Firefox SEAC

Firefox SEAC

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dickymint

24,804 posts

261 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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Woh Woh Woh hang on a mo JJ i thought this thread was going well. All constructive stuff - and i've read it and re-read it. No need for the attitude dude.
PS and i'm a believer.

redwedge5

583 posts

264 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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Hi Firefox

Don't be getting all fed up . Remember your car is probably the most talked about wedge on the forum . It is still an interesting post . Part of the fun of owning these cars is knowing a bit about their history . There is still a bit of a mystery to your car and getting the answers can still be fun.

I think there are alot of people who would like to hear more.

19560

12,722 posts

261 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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dickymint said:
Woh Woh Woh hang on a mo JJ i thought this thread was going well. All constructive stuff - and i've read it and re-read it. No need for the attitude dude.
PS and i'm a believer.


Yep, also read dickymint's previous post and 2sheds post. IMHO NCK engine no.10 for Firefox's car seems to be correct for a SEAC registered Aug 86. Richard or Mervyn?

Still wondering about the windscreen aperture business though. I have seen laminated screens cut down for specials but then the hood would need to be modified. I still think that this maybe the key to the bodywork mystery.

wedg1e

26,818 posts

268 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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firefox1712 said:
Tell me where the number is on the engine.


firefox


On my engine, the NCK number is where the 'original' number would have been, ie on the flat area of the top face of the engine block, adjacent to the dipstick.
Now I thought, any fool could do that, but when I had the engine stripped it's also stamped into the front face of the block, behind the timing cover. Alas you'd need to strip the engine to see it...

chunder

741 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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Firefox,
Chill out mate - don't know who the Mike is you refer to but I hope I haven't offended you.
You started this post in a search for more info - just thought the engine would be a good start as if NCK10 was the original fitted and you can prove it's a 4.2 then at least you know it's a 420 something.
I've now learnt about the ARE engines so the post wasn't a waste of time and shouldn't be pulled down.



stevehall

235 posts

286 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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cuneus said:
I think Bob has hit on a good

All those with NCK engine no's post away with year/model/number


I have a 420SE with engine number NCK 055, registered 10-02-1988. Legit as far as I know as I have owned it since September 1993 - bought with only 17k on the clock.

Hope that helps.

Steve

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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OK chaps -

Allright already! I've had my little rant - please continue. (I've edited the earlier message)

firefox

>> Edited by firefox1712 on Tuesday 28th September 11:21

NHyde

1,427 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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..........OK heres the curve ball !!

For arguments sake , lets say the provenance on my car is unquestioned .

The data plate on the wing , the V5 and all the supporting docs I have show NO NCK number it is a 46***.and that was the original fit !!
I really did slip up this year as the engine was out at Peninsula for a new clutch , I should have got them to look

boltontvr

262 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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The engine number is also stamped on my air flow meter.

firefox1712

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1,772 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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firefox engine number of NCK 010 on VIN plate and V5 coincide. The AFM as far as I can see is standard and not Jaguar ('coz I've got one of those too and it don't look the same!).

I did have a look the other day for the number on the engine but could not see it. I'm sure I've seen it before, but I can't remember where. Sorry chaps.

Will try to 'phone the bank (CIBC) in next few days to see if they have any records - have emailed them in the past but had no reply. Will also try again to contact previous owners.

TVR Power responded to an email from me some months ago prior to BBWF - the chap who replied said he had built all the NCK engines - but I have had no further information. Emailed them again the other day and waiting.

Chassis has what appears to be adjustable parallelogram rear suspension with driveshaft as upper link - front suspension shows proprietary lower wishbone unit (Ford Cortina/Sierra I believe - what is the upper wishbone supposed to be like? Presumably, if the car had been crashed the front suspension setup could have been changed?

Bodywork wise, the side skirts seem to be rather flimsy - is this the same for all cars?

firefox

wedg1e

26,818 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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When you say the skirts are flimsy, is that as in flexible fibreglass or loose on the bodyshell?
Most I've seen are fairly rigid, but if they've been off, it depends how they were reattached.
If they're floppy, it may be they were thinner to save weight.
If they don't seem to be attached very well, have a look underneath towards the front and see if there are two alloy brackets bracing the sills to the floor. Some do, some don't.

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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I noticed some time ago that the side skirts 'feel' flimsy, thin, sort of light. I just presumed they were all like that.

From what we have so far, the favourite would appear to be that it has been crashed and had the body replaced.

Anyone know anything about the body code I posted up in the first post on this thread?

wedg1e

26,818 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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firefox1712 said:

Anyone know anything about the body code I posted up in the first post on this thread?


Yup. It's the ICI paint code. Doesn't tell you anything else, I'm afraid.

dickymint

24,804 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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P422 is the paint type - 0917 refers to the ICI paint colour ICI don't do auto paint now so you need to find a cross reference.
These do it but nowadays you have to register....
www.ppg.com/nexaautocolor/gridauto/default.asp?GridLanguageId=English/1&BrandId=Nexa%20Autocolor/1&MarketId=Europe/1

NHyde

1,427 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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JJ , if I remember rightly , when looking at your car with Chris Schirle at BBWF , he commented that the sills were the bolt on 390 style , which may explain the flimsyness.

boltontvr

262 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th September 2004
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NHyde said:
JJ , if I remember rightly , when looking at your car with Chris Schirle at BBWF , he commented that the sills were the bolt on 390 style , which may explain the flimsyness.


Hey, just because you're leaving the country doesn't mean you can start taking the piss . My sills are solid.

firefox1712

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1,772 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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Thanks Neil -

Yes, the side skirts are a bolt on type in that they are separate from the bodywork.

I presume with other cars they are integral with the body?

Safe travels on your holiday.

firefox

rev-erend

21,459 posts

287 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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Yes on my SEAC - they are integral and not flimsy at all..

boltontvr

262 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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firefox1712 said:


I presume with other cars they are integral with the body?



The sills became integral with the 400SE shape, as did the rear bumber.

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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Interesting points.

Just looked back at your earlier post Neil - just shows TVRs vary as they go! Where does that mean your engine came from then? Isn't your reg number just a few digits away from mine - or is that Duncan (nacnud)?

We know that not all SEACs have the fully adjustable suspension. Is mine the only 'SEAC' with proprietary front units?

Whilst I understand that Chris Schirle described my car as a 'bitza' at BBWF, and indeed it is possible that the body was changed following accident damage, does he know about the possibility of any interim cars? Does he hold detailed records of all the SEACs manufactured? Any details of other cars?

firefox

firefox

>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 29th September 17:29