hire people routinely check pictures taken at track days to see if their customers are breaking any terms and conditions. It is suggested that there are several members on PH who have had grief with this.
There is no issues with numberplates landing members in hot water, unless those members are blatantly being planks and admitting to whistling down the M40 at 200mph. This could be seen as admission, and by the Police collaborating with CCTV, you can do the maths.
However a sunday juant, whereupon members are enjoying their cars, legally (in respect to common sense I guess), and not dropping themselves in it, then numberplates are not an issue.
It should be noted however, events like VMax (i.e track days), it is considered very bad form NOT to do so. In public places, you could say that if a member really didn't want his plate shown, then why not?
If you wish to do so, fine, however it is more the onus of the person who wants plates ommited to ask for this to be done.
The police have some powerful means to ask for information and figure things out - so don't think hiding behind PH will help if they really want someones details...
I hope that helps.
Neil
A little history:
1. In PH years ago, a member got a lot of grief when trying to get an warranty claim sorted by his dealer - the chap had been spotted in a picture looning around at a track day, and this obviously had an impact on his right to warranty.
2. It is suggested that insurers/warranty insurers/car hire people routinely check pictures taken at track days to see if their customers are breaking any terms and conditions. It is suggested that there are several members on PH who have had grief with this.
There is no issues with numberplates landing members in hot water, unless those members are blatantly being planks and admitting to whistling down the M40 at 200mph. This could be seen as admission, and by the Police collaborating with CCTV, you can do the maths.
However a sunday juant, whereupon members are enjoying their cars, legally (in respect to common sense I guess), and not dropping themselves in it, then numberplates are not an issue.
It should be noted however, events like VMax (i.e track days), it is considered very bad form NOT to do so. In public places, you could say that if a member really didn't want his plate shown, then why not?
If you wish to do so, fine, however it is more the onus of the person who wants plates ommited to ask for this to be done.
The police have some powerful means to ask for information and figure things out - so don't think hiding behind PH will help if they really want someones details...
I hope that helps.
Neil
Edited by Neil_Bolton on Wednesday 4th April 12:56
Isn't the concern more about the risk of the car being ringed than the owner prosecuted for some misbehaviour? It's recommended to remove/cover your number plate at trackdays if you have any concerns about warranty/insurance..
As has already been said your number plate's in view on the road anyway. Also many of the major car dealers freely publish the plate no's of used cars they have for sale. If there were a significant risk I would guess they wouldn't.
As has already been said your number plate's in view on the road anyway. Also many of the major car dealers freely publish the plate no's of used cars they have for sale. If there were a significant risk I would guess they wouldn't.
On this (re: Sunday's run) occasion, the safety camera partnership in Powys have a video that would contain every vehicle's registration that past them on the A470 northbound.
There is a case ongoing in Humberside whereupon, the local camera safety partnership have obtained website posts that have been passed to the CPS who retrospectively has submitted the evidence in the prosecutions bundle. There is ambiguities that exist in that the partnerships manager is a civilian who admits to having gained the information gained from the website to further obtain information from the police computer. A lesson learned from this case so far is to carefully select what information you divulge in your member profile.
www.pepipoo.com
There is a case ongoing in Humberside whereupon, the local camera safety partnership have obtained website posts that have been passed to the CPS who retrospectively has submitted the evidence in the prosecutions bundle. There is ambiguities that exist in that the partnerships manager is a civilian who admits to having gained the information gained from the website to further obtain information from the police computer. A lesson learned from this case so far is to carefully select what information you divulge in your member profile.
www.pepipoo.com
I've always blanked plates in my pics out of courtesy to others. However I don't care if mine is shown or not 
I think that even if the plate isn't readable, a picture of a car that's the same make, model, colour etc could be decent circumstantial evidence if the police really want to get you
I think that even if the plate isn't readable, a picture of a car that's the same make, model, colour etc could be decent circumstantial evidence if the police really want to get you
I never used to bother, but I tend to blank out the plates on the pics I post now and we lower the resolution on video to prevent plates being seen. I do this out of courtesy to the owners as some have expressed concern in the past and its easier to just blank them all than to remember who has an issue with it and who doesn't.
Just means you have to wait a bit longer to see the pics whilst I chuck them through photoshop
Just means you have to wait a bit longer to see the pics whilst I chuck them through photoshop
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