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Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Most of those cars you have mentioned are complete race cars, i.e. very low weight and have aerodynamic aids.A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
The focus probably weighs about a ton, maybe twice the weight of the above mentioned cars and has all the aerodynamic qualitys of a house brick! I agree with the sprint thing, the racing is pretty pointless when somebody has such a big advantage.
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
Col 666 said:
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
At least we agree on something! I am not a fan of these uber Cosworths, they are killing the racing for the SMRC, it happened in the 70s,80s and 90s with Special Saloons, Super Saloons and Libre classes, someone always has a bigger bank balance than someone else so they buy or build a bigger faster car, or rebody an F1 car with a saloon body. absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
who cares?A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
Col 666 said:
absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Most of those cars you have mentioned are complete race cars, i.e. very low weight and have aerodynamic aids.A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
The focus probably weighs about a ton, maybe twice the weight of the above mentioned cars and has all the aerodynamic qualitys of a house brick! I agree with the sprint thing, the racing is pretty pointless when somebody has such a big advantage.
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
stewie732 said:
Col 666 said:
absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Most of those cars you have mentioned are complete race cars, i.e. very low weight and have aerodynamic aids.A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
The focus probably weighs about a ton, maybe twice the weight of the above mentioned cars and has all the aerodynamic qualitys of a house brick! I agree with the sprint thing, the racing is pretty pointless when somebody has such a big advantage.
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
What is the merit in beating guys who struggle to scrape together enough for the race entry fee?
absolutely said:
stewie732 said:
Col 666 said:
absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Most of those cars you have mentioned are complete race cars, i.e. very low weight and have aerodynamic aids.A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
The focus probably weighs about a ton, maybe twice the weight of the above mentioned cars and has all the aerodynamic qualitys of a house brick! I agree with the sprint thing, the racing is pretty pointless when somebody has such a big advantage.
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
What is the merit in beating guys who struggle to scrape together enough for the race entry fee?
Co.
CO2000 said:
absolutely said:
stewie732 said:
Col 666 said:
absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Most of those cars you have mentioned are complete race cars, i.e. very low weight and have aerodynamic aids.A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
The focus probably weighs about a ton, maybe twice the weight of the above mentioned cars and has all the aerodynamic qualitys of a house brick! I agree with the sprint thing, the racing is pretty pointless when somebody has such a big advantage.
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
What is the merit in beating guys who struggle to scrape together enough for the race entry fee?
Co.
I would say Colin is a better racing driver than AG.
On another note, AG didn't get anywhere near a 50 today, his best was a 51.8, still alot of time to find on a 1.3 miles circuit! 1 lap doesn't matter anyway!!!!!
absolutely said:
stewie732 said:
Col 666 said:
absolutely said:
Does it really matter if he does 1 50 sec lap? Thats not really part of the sport, if he wants to hammer everyone else on lap times alone why doesn't he try sprinting?
A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Most of those cars you have mentioned are complete race cars, i.e. very low weight and have aerodynamic aids.A 50 sec lap was regularly beaten by the Radicals when they used to race, a well setup sportscar could easily beat 50 secs, with half the power. Takuma Sato did an unofficial 47 in F3 testing, Ron Cumming did a 47 sec demo run in his Footwork in about 93/94 and Nathan Kinch did a 43 in his Ferrari F1 car a few years ago?
AG was over 1 and a half secs off doing a 50 last race, its not easy finding that much round KH.
The key is consistency and I can't see it at the moment.
Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 23 April 15:03
The focus probably weighs about a ton, maybe twice the weight of the above mentioned cars and has all the aerodynamic qualitys of a house brick! I agree with the sprint thing, the racing is pretty pointless when somebody has such a big advantage.
He'll prob bin it or blow it up anyway
What is the merit in beating guys who struggle to scrape together enough for the race entry fee?
Why don't you ask him why he has come into 'small time club racing'? I dont know, but I think his car is great!
As for your third point of bullcrap: he won once today and got beat another time. Maybe he enjoys it, I dont know, but I would certainly imagine he does!
And just, L O L at only beating guys who struggle to afford the race entry fee. Are you referring to guys like the Honda, Superlegga et al?! I smell something....!
Edited by stewie732 on Sunday 27th April 23:53
stewie732 said:
And just, L O L at only beating guys who struggle to afford the race entry fee. Are you referring to guys like the Honda, Superlegga et al?! I smell something....!
You may smell something but I don't! I am talking about the guys who have been racing for over 5 years! The guy with the Honda, he raced a Escort and he gradually got quicker and did the SEAT coupras last year and came back with his new Honda last race, the guy with the super-leggra, I recognise the name from Le Mans entry list but it could be someone else. Edited by stewie732 on Sunday 27th April 23:53
I used to race in that race until finances got too bad! University was the reason, studying, hmmm aerodynamics of racing cars!
My Dad has raced on and off in that race for 25 years, don't tell me anything about the SMRC racing, EVER! Been there, done it, got the 25 annual t-shirts!
I know guys who had to retire from that race and racing all together because they didn't want to race against cars of that speed or budget and couldn't afford the entry fees!
absolutely said:
stewie732 said:
And just, L O L at only beating guys who struggle to afford the race entry fee. Are you referring to guys like the Honda, Superlegga et al?! I smell something....!
You may smell something but I don't! I am talking about the guys who have been racing for over 5 years! The guy with the Honda, he raced a Escort and he gradually got quicker and did the SEAT coupras last year and came back with his new Honda last race, the guy with the super-leggra, I recognise the name from Le Mans entry list but it could be someone else. Edited by stewie732 on Sunday 27th April 23:53
I used to race in that race until finances got too bad! University was the reason, studying, hmmm aerodynamics of racing cars!
My Dad has raced on and off in that race for 25 years, don't tell me anything about the SMRC racing, EVER! Been there, done it, got the 25 annual t-shirts!
I know guys who had to retire from that race and racing all together because they didn't want to race against cars of that speed or budget and couldn't afford the entry fees!
stop turning this into a willy waving comp. cos im prety sure you have no clue.
stewie732 said:
wrong wrong wrong. it's not 'it could be someone else'. that was the guys first race.
stop turning this into a willy waving comp. cos im prety sure you have no clue.
Ok, I didn't know that, I am sorry. I believe that the guy's name was Ian Donaldson? A certain Ian Donaldson, obviously a different one, has raced at Le Mans, an Aston Martin DB9 and a Porsche previously to that! Guess what, he is a Scot too!stop turning this into a willy waving comp. cos im prety sure you have no clue.
Are you calling me a liar?
absolutely said:
stewie732 said:
wrong wrong wrong. it's not 'it could be someone else'. that was the guys first race.
stop turning this into a willy waving comp. cos im prety sure you have no clue.
Ok, I didn't know that, I am sorry. I believe that the guy's name was Ian Donaldson? A certain Ian Donaldson, obviously a different one, has raced at Le Mans, an Aston Martin DB9 and a Porsche previously to that! Guess what, he is a Scot too!stop turning this into a willy waving comp. cos im prety sure you have no clue.
Are you calling me a liar?
P.S I couldn't give a s
t if your dad is the prime minister or the sultan of brunei or if he has raced. The fact of the matter is that you dont know me. You seem to know little about aero (just cos you have done some course on it still dosent make your claims true!) haah. Thats all I have to say on this nonsense.
Edited by stewie732 on Monday 28th April 00:37
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