Grippy Tyres needed for a wedge

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OK.

So - Bridgestone S02's are no longer available.

Has anyone any idea of a good grippy (wet & dry) tyre
that comes in 225/ 50 zr 15.

The candidates seem to be :

Bridgestone S03.
Toyo Prozes
Yokahamas (MR2 fitment and only vr rated .. so no good)
Pirelli PZero

I'm not worried about price - around 500 quid for 4 is fine.

Your comments appreciated.

[jmorgan]

Griff asking Wedges eh.....
SO3 at the moment. Very good and I think better in the wet than SO2, my opinion of course. In the dry, sh!t to a blanket sticky. My opinion again.
Just had 2 done for 100 each plus vat and balancing etc

>> Edited by jmorgan on Friday 18th October 11:44

[andymadmak]

Toyo Proxes T1 are excellent, but don't last very long.
I've tried Fulda Carat Extremo and they were great in the wet, lasted long time and were nice riding. Ultimate grip was down on the Toyos though
Currently using Goodyear Eagle F1 all round and I must say they are great. Great in the wet, nice handling feel, last long time, cheaper than Toyos and Bridgestones too.

Andy 400se

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Yes - I've sold the Griff 500 and I'm looking into
buying another Wedge.

The one I looked at last weekend was running dunlop D8000's - which were designed for much heavier cars.

I was getting wheel spin in 3rd in the dry.. partly
down to crap tyres and partly down to 4.6 ltrs of
TVR's finest muscle...

Thanks for the advice - sounds like the S03's are a good alternative.

[19560]

Coming back to wedge? This seems to be an ever increasing trend. As for the tyres I think that Yoko A048Rs are best at present but note that they are a road legal track tyreso expect an extremely short (tyre) life.
I like the SO2PPs a lot and some are still available if you look hard. The SO2s were not liked following the SO1s and it wasn't untill Bridgestone launched the Pole Position range that they became loved.
The new Goodyear F1 GSD3 is doing well in tyre tests ( ahead of the SO3 in Evo ).
The Pirelli P-Zero Assimetrico has a good reputation but you do wonder why it is not used more often.
The factory fit Toyos but as shpub says nobody seems to sprint with them.
Try the Yokohama A008P, they do a 225/50ZR15.

[shpub]

I wouldn't recommend the Aoo8 or Ao48 because they are great in the dry but lethel in the wet. They are road legal competition tyres and in some case their life is measured in 100s of miles. Expensive. Excellent dry grip but pretty short life and bad wet weather/slippy handling. Great for tracks but not ideal for general road use.

Bridgestones do seem to be the forte. S02s if you want to be traditional or S03 if you want leading technology.

The 520 uses S02s. I bought a stack cheap just when the s03 came out. The Griff is about to go to s03.

[jmorgan]

I initially had Yokohama A022 (I think they were numbered) and they were very hairy in the wet, slightest blip on the throtle in the wet and the back end went. Bought them to pass the MOT as they were available there and then and I was in too much of a rush after buying the 400 to drive it.
Mind you, they were bought from a firm that was a bit dodgy (found out after).
Wouldn't be surprised that they had been on the shelf for a few years and a "Woo Whoo, we got rid of them" went up when I bought them.

[19560]

The A008P ( not the A008R ) is marketed as a road tyre - it is not a tyre from the Yokohama Motorsport leaflet. Tyres which come top of the dry tests struggle in the wet tests and vica-versa. I use SO2PPs as well because I think that they are a good compromise.
Since Steve's mentioned the 520, what tyre sizes and rim widths are on that (for sprints) at the moment?

[shpub]

19560 said: The A008P ( not the A008R ) is marketed as a road tyre - it is not a tyre from the Yokohama Motorsport leaflet. Tyres which come top of the dry tests struggle in the wet tests and vica-versa. I use SO2PPs as well because I think that they are a good compromise.
Since Steve's mentioned the 520, what tyre sizes and rim widths are on that (for sprints) at the moment?

16 inch by 9J Tuscan racer split rim OZ.
225/45ZR16 front and 245/45ZR16 rears. So2PPs.
I have to use standard road tyres to comply with the regs for my class.

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Thanks Guys - it sounds like a choice between
Bridgestone S03's, Toyo S1's and the Goodyear F1's.

The car is a 'full house' 4.6 and is a bit of a
monster so - I think I need as much wet & dry grip
as possible. I think this model in question originally had 225 50 15'5 up front and 245/45 15's
att the rear but I don't think 245's are available
anymore.

[19560]

Sounds like a nice car. Toyo don't make a Z rating in those tyre sizes (see complaints from Griffith owners). I don't think that anybody makes the 245 size for 15". Steve's set up is interesting - same diameter at the front, 3% increase at the rear, but its on 16s and he may have had to modify clearances and the suspension for the 9" rims, 8" should be OK for most people.

The wet and dry grip combination is very difficult. Goodyear seem to have the edge in the wet and Brigestone in the dry. If you get the F1 then make sure that its the F1 GS-D3 and not the D2. I think that you'll have to fit 225s all round for 15", which is probably better for the winter anyway. When you think about the cost of tyres and how long they last a set of 16" rims for the summer is very tempting.

[shpub]

Also the suspension was lowered around 3.5 inches....

[jvaughan]

[quote but its on 16s and he may have had to modify clearances and the suspension for the 9" rims, 8" should be OK for most people.

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You can fit 16's to a standard wedge, but if you run 245's on the rear, you may rub the inner wheel arches when the suspension bottoms ( or upgrade the suspension to bone breaking rock hard! )

as for the fronts... They too will fit with minimal worry, i run 15"'s on teh front because the 16's started to touch the inner wings on full lock, and thise fuel pipes are really close.

Incidently, I have ex-tuscan 9x16's (and I have checked with my insurance company, they donot mind the fact I have modified wheels and tyres)

[shpub]

They will fit some standard wedges but not all. 350i/280i is marginal and depends on how flared the arches are. The SE cars are usually but not always OK.
The Tuscan wheels/tyres can also rub on the fuel tanks and rear tie rod bar.

Try before you buy...