I Hope they lock them up for a long time, but...
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/south_...
They will probably end up geting a metaphorical slapped wrist and "a good talking to!"
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They will probably end up geting a metaphorical slapped wrist and "a good talking to!"
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and then you get this!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_...
Come on! are these people really that stupid!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_...
Come on! are these people really that stupid!
mattius said:
and then you get this!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_...
Come on! are these people really that stupid!
Not sure I understand what you mean.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_...
Come on! are these people really that stupid!
110 on a public road? especially up those roads, no matter how good a driver you are that is not a safe speed to travel at, and by the means of safe, i mean for other road users, they can kill themselves if they want but speeds like that puts the lifes of others at risk!
That combined with the fact they are heading to a chav meeting where there is high police pressence all round to expect to get away with speeding is stupidity.
I gaurentee you 90% of those stopped were under 25, unfortunatly it seems to have become almost like a trophy to speed and get caught for it nowadays to young people. The problem is that most of these are incredibly inexperienced behind the wheel of what is usually too powerfull a car. Im not obssessed by the speed limits, and im young, i drive well within the limits of myself and the vehicles i drive and by judgement of the road conditions and traffic around me. Im not saying im a good driver, dont think anyone is to be honest, we are all on a constant learning curve.
However the original news story just goes to show that this kind of speed obssessed attitude doesnt just endanger yourself it endangers all those around you too. Imagine how the parents of the girl felt!!
That combined with the fact they are heading to a chav meeting where there is high police pressence all round to expect to get away with speeding is stupidity.
I gaurentee you 90% of those stopped were under 25, unfortunatly it seems to have become almost like a trophy to speed and get caught for it nowadays to young people. The problem is that most of these are incredibly inexperienced behind the wheel of what is usually too powerfull a car. Im not obssessed by the speed limits, and im young, i drive well within the limits of myself and the vehicles i drive and by judgement of the road conditions and traffic around me. Im not saying im a good driver, dont think anyone is to be honest, we are all on a constant learning curve.
However the original news story just goes to show that this kind of speed obssessed attitude doesnt just endanger yourself it endangers all those around you too. Imagine how the parents of the girl felt!!
Edited by mattius on Thursday 21st February 16:00
I don't see the link between the 2 cases.
The first one was an horrendous accident caused by aggressive and competitive driving amongst teenagers, one of whom had passed there test that week.
The second is a sensational story from the Police/BBC linked to an event. What is wrong with 1/4 mile competition? Sounds fun to me for an occasional laugh and a good opportunity to settle arguments in a controlled environment.
i cannot condone or excuse the driver caught at 110, i do not know the road and I was not there, but it does not need to be a dangerous speed. Many drivers achieve that speed and higher everyday on the roads without consequence.
There were members from this site at the event, some caught by the speedtraps. Ask them what the circumstances were.
have a look at Mattymouse33's profile. His car was there, is he a chav, in a chav car?
To catch that many motorists in such a short spell means the section of road must have ben fairly open and the police fairly hidden.
The first one was an horrendous accident caused by aggressive and competitive driving amongst teenagers, one of whom had passed there test that week.
The second is a sensational story from the Police/BBC linked to an event. What is wrong with 1/4 mile competition? Sounds fun to me for an occasional laugh and a good opportunity to settle arguments in a controlled environment.
i cannot condone or excuse the driver caught at 110, i do not know the road and I was not there, but it does not need to be a dangerous speed. Many drivers achieve that speed and higher everyday on the roads without consequence.
There were members from this site at the event, some caught by the speedtraps. Ask them what the circumstances were.
have a look at Mattymouse33's profile. His car was there, is he a chav, in a chav car?
To catch that many motorists in such a short spell means the section of road must have ben fairly open and the police fairly hidden.
you dont see the link? 110 mph is wreckless and agressive driving and wether it was by a teenager or not it could very easily cause and accident just like the above.
The fact that another 99 odd drivers got caught isnt sensationalist, its fact, for 100 drivers to get caught in one weekend it shows a complete lack of common sense and control from most of those drivers, im sure there were a few who werent much over but im also sure there will be some very high speeds in there.
The fact that most people get away with it without any trouble is a stupid excuse! it only takes one driver to loose control on the other side of the road and plough into you and kill you, does that make it ok? Like i said if people wanna kill themselves crack on, but at a weekend when the roads are the busiest to get caught at silly speeds is just stupid.
As for your point the police were probably hidden, quite right they were hidden, what do you expect them to sit in plain view so as everyone can slow down when they see them and then speed up when past and become just as dangerous again.
Chav event comment was extreme, didnt mean to offend anyone but a considerable number attending would fit into the chav/boyracer category.
The fact that another 99 odd drivers got caught isnt sensationalist, its fact, for 100 drivers to get caught in one weekend it shows a complete lack of common sense and control from most of those drivers, im sure there were a few who werent much over but im also sure there will be some very high speeds in there.
The fact that most people get away with it without any trouble is a stupid excuse! it only takes one driver to loose control on the other side of the road and plough into you and kill you, does that make it ok? Like i said if people wanna kill themselves crack on, but at a weekend when the roads are the busiest to get caught at silly speeds is just stupid.
As for your point the police were probably hidden, quite right they were hidden, what do you expect them to sit in plain view so as everyone can slow down when they see them and then speed up when past and become just as dangerous again.
Chav event comment was extreme, didnt mean to offend anyone but a considerable number attending would fit into the chav/boyracer category.
Edited by mattius on Thursday 21st February 17:09
Edited by mattius on Thursday 21st February 17:14
mattius said:
............you dont see the link? 110 mph is wreckless and agressive driving ...........
Can you tell me what facts you are in possession of that indicate that the driver who was caught at that speed was either wreckless or aggressive. I assume you witnessed the event to make such a bold statement.Or is it just your personal uninformed opinion that's based on a 2nd hand sensationalist BBC news article and you are in possession of none of the facts surrounding the circumstances that occurred when the driver was recorded travelling at 110mph (allegedly).
Diesel on the road, damp conditions, poor tyres for the conditions and taking the road conditions for granted, but you learn from your mistakes, my main mistake was trying to control it instead of letting it spin out. And no speed wasnt a factor if that was what you were getting at, 40mph crash in a 60 limit.
Im not an advocate of the speeding laws by any means, police should prosecute by the conditions and situation of the action, however then you have a problem of clarity between officers. I.e. on a dry day 3am with no one on the road 80-90 in a modern car would seem acceptable and shouldnt be prosecuted in my view, however the same would go if say it was a foggy morning with traffic on the road and very poor visibility i would expect someone to get prosecuted for 75.
Im not an advocate of the speeding laws by any means, police should prosecute by the conditions and situation of the action, however then you have a problem of clarity between officers. I.e. on a dry day 3am with no one on the road 80-90 in a modern car would seem acceptable and shouldnt be prosecuted in my view, however the same would go if say it was a foggy morning with traffic on the road and very poor visibility i would expect someone to get prosecuted for 75.
GetCarter said:
Blimey - Nasty crash on your blog Matt - hope you are recovering well. How did it happen?
Jeeez.. you're not kidding.Residential area. Sports car. 6 beer bottles survived. Car a write off.
Lets jump to conclusions shall we.
On the other hand; I can maybe see how a crash like that can affect your outlook, but don't be too quick to judge others when all you're getting is a biased report released by others who may have vested interests in such areas. I have seen many scamera vans from Central police parked where the only possible obvious vested interest is in revenue generation. Don't like that scamera partnership at all!
Edited by naetype on Thursday 21st February 17:51
naetype said:
GetCarter said:
Blimey - Nasty crash on your blog Matt - hope you are recovering well. How did it happen?
Jeeez.. your not kidding.Residential area. Sports car. 6 beer bottles survived. Car a write off.
Lets jump to conclusions shall we.
On the other hand; I can maybe see how a crash like that can affect your outlook, but don't be too quick to judge others when all you're getting is a biased report released by others who may have vested interests in such areas. I have seen many scamera vans from Central police parked where the only possible obvious vested interest is in revenue generation. Don't like that scamera partnership at all!
However whilst according to the police investigators there was nothing i could have done to avoid it, not doing excessive speed on a public road is one way to avoid accidents.
Jumping to conclusions i may be, but the three articles i have read have stated that the man was heading to the event in craile, at which it is reasonable to assume he wasnt doing so at 2am in the morning to get there before he could get in! at which case it would be reasonable to assume there is traffic on the road. Also given that the weather forecast (bellow) for that area was extremely cold and a risk of ice it would then be reasonable to assume it wasnt safe driving conditions for that speed so therefore it is wreckless!!
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Falkirk, Scotland: (Lat 55:59N Lon 3:48W 203m 660' ASL)
Last Update : Sat Feb 16 21:43:12 2008
Temperature :..... -0.4 °C (31.2 °F)
Wind Chill :..... -0.4 °C ( 31.2 °F)
Wind Speed :..... 0.0 mph 0.0 Kts Force: 0 B
Wind Direction :..... 270 degrees W
Pressure :...... Rising
Pressure Absolute :..... 1022.6 Hpa ( 30.19 inHg)
Pressure Relative :..... 1039.0 Hpa( 30.68 inHg)
Comfort Level :..... Uncomfortably Cold
Humidity (RH) :..... 94 %
Dew Point :..... -1.2 °C ( 29.7 °F)
Weather station calculated Cloud Base :...... 328' (100m)
Rainfall Last Hour :..... 0.00 inches 0.0 mm
Last 24 hrs Rainfall Total :...... 0.00 inches 0.0 mm
Rainfall Total :..... 21.67 inches 550.6 mm
Station Forcast :..... Mostly Clear
LIVE DATA ON SCOTWEATHER
- *** ICE HAZARD ***** ***** NEGATIVE WIND CHILL *****
Edited by mattius on Thursday 21st February 18:04
naetype said:
mattius said:
Id like to know where you get the idea it was in a residential area? i was actually on a quiet country road, .......
I believe I've made my point then 
edited because it could have been viewed in entirely the wrong context
Edited by naetype on Thursday 21st February 18:05
mattius said:
naetype said:
mattius said:
Id like to know where you get the idea it was in a residential area? i was actually on a quiet country road, .......
I believe I've made my point then edited because it could have been viewed in entirely the wrong context
Edited by naetype on Thursday 21st February 18:05
Forgot to add: you quote stats from Sat night. Was that when the driver was caught. Or don't you know?
Thread hijack over.
Edited by naetype on Thursday 21st February 18:31
i drove past the van on the A92 " lucky a person in 4x4 coming the other wany flashed me warning me" 
and if im honest 110 mph on that road was very unlikely to threaten anyone. it was a lovely day and a clear strech of road. although i think 110mph is a bit extreme on a public road especially when it was likely he was going to the 1/4 drag strip which u could pay £15 to go on and do. However i dont think these two incidents have anything to do with each other.
yes the 3 drivers were reckless racing each other, BUT one of the factors that is to blame is the uk driving test does not educated or test people enough.
how is it you can sit a test were you can scrape a kerb and be failed but you arent tested on motorways and very rarely on dual carriageways. its a farce i have seen some of the worse drivers in the world pass.
i believe that new drivers should be given at least one ride in a traffic police car with running commentry whislt traveling at speeds on dangerous roads in order to have a full uk license. failing that been at least showen videos of this. i speak as a 20 year old here by the way.
and if im honest 110 mph on that road was very unlikely to threaten anyone. it was a lovely day and a clear strech of road. although i think 110mph is a bit extreme on a public road especially when it was likely he was going to the 1/4 drag strip which u could pay £15 to go on and do. However i dont think these two incidents have anything to do with each other. yes the 3 drivers were reckless racing each other, BUT one of the factors that is to blame is the uk driving test does not educated or test people enough.
how is it you can sit a test were you can scrape a kerb and be failed but you arent tested on motorways and very rarely on dual carriageways. its a farce i have seen some of the worse drivers in the world pass.
i believe that new drivers should be given at least one ride in a traffic police car with running commentry whislt traveling at speeds on dangerous roads in order to have a full uk license. failing that been at least showen videos of this. i speak as a 20 year old here by the way.
mattius said:
110 on a public road? especially up those roads, no matter how good a driver you are that is not a safe speed to travel at, and by the means of safe, i mean for other road users, they can kill themselves if they want but speeds like that puts the lifes of others at risk!
That combined with the fact they are heading to a chav meeting where there is high police pressence all round to expect to get away with speeding is stupidity.
I gaurentee you 90% of those stopped were under 25, unfortunatly it seems to have become almost like a trophy to speed and get caught for it nowadays to young people. The problem is that most of these are incredibly inexperienced behind the wheel of what is usually too powerfull a car. Im not obssessed by the speed limits, and im young, i drive well within the limits of myself and the vehicles i drive and by judgement of the road conditions and traffic around me. Im not saying im a good driver, dont think anyone is to be honest, we are all on a constant learning curve.
However the original news story just goes to show that this kind of speed obssessed attitude doesnt just endanger yourself it endangers all those around you too. Imagine how the parents of the girl felt!!
p.s its no a chav its a ned ya fudThat combined with the fact they are heading to a chav meeting where there is high police pressence all round to expect to get away with speeding is stupidity.
I gaurentee you 90% of those stopped were under 25, unfortunatly it seems to have become almost like a trophy to speed and get caught for it nowadays to young people. The problem is that most of these are incredibly inexperienced behind the wheel of what is usually too powerfull a car. Im not obssessed by the speed limits, and im young, i drive well within the limits of myself and the vehicles i drive and by judgement of the road conditions and traffic around me. Im not saying im a good driver, dont think anyone is to be honest, we are all on a constant learning curve.
However the original news story just goes to show that this kind of speed obssessed attitude doesnt just endanger yourself it endangers all those around you too. Imagine how the parents of the girl felt!!
Edited by mattius on Thursday 21st February 16:00
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