heater mod

heater mod

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dickymint

Original Poster:

26,499 posts

269 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Anybody tried blanking off the air intake grill to the heater matrix and fitting a flexi pipe from the exhaust manifold direct to the heater box? ie preheated air to the matrix.

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

273 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Sounds like a great idea - my 911 which has a similar system being air cooled pumps out masses of heat after about 30 secs from a cold start.

njhucker

377 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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So what happens when you want cold air?

dickymint

Original Poster:

26,499 posts

269 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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open the window! serious about this mod and will fit a closeable baffle to turn off in the warmer months.Have all material in work on soldering extract systems.

dickymint

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26,499 posts

269 months

Sunday 19th January 2003
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Drilled 50mm hole into heater matrix and blanked off exterior air supply grill in readiness to fit ducting (pinching it from work tommorrow) ran engine and initial results quite promising although a bit smelly! will also "borrow" digital thermometer to do full evaluation next weekend. Stay warm guys and goodnight.

dickymint

Original Poster:

26,499 posts

269 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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Nice and warm drive to work this morning
Borrowed digital thermometer for drive home and initial readings are:- 8c from cold rising to 22.5c after 10miles staying at this temp for rest of journey (17 miles in total)temperatures measured in airstream of window vents averaging an amazing 50c.
These readings are bound to improve when pipe fitted and directed at exhaust manifold.
I now need to fit said pipe and do a series of tests with and without mod to determine actual improvement.
Could even be a good 6 sigma project!
PS. i know im getting a bit fanatical about this issue
but the next stage will involve coiling some copper microbore tube around flexi pipe and plumbing this into water system making a pre matrix matrix!!

wedg1e

26,901 posts

276 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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Am I missing something here, or are you not running the risk of drawing all manner of nasty fumes into the cabin?

Ian

gf350

805 posts

277 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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wedg1e said: Am I missing something here, or are you not running the risk of drawing all manner of nasty fumes into the cabin?

Ian



Could try routing it through some sort of filter where you cut the hole in the fan in take. Not sure this would help too much with CO though if the manifolds leak!

dickymint

Original Poster:

26,499 posts

269 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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Yep! The filtration issue comes last but i need to prove the mod first. i smoke 20 a day anyway
but as yer concerned about my welfare ill borrow the carbon monoxide tester tommorrow!
Cheers Ian.
Spose you got a nice warm Wedge?

gf350

805 posts

277 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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Spose you got a nice warm Wedge?


Nope, I bet mine is colder than yours as I have stripped it down ready for the respray.
No doors or roof lets the draughts in a bit and only the cold bare fibre glass floor to sit on.
Hope to get it back together soon when I have saved up enough cash for the painting!
Gareth.


>> Edited by gf350 on Monday 20th January 18:41

dickymint

Original Poster:

26,499 posts

269 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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Gareth,
just checked out your piccys nice engine bay.
reminds me that i ought to be concerntrating on the basics like rad hoses etc. Gonna get me some of those nice coloured ones too. Must back flush the heater matrix while im at it (which is probably the root of my problem) Cant help going off on the old lateral thinking route though!

gf350

805 posts

277 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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dickymint said: Gareth,
just checked out your piccys nice engine bay.
reminds me that i ought to be concerntrating on the basics like rad hoses etc. Gonna get me some of those nice coloured ones too. Must back flush the heater matrix while im at it (which is probably the root of my problem) Cant help going off on the old lateral thinking route though!


I just spent last weekend covering the remaining black hoses with the silver sleeving stuff, how sad is this getting. Sometimes I can't help thinking I have better things that I could be doing to the car, but this soon passes and its back to the cleaning engine bits!
The hoses are from Tim a ACT www.actproducts.co.uk/
But beware its a slippery slope! I simply must have those magnicor leads and stainless manifolds now, even though the car has no doors on it!
Gareth.
PS. If you find your self falling out of the car door after each trip and you can't stand up again for a few minutes, this may be because there is some carbon monoxide getting in to the cabin. I know this because a capri I once owned had this problem.



>> Edited by gf350 on Monday 20th January 19:48

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

273 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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Wouldn't it be safer to run the pipes so they draw fresh air from the front of the car and this then gets heated by the exhaust manifold in some kind of heat exchanger?

I am sure the under bonnet heat alone would make some difference.

Danny

dickymint

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26,499 posts

269 months

Monday 20th January 2003
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danny hoffman said:

I am sure the under bonnet heat alone would make some difference.

Danny


Your right Danny it does as my figures have proved (sort off)thats the state of play so far ie. under bonnet heat as in not direct off manifold. Next stage to make heat exchanger by coiling smaller pipe fed via cooling system around air intake pipe.

wedg1e

26,901 posts

276 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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My car has the recirculating-only heater so yes, it does warm up faster than my old Tasmin did. Then again, the testicles on a polar bear are warmer than that car was...
I get some fume ingress into the cabin, I think some of it may be through the hole by which the speedo cable and bonnet release enter/ exit, as there's nothing there but some clag (technical term) that doesn't stick to anything anyway.

Ian