Weird experience - South Deeside Road tonight
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I had a strange journey home tonight and seek some advice as to what to do about it.
I was in the Exige.
Still on Leggart Terrace in the 30 zone with about 200m to the NSL sign, a black Focus overtook me at considerable speed.
This worried me a bit. I decided to follow him and keep an eye on him. I was careful not to go too close - didn't want to appear to be goading him.
He proceeded to drive like a complete nob - crossing solid white lines and intentionally weaving.
Interesting though - a couple of times he was flicking his winkers to indicate right then left. I didn't twig what this was at the time but now realise. I believe he was trying to lure me off the main road for a race.
Approaching the Durris straight, he did this right / left indicating thing and then turned left as if to go up the hill toward Durris. He stopped though so I slowed down and stopped as well (nobody behind at this point).
Got a look at him and guess what? ... young loon maybe 17 or 18 years old.
When I got home, I was ready to call the BiB to report it (I have the reg) but I've since decided to leave it (genuine but complex decision and partially based on a telephone conversation with a friend with some experience in this area).
The thought of opening up the P&J tomorrow though and seeing something tragic involving a familiar car - sends shivers down my spine.
I thought about posting this in one of the general areas but decided to keep it local.
One of the reasons for this is the possibility that it might be someone on here. If it is please email me - I'm worried about you and other road users and we need to speak (in a civilised manner I must add).
So do you people reckon I've called it right or should I be doing more.
I could post the reg but I'll give it 24 hours.
Be careful out there folks.
Cheers,
Eric
I was in the Exige.
Still on Leggart Terrace in the 30 zone with about 200m to the NSL sign, a black Focus overtook me at considerable speed.
This worried me a bit. I decided to follow him and keep an eye on him. I was careful not to go too close - didn't want to appear to be goading him.
He proceeded to drive like a complete nob - crossing solid white lines and intentionally weaving.
Interesting though - a couple of times he was flicking his winkers to indicate right then left. I didn't twig what this was at the time but now realise. I believe he was trying to lure me off the main road for a race.
Approaching the Durris straight, he did this right / left indicating thing and then turned left as if to go up the hill toward Durris. He stopped though so I slowed down and stopped as well (nobody behind at this point).
Got a look at him and guess what? ... young loon maybe 17 or 18 years old.
When I got home, I was ready to call the BiB to report it (I have the reg) but I've since decided to leave it (genuine but complex decision and partially based on a telephone conversation with a friend with some experience in this area).
The thought of opening up the P&J tomorrow though and seeing something tragic involving a familiar car - sends shivers down my spine.
I thought about posting this in one of the general areas but decided to keep it local.
One of the reasons for this is the possibility that it might be someone on here. If it is please email me - I'm worried about you and other road users and we need to speak (in a civilised manner I must add).
So do you people reckon I've called it right or should I be doing more.
I could post the reg but I'll give it 24 hours.
Be careful out there folks.
Cheers,
Eric
I had a similar experience with a wee p***k in a black 318 BMW Compact driving back from Gleneagles about a month ago on the M9. He (and the car) were all chavved up and he was doing the same left then right indicator thing and then slowing down, letting me past, undertaking me etc.
Did he really think he was going to out-run me? Probably not. Did he tell his mates that I drive like a girl and that he blew me away? Probably. These guys are just w***ers who will hopefully leave the road one day soon hopefully without involving anyone else. I totally agree with you that these guys should be held to task and dealt with but it seldom happens until it's too late. I applaud your good citizenship in trying to maybe report this fool but even if you phoned the police with the reg number they may if you're lucky add it to their watch list but that's about it and even after that he will just have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (just like if they never had his number). It's best IMO to just let them get on with it and pray to God they don't kill some innocent motorist or pedestrian - the police, as per usual will do nothing cos their either at the side of the road with a toy gun collecting money from hardened criminals who do 35 in a 30 or they're down Subway stuffing their faces with the "Sub of the Day" special.
In fact I hope he is on Pistonheads, just like the wee schoolboy in his Mum's 318 Compact that he's covered in spoilers because she has no control over him which is why she let him do it and why he drives like a to^^er cos he wasn't brought up properly
Another rant over, sorry, had a stressful day at work
Did he really think he was going to out-run me? Probably not. Did he tell his mates that I drive like a girl and that he blew me away? Probably. These guys are just w***ers who will hopefully leave the road one day soon hopefully without involving anyone else. I totally agree with you that these guys should be held to task and dealt with but it seldom happens until it's too late. I applaud your good citizenship in trying to maybe report this fool but even if you phoned the police with the reg number they may if you're lucky add it to their watch list but that's about it and even after that he will just have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (just like if they never had his number). It's best IMO to just let them get on with it and pray to God they don't kill some innocent motorist or pedestrian - the police, as per usual will do nothing cos their either at the side of the road with a toy gun collecting money from hardened criminals who do 35 in a 30 or they're down Subway stuffing their faces with the "Sub of the Day" special.
In fact I hope he is on Pistonheads, just like the wee schoolboy in his Mum's 318 Compact that he's covered in spoilers because she has no control over him which is why she let him do it and why he drives like a to^^er cos he wasn't brought up properly
Another rant over, sorry, had a stressful day at work
That is worrying Kiltie.
I am wondering if this should be reported however what would be done? I think that you'd like the lad to have a talking too rather than having either nothing done or being charged. I have to wonder that in this situation if the police should intervene with a road safety course or something.
I wouldn't like to be faced with this in either my car or on my motorbike...
I am wondering if this should be reported however what would be done? I think that you'd like the lad to have a talking too rather than having either nothing done or being charged. I have to wonder that in this situation if the police should intervene with a road safety course or something.
I wouldn't like to be faced with this in either my car or on my motorbike...
Stewart-83 said:
That is worrying Kiltie.
I am wondering if this should be reported however what would be done? I think that you'd like the lad to have a talking too rather than having either nothing done or being charged. I have to wonder that in this situation if the police should intervene with a road safety course or something.
I wouldn't like to be faced with this in either my car or on my motorbike...
You're rght Stewart, It's not pleasant when they're about two inches off your rear bumper and then you let them past and when you pull backout again they stomp on the brakes, hell bent on trying to kill you. Sorry for the OTT rant before but it's about the same as someone threatening you with a gun, they'll still kill you.I am wondering if this should be reported however what would be done? I think that you'd like the lad to have a talking too rather than having either nothing done or being charged. I have to wonder that in this situation if the police should intervene with a road safety course or something.
I wouldn't like to be faced with this in either my car or on my motorbike...
The indicator thing? Is that derived from one of the console games as an invitation to race?
Unfortunately driving a car like an Exige will at sometime or other attract the attention of the 'wannabes' in their Corsas or whatever.
Why is there never a Traffic Car around when you want one!
Unfortunately driving a car like an Exige will at sometime or other attract the attention of the 'wannabes' in their Corsas or whatever.
Why is there never a Traffic Car around when you want one!
I've had a couple of experiences of similar stuff, i.e. i've either been genuinely worried about either my own or someone else's safety.
I have always called the police.
I have got to say if you explain it appropriately, as in he was wandering over the road, speeding, undertaking dangerously etc and you are concerned about them causing a serious accident, then you can be sure the police will pay them a visit and give him a talking to.
Why should you?
Well it sounds like he's habitually driving like an idiot and is probably pushing his luck, unfortunately 20 years in the Fire service has proven to me that it's an innocent passer by who gets wiped out because of idiots like this.
Finally, if you are concerned, you don't need to give your name but even if you do the police won't tell them where the complaint came from.
As you said you really really don't want to open a paper to read he's been involved in a serious accident.
Hope this helps, Davy.
I have always called the police.
I have got to say if you explain it appropriately, as in he was wandering over the road, speeding, undertaking dangerously etc and you are concerned about them causing a serious accident, then you can be sure the police will pay them a visit and give him a talking to.
Why should you?
Well it sounds like he's habitually driving like an idiot and is probably pushing his luck, unfortunately 20 years in the Fire service has proven to me that it's an innocent passer by who gets wiped out because of idiots like this.
Finally, if you are concerned, you don't need to give your name but even if you do the police won't tell them where the complaint came from.
As you said you really really don't want to open a paper to read he's been involved in a serious accident.
Hope this helps, Davy.
Can I ask, when he overtook you, did he continue to drive at a high speed & when you were following him were you keeping up with him? Reason I ask is because if you were doing a high speed as well then this young fellow may well have thought you were "playing" with him along with him "playing" with you hence the flash of indicators in both directions to acknowledge you and say cheerio as he turned off.
Easty-5 said:
Can I ask, when he overtook you, did he continue to drive at a high speed & when you were following him were you keeping up with him? Reason I ask is because if you were doing a high speed as well then this young fellow may well have thought you were "playing" with him along with him "playing" with you hence the flash of indicators in both directions to acknowledge you and say cheerio as he turned off.
Good question - and not clear from my first post.He (we) quickly caught up with a train of traffic doing 55ish. The slow traffic seemed to disappear at the Culter bridge. Prior to this he'd had one attempt to overtake two (possibly three) but abandoned due to oncoming. His eagerness at this point was particularly alarming.
Cheers,
Eric
Eric
I am sure I have told you over a beer before, but Mrs T and I have reported dangerous driving a couple of times in the past and on both occasions the police came to the house, took a statement and said they would have a word with the car owner.
I can't confirm they actually did this but they seemed genuine.
Murray
I am sure I have told you over a beer before, but Mrs T and I have reported dangerous driving a couple of times in the past and on both occasions the police came to the house, took a statement and said they would have a word with the car owner.
I can't confirm they actually did this but they seemed genuine.
Murray
Eric,
Oddly enough I had a very similar experience on the same stretch of road only a day earlier than you.
It was around 1830hrs I was in my S4 and running late for viewing a house (1830hrs) up in the Durris Estate with my girlfriend. A hundred yards or so after the Old Mill in I noticed a car in the distance behind me but thought nothing of it. I was making fairly good progress (but not exceeding the speed limit, just not having to slow down for other road users) as the road was clear so was very surprised when a dark coloured Focus arrived, at speed, behind me. At first I thought it was the BiB and they had been tracking me for a while and felt my average speed was unacceptable. However, the Focus flashed its headlights twice and then proceeded to overtake on a very twisty section lined with trees which, thankfully, was clear. There was no room for error had there been some oncoming vehicle and I've seen how unforgiving the trees lining that road are in the past! Anyway, the Focus displayed similar traits to those you describe (weaving, slowing down to allow me to catch up) but not the indicator thing. The car sped up along the park Quarry straight and then made a couple of hard brakes seeing if i would join in. Unfortunately for the driver i was turning up the Durris Hill road and therefore not 'game'.
Other than the forest overtake there was nothing I felt was worth calling the police over, especially as I didn't think to get the number plate of the offended. In addition, I was still being berated by my girlfriend for running so late from the office...
so wasn't really in the correct frame of mind.
Looking back, and assuming we are talking about the same car, it seems to me that this could be a new driver who thinks it's acceptable to entice others into a race. I know there is a culture for racing amongst some of the youngsters in the Banchory area. I wonder if this chap is of the same ilk.
Eric, as per Dave's comments above, I would too support your call to the police if only to see if it can stop him killing himself; let alone others. There are too many 'invincible' youngsters these days who think that 100+mph on a B-road all the time is fine. I'm happy also to speak to the officers to pass on my comments if of any use.
Cheers
James
Oddly enough I had a very similar experience on the same stretch of road only a day earlier than you.
It was around 1830hrs I was in my S4 and running late for viewing a house (1830hrs) up in the Durris Estate with my girlfriend. A hundred yards or so after the Old Mill in I noticed a car in the distance behind me but thought nothing of it. I was making fairly good progress (but not exceeding the speed limit, just not having to slow down for other road users) as the road was clear so was very surprised when a dark coloured Focus arrived, at speed, behind me. At first I thought it was the BiB and they had been tracking me for a while and felt my average speed was unacceptable. However, the Focus flashed its headlights twice and then proceeded to overtake on a very twisty section lined with trees which, thankfully, was clear. There was no room for error had there been some oncoming vehicle and I've seen how unforgiving the trees lining that road are in the past! Anyway, the Focus displayed similar traits to those you describe (weaving, slowing down to allow me to catch up) but not the indicator thing. The car sped up along the park Quarry straight and then made a couple of hard brakes seeing if i would join in. Unfortunately for the driver i was turning up the Durris Hill road and therefore not 'game'.
Other than the forest overtake there was nothing I felt was worth calling the police over, especially as I didn't think to get the number plate of the offended. In addition, I was still being berated by my girlfriend for running so late from the office...
so wasn't really in the correct frame of mind.Looking back, and assuming we are talking about the same car, it seems to me that this could be a new driver who thinks it's acceptable to entice others into a race. I know there is a culture for racing amongst some of the youngsters in the Banchory area. I wonder if this chap is of the same ilk.
Eric, as per Dave's comments above, I would too support your call to the police if only to see if it can stop him killing himself; let alone others. There are too many 'invincible' youngsters these days who think that 100+mph on a B-road all the time is fine. I'm happy also to speak to the officers to pass on my comments if of any use.
Cheers
James
Corpulent Tosser said:
Eric
I am sure I have told you over a beer before, but Mrs T and I have reported dangerous driving a couple of times in the past and on both occasions the police came to the house, took a statement and said they would have a word with the car owner.
I can't confirm they actually did this but they seemed genuine.
Murray
And deal with the lad they will.I am sure I have told you over a beer before, but Mrs T and I have reported dangerous driving a couple of times in the past and on both occasions the police came to the house, took a statement and said they would have a word with the car owner.
I can't confirm they actually did this but they seemed genuine.
Murray
The only caveat is that unless you have been physically harmed, they will usually require you to have had a passenger in order to take a statement.
Having said this, I was involved in a road rage incident a couple months back with some utter scum in a van whereby the female passenger spat at me. She missed, but I was so incensed that I called the poilce and they caught the van south of Stonhaven. I was on my own at the time.
Also, having been on the receiving end of a stern talking to by BiB in a previous life, it certainly has the desired effect (we're all young and stupid at some point). Who knows it may just save the lad's life.
I would suggest therefore that you give the BiB a call and let them know. They will likely send traffpol out there to keep watch.
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