P&J or Autotrader - Experiences on selling?

[scz4]

Morning guys,

I am looking to advertise my Z4 for sale locally. P&J is very expensive, but has a local audience. What about Autotrader? Worth doing online only, does anyone actually buy the paper copy any more?

Let me know if you have sold a car via either method.

I have the car on Pistonheads and ebay at the moment, but everyone who emails is fron Englandshire and when they realise I am in Aberdeen are immediately put off (understandably so).

G

P.S. Maybe even try Scotads?

[Col 666]

I was looking at Z4's recently and spotted yours, I cant believe it hasnt sold its a stunning car.
I havent tried auto trader for a few years but I didnt have much luck with it, with the state of the market at the moment you might be better trying locally and price it well. I would keep it though! you dont fancy a cooper S do you??!

[Stang]

I have used the Autotrader but I got far to many who wanted to do "monies transfer" for my liking. At least with Scotads it's free. I have my one on PH and scotads.

[foz01]

P&J a waste of time ime, particularly for something as specialised as your selling!

Sad fact is the only stuff thats selling is the dirt cheap stuff, the supercharger would put of 95% of buyers from your car, could you not remove and sell std?

[scz4]

It is standard All the good bits have been removed, even has the original wheels back on.

[fergy]

I am trying to sell a Mini (turbo)...presently advertising on here, Auto trader, and 4 mini forums...and not having much success.

Couple of points I have learned:

1. Usual SCAM artists will be in touch...want copy of V5, pay by bankers draft etc.

2. Don't put price too low, everyone wants to offer loads less than what ever you advertise it at (some stupid low). Maybe worth keeping it slightly higher than minimum you'll accept and be prepared to be talked down.

Market is real slow...which means cars only shift when prices are low

[willtvr]

fergy said:

I am trying to sell a Mini (turbo)...presently advertising on here, Auto trader, and 4 mini forums...and not having much success.

Couple of points I have learned:

1. Usual SCAM artists will be in touch...want copy of V5, pay by bankers draft etc.

2. Don't put price too low, everyone wants to offer loads less than what ever you advertise it at (some stupid low). Maybe worth keeping it slightly higher than minimum you'll accept and be prepared to be talked down.

Market is real slow...which means cars only shift when prices are low

What's wrong with being paid by bank draft then?

[Kiltie]

willtvr said:

What's wrong with being paid by bank draft then?

They should be treated no differently to a cheque. It's a common misconception that they're equivalent to cash - clickage.

Cheers,

Eric

[willtvr]

Kiltie said:

willtvr said:

What's wrong with being paid by bank draft then?

They should be treated no differently to a cheque. It's a common misconception that they're equivalent to cash - clickage.

Cheers,

Eric

It is a cheque but drawn on the issuing bank so a call to the branch concerned quoting serial number etc will confirm all is well.

[Kiltie]

willtvr said:

It is a cheque but drawn on the issuing bank so a call to the branch concerned quoting serial number etc will confirm all is well.

OK then.

[fergy]

I was told they canm be reversed a very long time after clearing (worth confirming with bank) so I just steer clear of them.

- Chaps transfer is best.
- Electronic transfer good, but allow a few day for it to completely clear.
- cash...if they accompany you to bank to pay the ££ in.

[Kiltie]

fergy said:

I was told they can be reversed a very long time after clearing (worth confirming with bank) so I just steer clear of them.

- Chaps transfer is best.
- Electronic transfer good, but allow a few day for it to completely clear.
- cash...if they accompany you to bank to pay the ££ in.

Good advice. This one is a classic example.

As a matter of interest, why do you say ...

fergy said:

... if they accompany you to bank to pay the ££ in.

... regarding payment with cash?

Cheers,

Eric

Edited by Kiltie on Thursday 18th September 14:26

[haggishunter]

Kiltie said:

fergy said:

I was told they can be reversed a very long time after clearing (worth confirming with bank) so I just steer clear of them.

- Chaps transfer is best.
- Electronic transfer good, but allow a few day for it to completely clear.
- cash...if they accompany you to bank to pay the ££ in.

Good advice. This one is a classic example.

As a matter of interest, why do you say ...

fergy said:

... if they accompany you to bank to pay the ££ in.

... regarding payment with cash?

Cheers,

Eric

Edited by Kiltie on Thursday 18th September 14:26

To let them check its not funny money!

[willtvr]

fergy said:

I was told they canm be reversed a very long time after clearing (worth confirming with bank) so I just steer clear of them.

- Chaps transfer is best.
- Electronic transfer good, but allow a few day for it to completely clear.
- cash...if they accompany you to bank to pay the ££ in.

Cleared means just that, you can withdraw it,transfer it whatever. It can't be cleared by the issuer and then reversed when they change their mind. If that wasn't the case the bank could take money out of your account whenever. Always check with the issuing branch and ask if they issued it or not, if they did it will be good as cash.

[Kiltie]

willtvr said:

Cleared means just that, you can withdraw it,transfer it whatever. It can't be cleared by the issuer and then reversed when they change their mind. If that wasn't the case the bank could take money out of your account whenever. Always check with the issuing branch and ask if they issued it or not, if they did it will be good as cash.

While I don't doubt that you know best, did you read the contents of the two links ( link 1 & link 2) provided above?

Cheers,

Eric

Edited by Kiltie on Thursday 18th September 21:21

[willtvr]

Kiltie said:

willtvr said:

Cleared means just that, you can withdraw it,transfer it whatever. It can't be cleared by the issuer and then reversed when they change their mind. If that wasn't the case the bank could take money out of your account whenever. Always check with the issuing branch and ask if they issued it or not, if they did it will be good as cash.

While I don't doubt that you know best, did you read the contents of the two links ( link 1 & link 2) provided above?

Cheers,

Eric

Edited by Kiltie on Thursday 18th September 21:21

Certainly did, thats why you need to check with the issuing branch not just your local branch unless they are one and the same of course.

[BigAlinEmbra]

I know a guy that sells cars for a living up your way and he doesn't seem to have too many problems with AT.
Doesn't seem to have too many problems with folk coming up from England to look/buy either.

Let's face it, if someone is too stupid to read how many miles away the car is on AT, you probably don't want them taking your nice sportscar out for a drive anyway.

[willtvr]

BigAlinEmbra said:

I know a guy that sells cars for a living up your way and he doesn't seem to have too many problems with AT.
Doesn't seem to have too many problems with folk coming up from England to look/buy either.

Let's face it, if someone is too stupid to read how many miles away the car is on AT, you probably don't want them taking your nice sportscar out for a drive anyway.

Sold previous Tiv to Oxfordshire and bought last 2 south of the border. Admittedly BMW not quite so rare so probably more people would expect to source locally. Price, condition & history main deciding factors at end of day.

[Kiltie]

willtvr said:

Kiltie said:

... did you read the contents of the two links ...

Certainly did, thats why you need to check with the issuing branch not just your local branch unless they are one and the same of course.

Auto-Trader said:

Don’t release your vehicle until you have had confirmation from your own bank that the bank draft is genuine and has been paid by the bank issuing the bank draft. Ask your bank whether the draft has been 'given value' rather than 'cleared' as it seems there is a difference between drafts being cleared and funds being in the account.

See, one of the scams I've heard about is that a BD is 'cloned' one or more times. The call centre of the issueing bank are called by each of the unfortunate sellers and "computer say yes". Then the BD's are presented and all seems well until some days later when the seller's world falls apart.

A more simple version is that the the BD actually has a number printed on it for the seller to call for verification. You can guess the rest. This seems like it would only catch out someone, shall we say, lacking worldly experience ... but you'd be surprised.

Anyway, I'm bored now so you do what you thinks is best.

Cheers,

Eric

[willtvr]

[quote=Kiltie

Anyway, I'm bored now so you do what you thinks is best.

Cheers,

Eric
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Boring subject but it was scz4 who was thinking of doing something if he can sell his BMW. Guess AT Bank must know best!