starter motor

starter motor

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petercam

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273 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th November 2002
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Anyone got the part number for a starter motor for a 350i Series 1 (1984). I need a replacement that is smaller, as the one that I have fitted is from a Range Rover and fouls on the exhaust manifold (so I've been told)

paul dacosta

22 posts

274 months

Wednesday 13th November 2002
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i believe its a tvr special only!

19560

12,837 posts

269 months

Wednesday 13th November 2002
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Where are you up to with this? If you've fitted the new one but have to be told that it snags on the manifold are either of the engine or the manifold(s) out of the car? You said that you had the car on the road on 22nd July so presumably you had a working starter motor then. Does the body of the new starter motor differ from the old one? Which part number would you like TVR, Lucas(if it is L)? It's likely to be Rover Vitesse, in which case Rimmer brothers are likely to be your best bet. Which part of the old motor failed - windings, brushes, casting, gear? They can usually be rebuilt.

shawn ford

102 posts

282 months

Wednesday 13th November 2002
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I had a starter motor go bad in my 450 in August. I could not find a new one because it is a shorter high torque model that could be TVR specific.

I went ahead and pulled the selonoid out and then the starter motor. It is a tight job with the manifold, but can be done with patience. Since I couldn't find a new one, a had it rebuilt. And, while I was in there, replaced the selonoid with a new one. Rebuilt motor cost $90, selonoid $72.

With the exhaust manifold so close to the starter, I can see why life expectancy for these items are short lived due to high heat. Have certainly considered fabricating some sort of heat shield for this item, to extend its life.

Good Luck

Shawn
450 SE

petercam

Original Poster:

273 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th November 2002
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19560 said: Where are you up to with this?

The starter motor is the wrong one fitted by a previous owner. When I had the car in at V8 sports & classics for clutch replacement, the engine was out and the manifolds removed. When Noel was refitting them he had trouble getting the manifold to fit because of the starter motor. He had to loosen the starter to get the manifold back on, and the starter wouldnt fully tighten afterwards. Therefore there is a danger of stripping teeth in the motor or flywheel.
It does work, but I should get the correct sized one before something more catastrophic happens. Hence the reason I need to know a part number.

shpub

8,507 posts

283 months

Friday 15th November 2002
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The problem is that only the smaller version will fit and this has the same Rover part number as the bigger one that doesn't fit. So go to you your rover dealer or Rimmers and you have about a 1 in 8 chance of getting the right one.

Most of the independents etc get the original reconditioned because that is the cheaper way forward. The hi torque starters can be around £350 to buy new and are hard to get second hand.

If you have a bigger version then I would get a smaller one as this is less likley to cook in the heat. Tower View might have one in their Alladin's cave.

Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk

ssc1

456 posts

272 months

Sunday 17th November 2002
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try bosch 1744 supplied by land rover ,as i have just had a new starter fitted to my chimaera and this fits just great and it looked just the same as the old one,works well too.

19560

12,837 posts

269 months

Monday 18th November 2002
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I've had a chance to look under my car now and the starter motor looks exactly like the Lucas 9M90 fitted to the Rover Vitesse. It measueres about 6.25" x 2.825" excluding solenoid. The label says Lucas but the numbers are hard to read; I think that they are 2680ID and AB6N26D.

If you have the 3M100PE Range Rover starter motor it shouldn't be too bad but the M45 Range Rover starter motor looks a lot longer.

If you are going to buy the Bosch one be carfull - remember that the Chimp exhaust is completely different because it sweeps forward.

Which manifolds do you have? Are they the original cast iron type? Mine are the 400/450 ones from TVR (higher lifting cam and rechipped.) It works well and there is a large clearance around the starter motor.

I find that by far the biggest problem is the manifold clearance between the housing for the clutch slave cylinder and the chassis.

I would have thought that a good auto electrical store in Scotland should be able to source one - other than that try Rimmer Brothers or post here again. Good luck.

petercam

Original Poster:

273 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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thanks for the replies guys. I'll probably try an electrical autoshop first and see if I can get an exchange. That sounds the cheaper option, as £350 for a starter might end me up in the divorce courts